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  • KingK7
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    • Jun 2002
    • 6372

    #1

    Epoch - Processing Paris Hilton sextape?

    http://www.sexmoviestoday.com/philton/

    Somehow I doubt Epoch knows about this.
  • Oracle Porn
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    • Oct 2002
    • 24433

    #2
    how do you know its epoch?


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    • Trax
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      • Aug 2001
      • 14486

      #3
      cuz thats the url:

      https://wnu.com/secure/fpost.cgi?co_...0Me%20In%20Now!&username=erthrsth&x_refer=&x_reseller=mp&x_sitec ode=smt&zip=52987



      that will cost him processing for sure
      if someone reports him its bye bye sexmoviestoday

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      • VeriSexy
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        #4
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        • KingK7
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          • Jun 2002
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          #5
          Originally posted by Oracle Porn
          how do you know its epoch?
          PAYCOM.NET *JJC will appear on your card holder statement.

          It goes to an Epoch signup page. Simple as that.
          Through:
          http://www.fatpaychecks.com/ps/fpost/fpost.cgi

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          • Oracle Porn
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            http://www.fatpaychecks.com are the owners


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            • KingK7
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              • Jun 2002
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              #7
              Funny thing is they cant claim some rogue affiliate did it either, as the page is hosted on the main site domain.

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              • kenny
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                • Mar 2002
                • 7245

                #8
                It is slightly different no TOS link below the user/password box.
                7

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                • KingK7
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                  • Jun 2002
                  • 6372

                  #9
                  It originates from this:
                  http://www.call-kelly.com/
                  http://www.call-kelly.com/paris/

                  Now thats a domain with some decent traffic...

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                  • kenny
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                    • Mar 2002
                    • 7245

                    #10
                    http://www.jessica.wildteensonline.com/index.html

                    That is the real one.
                    7

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                    • Epoch
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                      • Jan 2002
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                      #11
                      This issue has been dealt with..

                      Clay
                      EPOCH

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                      • Veterans Day
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                        • Jul 2003
                        • 8403

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Epoch
                        This issue has been dealt with..

                        Clay
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                        • xdcdave
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #13
                          and the declined transactions go to CCBill now as alternate.. I dont think they'd appreciate the chargebacks much either.

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                          • chowda
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                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9527

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Veterans Day
                            dude, wheres my database?
                            Someone finds you...
                            2007

                            PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                            •  Smokey The Bear 
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                              • Dec 2003
                              • 3880

                              #15
                              Originally posted by xdcdave
                              and the declined transactions go to CCBill now as alternate.. I dont think they'd appreciate the chargebacks much either.
                              ccbill Account Number 919412-0000

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                              • corvette
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                                • Oct 2001
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                                #16
                                this issue has been addressed on our end as well
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                                • Trax
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                                  • Aug 2001
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                                  #17
                                  so what does this mean?
                                  no processing for fatpaychecks no more???

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                                  • bigdog
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                                    • Jul 2001
                                    • 6964

                                    #18
                                    Where is TheMan to defend himself?

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                                    •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                      • 3880

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by corvett
                                      this issue has been addressed on our end as well
                                      Just out of curiosity , how do you deal with these companies. ?

                                      Is the money returned to the surfers ?

                                      Is the money forfeited to ccbill / epoch ?

                                      Do you inform visa / police ?

                                      Are the accounts closed / warned / ?

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                                      • JDog
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                                        • Feb 2003
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                                        #20
                                        Why is it that CCBIll came up then, and that the form wasn't active! I think their already turned off!

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                                        • Kick Ass Chat
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 


                                          Just out of curiosity , how do you deal with these companies. ?

                                          Is the money returned to the surfers ?

                                          Is the money forfeited to ccbill / epoch ?

                                          Do you inform visa / police ?

                                          Are the accounts closed / warned / ?

                                          Good questions
                                          [email protected]

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                                          • Dveron
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                                            • Dec 2002
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                                            #22
                                            Good response time by Epoch and CCbill.
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                                            • corvette
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                                              • Oct 2001
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                                              #23
                                              Smokey, we have different policies depending on the situation/circumstances?I am not going to get into them right now, but I can say that we have never had a clients funds forfeited to us?
                                              If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

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                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                • Mar 2003
                                                • 30307

                                                #24
                                                Basically that company died for Paris Hilton

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                                                •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                  • 3880

                                                  #25
                                                  Some others
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                                                  http://www.billybadboy.com/paris-video.html

                                                  http://processor.netmgt.com/paycom/paycom_paypage.php

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                                                  http://www.khamil.com/page2.htm

                                                  https://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/ccard.exe

                                                  ---------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                  http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

                                                  http://secure1.netbilling.com/cs/store.cgi

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                                                  LOL you gotta love this

                                                  http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/parissextape.asp

                                                  They are actually showing the tape for free . !!
                                                  Last edited by Eric; 01-19-2004, 07:45 AM.

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                                                  •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                    • Dec 2003
                                                    • 3880

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by corvett
                                                    Smokey, we have different policies depending on the situation/circumstances?I am not going to get into them right now, but I can say that we have never had a clients funds forfeited to us?
                                                    I understand you reluctance to share EXACT details , but , do you inform the police , fbi of these thefts ??

                                                    Its pretty clear theft if your offering something you dont actually have to sell.

                                                    In this particular case , if lets say a user signed up today for your ccbill processed site as mentioned above, will they get a refund ?? are they informed ?

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                                                    • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                      #27
                                                      Saw that last week Smokey but still it to funny!

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                                                      •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                        • 3880

                                                        #28
                                                        http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

                                                        http://www.amateur-flix.com/join.htm

                                                        Using ccbill to process supposed orders of the paris hilton tape thru mail

                                                        Using google adwords for the keywords Paris Hilton

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                                                        •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 3880

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by AlienQ
                                                          Saw that last week Smokey but still it to funny!
                                                          HEH it was funny because i wa slike hmm i have never seen this version of the tape before, then a few more seconds in im thinking . hmm gee that paris hilton looks like a man with a wig. heh

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                                                          • Techie Media
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                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                            • 3092

                                                            #30
                                                            Interresting thread.


                                                            sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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                                                            •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 3880

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Lightning
                                                              Interresting thread.
                                                              Your right about not getting the truth , but they also have to protect themselves.

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                                                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                #32
                                                                This how long term processors are targeted and in the long term honest business will loose out.

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                                                                •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                  • Dec 2003
                                                                  • 3880

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 
                                                                  http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

                                                                  http://www.amateur-flix.com/join.htm

                                                                  Using ccbill to process supposed orders of the paris hilton tape thru mail

                                                                  Using google adwords for the keywords Paris Hilton
                                                                  Bump for the ccbill employee to read.

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                                                                  • TheMan
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                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 734

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hello
                                                                    Ok I will explain myself to everyone..
                                                                    I just know what works and figured if I added the clips that we could find inside then we would NOT be scamming anyone.
                                                                    There is the cancel link in the members area and in the emails they get. We just figured with the 30 minutes free they have enough time to look at the members area and see if they are even happy with the rest of the stuff. As we all know there isnt enough paris stiff to keep a member recurring month after month. We do mention 500+ other full lenth movies as well.

                                                                    It's a way to expose the members area more and this was a test for a two days and not something we were ever gonna launch for webmasters to resell.

                                                                    in no way are we misleading the surfers... really
                                                                    Check it out...

                                                                    Anyways if the processors want me to remove it then I will no problem. I didnt see a problem with this. I figured the only problem I would have is maybe a call from a lawyer telling me to remove the paris and I would have.

                                                                    Dunno.. Was just something to test... feel free to say your says but I meant nothing bad.

                                                                    Thanks

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                                                                    • TheMan
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      ..

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                                                                      •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                        • Dec 2003
                                                                        • 3880

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by TheMan
                                                                        Hello
                                                                        Ok I will explain myself to everyone..
                                                                        I just know what works and figured if I added the clips that we could find inside then we would NOT be scamming anyone.
                                                                        There is the cancel link in the members area and in the emails they get. We just figured with the 30 minutes free they have enough time to look at the members area and see if they are even happy with the rest of the stuff. As we all know there isnt enough paris stiff to keep a member recurring month after month. We do mention 500+ other full lenth movies as well.

                                                                        It's a way to expose the members area more and this was a test for a two days and not something we were ever gonna launch for webmasters to resell.

                                                                        in no way are we misleading the surfers... really
                                                                        Check it out...

                                                                        Anyways if the processors want me to remove it then I will no problem. I didnt see a problem with this. I figured the only problem I would have is maybe a call from a lawyer telling me to remove the paris and I would have.

                                                                        Dunno.. Was just something to test... feel free to say your says but I meant nothing bad.

                                                                        Thanks
                                                                        I wasnt beefing at you in particular but , You cant sell something you dont own, or dont have the right to sell.

                                                                        Or else i could just open up a website and sell windows xp for $10 until microsoft told me not too .

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                                                                        • bigdog
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                                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                                          • 6964

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Smokey The Bear
                                                                          Some others

                                                                          http://naughtymagazines.com/scandals...p?cid=79a16s7u

                                                                          https://www.ctbilling.com/bill.php?j...asson=79a16s7u

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                                                                          http://www.billybadboy.com/paris-video.html

                                                                          http://processor.netmgt.com/paycom/paycom_paypage.php

                                                                          ----------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                          http://www.khamil.com/page2.htm

                                                                          https://secure.ibill.com/cgi-win/ccard/ccard.exe

                                                                          ---------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                          http://www.amateur-flix.com/phfakegoogle.asp

                                                                          http://secure1.netbilling.com/cs/store.cgi

                                                                          ------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                                                          LOL you gotta love this

                                                                          http://www.liquidgeneration.com/flix/parissextape.asp

                                                                          They are actually showing the tape for free . !!
                                                                          hey stop posting urls

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                                                                          • Trax
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                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                            • 14486

                                                                            #38
                                                                            only question left:
                                                                            do the processors namely ccbill and epoch have the balls to pull fatpaychecks or will they support it because of the other business with legit sites they have

                                                                            that could be very interesting

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                                                                            • TheMan
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                                                                              • Jan 2001
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 


                                                                              I wasnt beefing at you in particular but , You cant sell something you dont own, or dont have the right to sell.

                                                                              Or else i could just open up a website and sell windows xp for $10 until microsoft told me not too .

                                                                              I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

                                                                              Got good sales lol


                                                                              btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
                                                                              Programs or anything?

                                                                              thanks

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                                                                              •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                                • Dec 2003
                                                                                • 3880

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                only question left:
                                                                                do the processors namely ccbill and epoch have the balls to pull fatpaychecks or will they support it because of the other business with legit sites they have

                                                                                that could be very interesting
                                                                                They push some good numbers if i was ccbill i wouldnt drop them like a bad habit, i would merely explain if caught pushing the paris hilton video again they will be pulled.

                                                                                1 warning.

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                                                                                • gregtx
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                                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by TheMan



                                                                                  I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

                                                                                  Got good sales lol


                                                                                  btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
                                                                                  Programs or anything?

                                                                                  thanks

                                                                                  I hear he is just some gay dude who works at wendy's but likes to read gfy in his spare time
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                                                                                  •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                                    • Dec 2003
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMan



                                                                                    I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

                                                                                    Got good sales lol


                                                                                    btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
                                                                                    Programs or anything?

                                                                                    thanks
                                                                                    Like i said no personal beefs , just an opinion

                                                                                    Im pushing hilton traffic myself and have quite a few good ph keywords, but theres a line that you must not cross.

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                                                                                    • TheMan
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 


                                                                                      Like i said no personal beefs , just an opinion

                                                                                      Im pushing hilton traffic myself and have quite a few good ph keywords, but theres a line that you must not cross.
                                                                                      yea np
                                                                                      I understand.
                                                                                      Thanks

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                                                                                      •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by gregtx



                                                                                        I hear he is just some gay dude who works at wendy's but likes to read gfy in his spare time
                                                                                        Its funny you should mention that , because the other day i went thru the wendy's drive-thru and there was a deadpan lensman lookalike working the booth. And i said " Lensman ? " and he was like "wtf would you like fries with that." I wanted to grab a picture of him but i didnt have a camera handy. I kick myself for that now.

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                                                                                        • BradShaw
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I met kingk at wendys. He gave me such great "service" that I bought him a webtv for gay pride week.
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                                                                                          • Trax
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                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 14486

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            i can understand the man i have to admit

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                                                                                            •  Smokey The Bear 
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                                                                                              • 3880

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                              i can understand the man i have to admit
                                                                                              I think we all can After all its about the money.

                                                                                              But theres always a line.

                                                                                              Morally there is a big difference between selling child porn and a video you dont own.

                                                                                              But by the law you are stepping over the line in both regards.

                                                                                              The truecelebs site does it fairly legally.

                                                                                              They dont promise the tape they only promise "gossip" about the tape.

                                                                                              http://www.paris-hilton-video.cc/paris_hilton_video/

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                                                                                              • Trax
                                                                                                [----------------------]
                                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                                • 14486

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by  Smokey The Bear 


                                                                                                I think we all can After all its about the money.

                                                                                                But theres always a line.

                                                                                                Morally there is a big difference between selling child porn and a video you dont own.

                                                                                                But by the law you are stepping over the line in both regards.

                                                                                                The truecelebs site does it fairly legally.

                                                                                                They dont promise the tape they only promise "gossip" about the tape.

                                                                                                http://www.paris-hilton-video.cc/paris_hilton_video/

                                                                                                well
                                                                                                while talking about moral in adult business we could start the 100 TRAZILLIONED discussion about

                                                                                                dialers
                                                                                                crosssells
                                                                                                rebills at 50 bucks for no content sites and so on

                                                                                                you know what i mean

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                                                                                                • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Trax



                                                                                                  well
                                                                                                  while talking about moral in adult business we could start the 100 TRAZILLIONED discussion about

                                                                                                  dialers
                                                                                                  crosssells
                                                                                                  rebills at 50 bucks for no content sites and so on

                                                                                                  you know what i mean

                                                                                                  Yeah lets kick over that can of worms!
                                                                                                  Count me in!

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                                                                                                  • Troels
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by TheMan



                                                                                                    I hear ya... I just saw so many others doing it..

                                                                                                    Got good sales lol


                                                                                                    btw anyone who what KingK7 does?
                                                                                                    Programs or anything?

                                                                                                    thanks
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