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dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 04:26 PM

Check out this lil plane I built over the past few days... It's modeled after the f-22 raptor. Not too shabby for a foamy... I am really happy with the paint scheme...

<img src="http://bassboard.com/rap2.jpg">

<img src="http://bassboard.com/rap1.jpg">

Space Puppy · 01-17-2004, 04:27 PM

no wonder you were fired from maxcash you spent all your time building model planes

so is maxcashlive still running or what?

Manowar · 01-17-2004, 04:27 PM

nice!

got any videos of it in flight ?

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 04:32 PM

Fuck you spacepuppy... I wasn't fired. Got it?

Nope vid of it in flight yet... Should be maidening it tomorrow... If the weather holds.

Just_Dave · 01-17-2004, 04:33 PM

Jive · 01-17-2004, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Space Puppy
no wonder you were fired from maxcash you spent all your time building model planes

so is maxcashlive still running or what?

I think Maxcash fell apart ages ago.. it's all in the numbers
when you see there chat board is empty nad they shaned the fuck outta alot of webmasters including myself? no one in there right mind would wanted to piss there hits away for free and gain no ground with the failed Maxcash! he. they were the first ones to screw everyone around a few years ago.. I remember when they couldn't payout there webmaster's at Xmas time.. this is when they started going down hill not taking care of there webmasters
that facts were there back when they were paying out monthy..
why woyld you fuck webmasters around when it's xmas time?
you would make dam sure to pay everyone during the holidays the Xmas seasons in the air! and when it's mostly needed..
this is when the axe fell on them. "it looks good on them"
I curtainly think in my opinion they deserve what they got!
once a popular program and ends up another poor statistic doing a header on the pavement.. I'm sure they have other frontends to use? or open them selves some other junky program..

it all comes down to simply paying webmasters for sales stop the screw job then you could have risen once again and sit in the good ranks not the shaving ones.. all you had to do is be honest!

another one bites the dust.. oh well..boo hoo..

Jive · 01-17-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by Space Puppy
no wonder you were fired from maxcash you spent all your time building model planes

so is maxcashlive still running or what?

I don't think he would have left on his own if the money was flowing for him? perhaps they laid him off.. the crunch will come to alot of employees..there's no security in this biz an the numbers will be reduced..

it's facts were seeing and my opinion and many other webmasters too there's lots of sponsors introuble
and will fold soon.......

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 05:27 PM

You really shoulod learn to get the facts before you open your mouth. "If the money was flowing bs".... How do you know what I did and why? I was making a nice living working for MC and the $$$ was not an issue in my decision . Maybe if you stop to think about it first you might realize you're stupidity.

I will say it again. I was NOT laid off, was NOT fired, was not anything. It was my decision to leave. Plain and simple.

I am already starting to get tired of people assuming shit. Even though there are only a few.

As for the rest of your bullshit. It's just that, bullshit. You are the only one who actaully listens to yourself.

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 05:29 PM

And btw you say it's all in the numbers right? How do you know MaxCash fell apart? Did you see their numbers? No fucking way. So how can you then say they fell apart if at first you say it's all in the numbers?

You sir are a TRUE MORON!

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 05:30 PM

You are just some washed up cheat who thought he got one up on MC before realizing his check didnt come.

asuna · 01-17-2004, 05:37 PM

Ok this thread the wrong direction...

got any video of that plane flying?

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
Ok this thread the wrong direction...

got any video of that plane flying?

Tell me about it... What a moron these 2 are...

Anyways, now the weather service says another 5 inches of snow tomorrow... So I dunno when I am gunna be able to maiden it.. Hopefully soon... When I get vids ill post them.

asuna · 01-17-2004, 05:59 PM

who cares about a little snow?

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
who cares about a little snow?

Good point...

Chris E · 01-17-2004, 06:01 PM

Plane seems cool... how well does it fly?

frankfortuna · 01-17-2004, 06:03 PM

Can you recommend a durable RC "trainer"? I'd like to get a plane, but I fear I will destroy it within 5 minutes.

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
Can you recommend a durable RC "trainer"? I'd like to get a plane, but I fear I will destroy it within 5 minutes.

Go with a hobbyzone firebird commander... its real easy to fly and only around $100....

frankfortuna · 01-17-2004, 06:12 PM

Cool, I'll check it out. At that price I may even get a backup.

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by frankfortuna
Cool, I'll check it out. At that price I may even get a backup.

Coool! It comes with everything you need, tx, battery, and charger..

MrSpeed · 01-17-2004, 06:14 PM

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Can you recommend a durable RC "trainer"? I'd like to get a plane, but I fear I will destroy it within 5 minutes.

GWS Slow Stick. It pretty much the defacto standard trainer.

The firebirds are cool and easy to fly but you can not reuse the radio gear when you upgrade to your next plane.

The slow stick is easy to fly and the airframe is only $35. With radio gear your looking at a total of about $175-$200.

Some swear that he Zagi is great trainer, but I think it would be too fast.

dropped9 · 01-17-2004, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSpeed

GWS Slow Stick. It pretty much the defacto standard trainer.

The firebirds are cool and easy to fly but you can not reuse the radio gear when you upgrade to your next plane.

The slow stick is easy to fly and the airframe is only $35. With radio gear your looking at a total of about $175-$200.

Some swear that he Zagi is great trainer, but I think it would be too fast.

You do have that one too....

Shok · 01-17-2004, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
Can you recommend a durable RC "trainer"? I'd like to get a plane, but I fear I will destroy it within 5 minutes.

go to towerhobbies.com

get you a good 40 or 60 sized high wing ARF.

You can get everything you need including the radio, fuel, field support for around 350 to get you started.

Start with a good reliable high wing trainer and you will be hooked forever.

Jive · 01-17-2004, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Headless

Tell me about it... What a moron these 2 are...

Anyways, now the weather service says another 5 inches of snow tomorrow... So I dunno when I am gunna be able to maiden it.. Hopefully soon... When I get vids ill post them.

ranting and your upset because you got canned!..

stop talking how great Maxcash is all the time.. there a dead end..
stop the cheerleading.. your not with them anymore..
and you were a payed suckass.. now they used you up and discarded you. like they did there webmasters promoting them used them and fucked them all over.. so what do you expect from the bullshit program..you fuckin retard..

move on shit head..your worthless to them.

The Click · 01-17-2004, 06:58 PM

lol I build one of those before! I hope it's not your first RC place they are imposible to fly, I paid over $500 for mine I ended up selling it for parts the next day. Since then i am pretty tight on RC planes I bought something called the firehawk to learn on.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-17-2004, 07:01 PM

"who cares about a little snow? "

Hey thats what Nasa management said about the Space Shuttle Challenger when it went up in flames.

If the weather aint right and Engineering says its a no go...

IT'S A NO GO!

Mr Pheer · 01-17-2004, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrSpeed
Some swear that he Zagi is great trainer, but I think it would be too fast.

I fuckin love my Zagi. I even let pimpdawg fly it once.

But I agree, its too fast and not stable enough for a trainer. Only reason I can guess that someone would say use a Zagi for a trainer, is because they are almost impossible to destroy.

Shok · 01-17-2004, 07:06 PM

I'll let you learn on my turbine F-15

for a 5 grand deposit lol

asuna · 01-17-2004, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
"who cares about a little snow? "

Hey thats what Nasa management said about the Space Shuttle Challenger when it went up in flames.

If the weather aint right and Engineering says its a no go...

IT'S A NO GO!

This isn't Nasa, no one will die

digifan · 01-17-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
I'll let you learn on my turbine F-15

for a 5 grand deposit lol

Nice little toy

VirtuMike · 01-17-2004, 08:47 PM

As far as Maxcash goes, they have always been an excellent organization. I have been doing business with them since 1998 (that's six years, longer than most of you have been doing adult) and they are about as good as it gets.

The one time they had problems with the payouts were when they had some legal issues and had their assets frozen. I'll tell you they took a bullet so you could stay in business. When that happened, I and several of my friends sent them MORE traffic. As soon as they unfroze the accounts, they made up for all the problems. It turns out they didn't do anything wrong at all - they were doing exactly what everyone else actually in this industry is doing. They were victims of an overzealous prosecutor because they were the biggest.

These guys are the inventors of the per signup payout. Brave souls. Think before you bash.

lagwagon · 01-17-2004, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
I'll let you learn on my turbine F-15

for a 5 grand deposit lol

whoa that thing is fucking sweet. how fast?

Space Puppy · 01-17-2004, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jive
ranting and your upset because you got canned!..

stop talking how great Maxcash is all the time.. there a dead end..
stop the cheerleading.. your not with them anymore..
and you were a payed suckass.. now they used you up and discarded you. like they did there webmasters promoting them used them and fucked them all over.. so what do you expect from the bullshit program..you fuckin retard..

move on shit head..your worthless to them.

How easily you forget the past...

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Re: RJB Telecom, Inc.; Robert Botto
Legal Action for Defamation/ Cease and Desist Notice

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As I indicated, I have attached your statement in its entirety to this letter. Without going into all of the objectionable particulars of your statement, I would simply point out that you falsely accuse the Maximum Cash program as being fraudulent and that the owner of Maximum Cash, i.e., "RB" (Robert Botto) as being a "manipulator and a cheater" who is "scamming" participating webmasters by "shaving" traffic figures and "ripping" them off (i.e., defrauding them of commissions to which they are entitled). All of these allegations of wrong doing on the part of Robert Botto, RJB Telecom, Inc., and Maximum Cash are totally baseless, untrue and false. Your false statements are made either made with knowledge of the falsity of those statements or with a reckless disregard of the falsity of those statements. Moreover, your defamation falsely implies that Robert Botto is engaging in criminal conduct, and therefore constitutes libel per se.

This is to put you on notice that your false and slanderous statements and accusations against my clients constitute intentional defamation and tortuous interference with prospective business opportunities. Your false and defamatory statements, published in the chat rooms of web sites catering to adult webmasters, appear to be designed and calculated to inflict the greatest possible damage on my clients' business interests and reputation within the very industry that they do business.

On behalf of my clients I make a formal demand on you to immediately cease and desist from any further publication, either in writing or verbally, of defamatory and slanderous false statements and accusations against RJB Telecom, Inc., the Maximum Cash Affiliate Program, Robert Botto or any other person or persons associated with any of them.

If we determine that you make any further defamatory or slanderous statements regarding my clients, my law firm has been authorized to take all appropriate actions to protect their rights, including filing a complaint against you for your willful and malicious tortuous actions in which we will seek maximum monetary damages, including compensatory and punitive damages, injunctive relief and attorneys fees.

I note that your address is in Canada. Lest you mistakenly believe that your actions can not be punished or that you can escape liability because your residence is outside the United States, let me assure you that we are fully prepared to pursue this matter in the United States Federal District Court or, if necessary, to engage our Canadian attorneys to prosecute this matter against you directly in the appropriate Canadian courts.

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Might want to keep a watch on what you are saying or you may be receiving more mail

Shok · 01-17-2004, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lagwagon

whoa that thing is fucking sweet. how fast?

It is computer limited to 200mph to stay legal.

It could hit 300mph if the limiter was removed, but at that speed it will end up a huge fire ball and a smoking hole quickly.

Faster than my thumbs can control it.

BradShaw · 01-17-2004, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
As far as Maxcash goes, they have always been an excellent organization. I have been doing business with them since 1998 (that's six years, longer than most of you have been doing adult) and they are about as good as it gets.

The one time they had problems with the payouts were when they had some legal issues and had their assets frozen. I'll tell you they took a bullet so you could stay in business. When that happened, I and several of my friends sent them MORE traffic. As soon as they unfroze the accounts, they made up for all the problems. It turns out they didn't do anything wrong at all - they were doing exactly what everyone else actually in this industry is doing. They were victims of an overzealous prosecutor because they were the biggest.

These guys are the inventors of the per signup payout. Brave souls. Think before you bash.

Agreed 100%. I have made millions off them over the years. Even when they had some tough times, they came through with every penny. We still send them plenty of traffic and convert very well.

Jive · 01-17-2004, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw

Agreed 100%. I have made millions off them over the years. Even when they had some tough times, they came through with every penny. We still send them plenty of traffic and convert very well.

Well I gues you were chosen not to get screwed Brad..

they payed me pretty straight forward then started shavin the fuck outta me and most others? they were amongst the first to try and fuck webmasters over the party is over for them..
look at there chat board this tells me there's know one around and certainly there not popular anymore. Brad it;s great you cut a deal with them wondrful but that doesn't help us independants out to much..

"puppy shit.."
seeing you found this lovely letter well sometimes webmasters or sponsors just can't take what they dish out words wise?
Sorry, If I'm slammed or mistreated in anyway then you'll get yours right back at ya! forsure..and this letter was washed away along time. ago.. admire it I do..
"now run along and just fuck right off.."

next..

Shok · 01-18-2004, 08:35 AM

here is a shot of it running and testing a smoke sytem on the turbine

Adultnet · 01-18-2004, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
here is a shot of it running and testing a smoke sytem on the turbine

nice

Jive · 01-18-2004, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VirtuMike
As far as Maxcash goes, they have always been an excellent organization. I have been doing business with them since 1998 (that's six years, longer than most of you have been doing adult) and they are about as good as it gets.

The one time they had problems with the payouts were when they had some legal issues and had their assets frozen. I'll tell you they took a bullet so you could stay in business. When that happened, I and several of my friends sent them MORE traffic. As soon as they unfroze the accounts, they made up for all the problems. It turns out they didn't do anything wrong at all - they were doing exactly what everyone else actually in this industry is doing. They were victims of an overzealous prosecutor because they were the biggest.

These guys are the inventors of the per signup payout. Brave souls. Think before you bash.

Well isn't that something? I guess your payed employee of theres
or you were another one that just happened not to get fucked by them!..don;t sugar coat the facts..

the facts everyone was fucked over back years ago at Xmas time.
if they were introuble they should have annouced they were having money problems not hiding the issues! If they were so hot stuff why did they have the worsed looking tours in the business?
what to either steal the traffic from there front ends ends pass it out the back doors. again they never put a pennie hardly into there Biz.. you can't sell crappy looking sites go look around most high end programs having hot looking sites to sell the product/niche/ also the staff wasn't the brightest either you get what you pay for and thats not much.. so stop the golden empire stuff. again perhaps you and Brad shaw gotta a deal.. that doesn't help the all the independants that got fucked!. 'goof/staff/moderator/'

MC will always look bad online. and when was the last time any banners were floating around.. everytime someone speaks about them all I see is there eyes rollling upwards and a clearing of there throat.. MC started shaving webmasters to soon.. when the others weren't back a few years ago..thats when you see the greed!.. and a poorly run program..
so don't paint a lovely streetscape about them there not pretty
just pretty awful.. I speak for the many thats why there chat board is dead.. Gee why is that. because there program stinks
and webmasters have found this to be true and retain the memories of this poorly ran bamboozle..

Vitasoy · 01-18-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shok
here is a shot of it running and testing a smoke sytem on the turbine

dayam

Jive · 01-18-2004, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jive

Well isn't that something? I guess your payed employee of theres
or you were another one that just happened not to get fucked by them!..don;t sugar coat the facts..

the facts everyone was fucked over back years ago at Xmas time.
if they were introuble they should have annouced they were having money problems not hiding the issues! If they were so hot stuff why did they have the worsed looking tours in the business?
what to either steal the traffic from there front ends ends pass it out the back doors. again they never put a pennie hardly into there Biz.. you can't sell crappy looking sites go look around most high end programs having hot looking sites to sell the product/niche/ also the staff wasn't the brightest either you get what you pay for and thats not much.. so stop the golden empire stuff. again perhaps you and Brad shaw gotta a deal.. that doesn't help the all the independants that got fucked!. 'goof/staff/moderator/'

MC will always look bad online. and when was the last time any banners were floating around.. everytime someone speaks about them all I see is there eyes rollling upwards and a clearing of there throat.. MC started shaving webmasters to soon.. when the others weren't back a few years ago..thats when you see the greed!.. and a poorly run program..
so don't paint a lovely streetscape about them there not pretty
just pretty awful.. I speak for the many thats why there chat board is dead.. Gee why is that. because there program stinks
and webmasters have found this to be true and retain the memories of this poorly ran bamboozle..

So we just got the latest news not only did you get canned
but the "Redhead bomber" Old Snoopers got dumped from Maxcash program too.. the Moderator/she announce this to a empty chat board that know one said good bye or even noticed her being fired and she left quickly?

So again with both of you gone and a few others +know more webmasters sending traffic, there's not much left on the MC scam team.. like I said the staff will always get theres in the end they got fucked too..like it or not.. just the facts I'm seeing here..

it looks like you guys got the egg on the face..he.he.
this is wonderful. good by Headless now snoops whos next?

01-17-2004, 04:26 PM	#1
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Check out this lil puppy... Like RC planes? Check out this lil plane I built over the past few days... It's modeled after the f-22 raptor. Not too shabby for a foamy... I am really happy with the paint scheme... <img src="http://bassboard.com/rap2.jpg"> <img src="http://bassboard.com/rap1.jpg">

01-17-2004, 05:37 PM	#11
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	Ok this thread the wrong direction... got any video of that plane flying? __________________

01-17-2004, 05:59 PM	#13
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	who cares about a little snow? __________________

01-17-2004, 06:58 PM	#24
The Click Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,685	lol I build one of those before! I hope it's not your first RC place they are imposible to fly, I paid over $500 for mine I ended up selling it for parts the next day. Since then i am pretty tight on RC planes I bought something called the firehawk to learn on. __________________ ICQ: 31-30-30

01-17-2004, 07:01 PM	#25
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	"who cares about a little snow? " Hey thats what Nasa management said about the Space Shuttle Challenger when it went up in flames. If the weather aint right and Engineering says its a no go... IT'S A NO GO! __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-17-2004, 04:27 PM	#2
Space Puppy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 817	no wonder you were fired from maxcash you spent all your time building model planes so is maxcashlive still running or what?

01-17-2004, 04:27 PM	#3
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	nice! got any videos of it in flight ?

01-17-2004, 04:32 PM	#4
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	Fuck you spacepuppy... I wasn't fired. Got it? Nope vid of it in flight yet... Should be maidening it tomorrow... If the weather holds.

01-17-2004, 04:33 PM	#5
Just_Dave Its almost time Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,009	cool

01-17-2004, 05:27 PM	#8
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	You really shoulod learn to get the facts before you open your mouth. "If the money was flowing bs".... How do you know what I did and why? I was making a nice living working for MC and the $$$ was not an issue in my decision . Maybe if you stop to think about it first you might realize you're stupidity. I will say it again. I was NOT laid off, was NOT fired, was not anything. It was my decision to leave. Plain and simple. I am already starting to get tired of people assuming shit. Even though there are only a few. As for the rest of your bullshit. It's just that, bullshit. You are the only one who actaully listens to yourself.

01-17-2004, 05:29 PM	#9
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	And btw you say it's all in the numbers right? How do you know MaxCash fell apart? Did you see their numbers? No fucking way. So how can you then say they fell apart if at first you say it's all in the numbers? You sir are a TRUE MORON!

01-17-2004, 05:30 PM	#10
dropped9 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Your moms box Posts: 26,727	You are just some washed up cheat who thought he got one up on MC before realizing his check didnt come.

01-17-2004, 06:01 PM	#15
Chris E Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,895	Plane seems cool... how well does it fly?

01-17-2004, 06:03 PM	#16
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Can you recommend a durable RC "trainer"? I'd like to get a plane, but I fear I will destroy it within 5 minutes.

01-17-2004, 06:12 PM	#18
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Cool, I'll check it out. At that price I may even get a backup.

01-17-2004, 07:06 PM	#27
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	I'll let you learn on my turbine F-15 for a 5 grand deposit lol

01-17-2004, 08:47 PM	#30
VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	As far as Maxcash goes, they have always been an excellent organization. I have been doing business with them since 1998 (that's six years, longer than most of you have been doing adult) and they are about as good as it gets. The one time they had problems with the payouts were when they had some legal issues and had their assets frozen. I'll tell you they took a bullet so you could stay in business. When that happened, I and several of my friends sent them MORE traffic. As soon as they unfroze the accounts, they made up for all the problems. It turns out they didn't do anything wrong at all - they were doing exactly what everyone else actually in this industry is doing. They were victims of an overzealous prosecutor because they were the biggest. These guys are the inventors of the per signup payout. Brave souls. Think before you bash. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

01-18-2004, 08:35 AM	#36
Shok Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LIVE EVIL Posts: 5,611	here is a shot of it running and testing a smoke sytem on the turbine