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KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:29 AM

The plan is to setup China to invade Taiwan.

We use tactical nukes, they fire back, and then it escalates to full ICBM time.

Sounds crazy? China is becoming too powerful. The US can't tolerate being downgraded to the #2 superpower.

Watch.

- AFN - · 01-17-2004, 01:30 AM

Where will Walmart buy high quality low priced goods then?

KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by - AFN -
Where will Walmart buy high quality low priced goods then?

Who do you think will get the contracts to rebuild China after we send them back to the stone age?

davecummings · 01-17-2004, 01:32 AM

Naw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave
www.davecummings.com

KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by davecummings
Naw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave
www.davecummings.com

yaw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

little birdies are already chirping.

SleazyDream · 01-17-2004, 01:33 AM

it'll take 20 years before anything happens - china is too far behind to worry about now

playa · 01-17-2004, 01:34 AM

china is still a communist country. It takes more than just nukes to become the top super power

Ash@phpFX · 01-17-2004, 01:34 AM

i hope you are wrong

KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
it'll take 20 years before anything happens - china is too far behind to worry about now

China's People's Liberation Army has outlined plans, including a nuclear conflict with the United States, to "liberate" Taiwan, Hong Kong's South China Morning Post newspaper reported Monday.
The PLA issued a 16-page publication, the Howangjio Weekly, that was devoted to Taiwan, that was sold on street corners. In contrast, most Chinese newspapers had little to say about Taiwan's pro-independence vote.

The publication included plans to send 200,000 fishing vessels with a two-million-strong invading force to take over Taiwan. It also included photographs of what it said were the most advanced secret weapons in the world. These included laser weapons to disable the U.S.-owned F-17's guidance systems, the newspaper said.

The PLA has reportedly been working on a new generation of nuclear weapons, the publication said, and it outlined steps by which China would threaten the United States with nuclear war. China would then sway U.S. public opinion by making economic concessions, and it would increase arms purchases from Russia, the Post reported.

It would then stage a limited attack on Taiwan and if that failed, China would mobilize its people into exercises that would show that it is preparing to survive a nuclear war, the newspaper said.

"The United States will not sacrifice 200 million Americans for 20 million Taiwanese and eventually they are going to back down," the publication said.

Manowar · 01-17-2004, 01:44 AM

China has over a billion people, give them all rifles and ship them to america and we'll all be bowing to the chinese

SleazyDream · 01-17-2004, 01:47 AM

the thing about china - is that their gov't is fucked up enough to actually DO something like what you're sugesting......

Pornwolf · 01-17-2004, 01:49 AM

Ha! We will be skeet shooting those motherfuckers as they hit the beaches! We have been waiting for another good legal reason to use all these guns.

I do belive that report though. The Chinese people are up to something. They can be THE world power easily if they wanted to. They have a lot less to lose than we do but they have way more people they CAN afford to lose.

Mr.Fiction · 01-17-2004, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by playa
china is still a communist country. It takes more than just nukes to become the top super power

Luckily they don't have any people or raw materials, just nukes.

KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Ha! We will be skeet shooting those mitherfuckers as they hit the beaches! We have been waiting for another good legal reason to use all these guns.

I do belive that report though. The Chinese people are up to something. They can be THE world power easily if they wanted to. They have a lot less to lose than we do but they have way more people they CAN afford to lose.

Good point. They can lose 10, 20, 50 even 100 Million people and still have 900 million left.

That's a scary thought.

Nas7782 · 01-17-2004, 01:50 AM

Not likely. More like a fantasy. Our current president have closer ties to China than any other president in history. Google for a story of Bush's nephew profiteering millions by being a hired help in China.

Just because a portion of their 2 billion populations consume cats and other western pets doesn't necessarily mean the U.S. will wage any form of war against them.

SleazyDream · 01-17-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

The publication included plans to send 200,000 fishing vessels with a two-million-strong invading force to take over Taiwan.

lets hope no big waves accidently occur when the convoy is comming.....

boneprone · 01-17-2004, 01:52 AM

Great....

Im gunna have to keep telling people Im Mexican at the Webmaster shows and not let em know Im Chineese..

Fucking gooks.

RP Fade · 01-17-2004, 01:53 AM

No need for nukes..just take the doctor's masks away..they'll drop like flies

KRL · 01-17-2004, 01:55 AM

China GDP - $5.89 Trillion

US GDP - $10.45 Trillion

China's GDP has quadrupled since 1978 and is growing at faster rates than the US.

Rich · 01-17-2004, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
The plan is to setup China to invade Taiwan.

We use tactical nukes, they fire back, and then it escalates to full ICBM time.

Sounds crazy? China is becoming too powerful. The US can't tolerate being downgraded to the #2 superpower.

Watch.

That will certainly happen if these guys keep dominating Bush's foriegn policy:
http://www.newamericancentury.org

Pornwolf · 01-17-2004, 02:14 AM

It's surprising how many people don't respect the strides these people are making. It's like they all of a sudden woke up from a deep slumber.

China isn't all rice marshes and farmers. They are waay advanced. What's scary is their outlook on things. It's totally different than ours and they hate us, as does everyone else now. I am never scared of a bully, I'm more worried about the little guy with nothing to lose and a lot to prove.

Here's a picture of Hong Kong just to give you an idea of how advanced they are.

These are not cave dwellers.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-17-2004, 02:20 AM

The media's new printed enemy this week...
Nice...

Aint you people gettin burnt on Bullshit lies the media feeds ya?
Bin Laden and his MIGHTY terrorist network, Saddam the Butcher...

Don't ya guys see a pattern here?

Pornwolf · 01-17-2004, 02:23 AM

Actually my outlook isn't based on any American media reports. I haven't seen much about them in our news anyway. As far as I know they aren't a target for us. Now Iran and Syria, that's another story.

SilverTab · 01-17-2004, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
It's surprising how many people don't respect the strides these people are making. It's like they all of a sudden woke up from a deep slumber.

China isn't all rice marshes and farmers. They are waay advanced. What's scary is their outlook on things. It's totally different than ours and they hate us, as does everyone else now. I am never scared of a bully, I'm more worried about the little guy with nothing to lose and a lot to prove.

Here's a picture of Hong Kong just to give you an idea of how advanced they are.

These are not cave dwellers.

damn, you're sure that this is a picture?? looks like a computer generated image!....eighter way...it's nice...

pamphage · 01-17-2004, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
It's surprising how many people don't respect the strides these people are making. It's like they all of a sudden woke up from a deep slumber.

China isn't all rice marshes and farmers. They are waay advanced. What's scary is their outlook on things. It's totally different than ours and they hate us, as does everyone else now. I am never scared of a bully, I'm more worried about the little guy with nothing to lose and a lot to prove.

Here's a picture of Hong Kong just to give you an idea of how advanced they are.

These are not cave dwellers.

hong kong was under british rule until relatively recently tho

wdsguy · 01-17-2004, 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
China GDP - $5.89 Trillion

US GDP - $10.45 Trillion

China's GDP has quadrupled since 1978 and is growing at faster rates than the US.

China's GDP will level off, it is only high during the early stages of industrailization.

If you wanna talk about who might be the next hegemon in the world, Look towards the EU instead.

Also China's Nuclear weapons program is shit compared to the US. They have few sea(SLBMS) and air nuclear capabilities. Most of their land launch sites are not mobile and can be easily destroyed. They probably only have a total of less than 30 DF ICBMs. Compared with the US having Long range bombers,trident submarines and hundres of peacekeeper/minutemen missiles, I really don't think China is a threat. Atleast not militarily

Pornwolf · 01-17-2004, 02:34 AM

Not a threat? Yeah, just wait til we are all VoIP next year.

http://internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3300731

Russia and China will have our balls in a vice at will.

pamphage · 01-17-2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Not a threat? Yeah, just wait til we are all VoIP next year.

http://internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3300731

Russia and China will have our balls in a vice at will.

cyber warfare roxxor jou

wdsguy · 01-17-2004, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Not a threat? Yeah, just wait til we are all VoIP next year.

http://internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3300731

Russia and China will have our balls in a vice at will.

that cyberwarfare idea is seriously overblown and misfounded, this article comes out every year.

ControlThy · 01-17-2004, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by wdsguy

If you wanna talk about who might be the next hegemon in the world, Look towards the EU instead.

True.
Once the expansion to 25 memberstates has taken place, the European Union will most likely have the largest economy in the world. But don't worry, unless they start spending heavily on defense they will be no threat to the US.

And who would want to kill the trade relationship the US and EU have? (the biggest in the world.) And the mutual investements.....

fedfest · 01-17-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by KRL

Good point. They can lose 10, 20, 50 even 100 Million people and still have 900 million left.

That's a scary thought.

Even more scary is that they'r actualy 1.3 billion and increasing 11.7 percent per year... So guess if the war lasted about a year and they wasted some 150 million people on it they would still be 1.3 bill left.. wonder how many americans would be left at that point ?

Btw.. That war better get started now.. By next year they will be 1.4 billion

Pornwolf · 01-17-2004, 02:45 AM

It WAS overblown. If we turn into a VoIP communications using country business can be virtually shut down by a DoS attack. That's a scary thought. With standard switches on the current legacy telco networkks we are protected from that.

Shutting down business for too long of a period can do serious damage to the economy. Hell, shutting us down for two days can wreck the stock market.

KRL · 01-17-2004, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
It's surprising how many people don't respect the strides these people are making. It's like they all of a sudden woke up from a deep slumber.

China isn't all rice marshes and farmers. They are waay advanced. What's scary is their outlook on things. It's totally different than ours and they hate us, as does everyone else now. I am never scared of a bully, I'm more worried about the little guy with nothing to lose and a lot to prove.

Here's a picture of Hong Kong just to give you an idea of how advanced they are.

These are not cave dwellers.

Exactly right Pornwolf! People think China is still just a bunch of rice farmers and dog eaters. LOL.

ControlThy · 01-17-2004, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by fedfest

Even more scary is that they'r actualy 1.3 billion and increasing 11.7 percent per year...

Population increase of 11.7 percent per year?!

Worldbank reports an increase of : 0.7 % (2002)
CIA World Factbook reports : 0.6% (2003)

goBigtime · 01-17-2004, 03:01 AM

blah.

My opinions scare me sometimes

goBigtime · 01-17-2004, 03:06 AM

But after the global thermal nuclear war I bet you can get some great deals on domains KRL

the indigo · 01-17-2004, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy

China's GDP will level off, it is only high during the early stages of industrailization.

If you wanna talk about who might be the next hegemon in the world, Look towards the EU instead.

Also China's Nuclear weapons program is shit compared to the US. They have few sea(SLBMS) and air nuclear capabilities. Most of their land launch sites are not mobile and can be easily destroyed. They probably only have a total of less than 30 DF ICBMs. Compared with the US having Long range bombers,trident submarines and hundres of peacekeeper/minutemen missiles, I really don't think China is a threat. Atleast not militarily

lol... like boxing, half the power is in the motivation. China solders will have way more motivation to battle than any american if a war happens. You are screwed.

Chris E · 01-17-2004, 03:24 AM

Nah, never gonna happen.

funkmaster · 01-17-2004, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
The plan is to setup China to invade Taiwan.

We use tactical nukes, they fire back, and then it escalates to full ICBM time.

Sounds crazy? China is becoming too powerful. The US can't tolerate being downgraded to the #2 superpower.

Watch.

... I haven't read many of your other 11,000 post yet, but I guess I haven't missed much either.

KRL · 01-17-2004, 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by funkmaster

... I haven't read many of your other 11,000 post yet, but I guess I haven't missed much either.

LOL

No you haven't I'm just your typical GFY Ass Clown.

KRL · 01-17-2004, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
But after the global thermal nuclear war I bet you can get some great deals on domains KRL

I already have ChineseGirls.com.cn

kmanrox · 01-17-2004, 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone
Great....

Im gunna have to keep telling people Im Mexican at the Webmaster shows and not let em know Im Chineese..

Fucking gooks.

ROFL@!!!!!!##@#@$$@#%#

btw gooks are viatnamese... you, are part(full?) CHINK.... get your racial slurs straight =)

candidpublishinginc · 01-17-2004, 05:05 AM

There is a lot of bullshit flying in this thread.

First of all the PLA can barely project force outside of its own borders and its Navy is a joke. Also PLA pilots aren't trained nearly as well as Taiwanese pilots and to top it off PLA pilots use old MIG while Taiwanese pilots use modern U.S. and European aircraft. No contest.

Sure China can use nukes against us, but they know very well that is suicide. Also furthermore like someone here pointed out, Bush is pretty friendly with the Chinese and backs their "One China" policy. From a historical standpoint Taiwan is indeed part of China. I would however prefer to see Taiwan reunified once China has greater social freedoms and has a quasi republican government, which can very possibly happen within 100 years.

China doesn't expect Taiwan to reunify now, and they do tolerate Taiwan in its "limbo" state however they will not tolerate any official statement of independance. The KMT (Nationalist) Party (Think of it as Taiwan's version of the Republican Party) supports eventual reunification with the mainland. Both the U.S. Republican Party and the KMT Party are political allies. However the current president of Taiwan is not from the KMT party but rather from a different one, and he has recently gotten very radical about the independance movement. The U.S. does not support Taiwan's independance, but also does not support any use of force on China's end to reunify Taiwan.

Also China isn't a true Communist country. Since 1978 they have reformed their economic system and moved from Soviet style central planning to a market driven decentralized economy. Thus, economic freedoms are continuing to grow along side with capitalism however the poltical controls as well as social freedoms remain very restricted at the moment. If China truely was Communist and followed the bullshit Mao spewed you would never see so many products manufactured in China. Furthermore, their economy would never grow by leaps and bounds because central planning doesn't work which is why every Communist country failed. Right now it's hard to call China communist. Authoritarian and totalitarian absolutely, but not communist.

In addition, China would never allow Hong Kong to continue its capitalist system and way of life if China was truely communist.

Oh and for the person posting screenshots of Hong Kong. Please keep in mind that it was under British rule until 1997 so it's a bad example. Presently Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region and maintains a degree of automony and has its own constitution, legal system (British common law), currency, country code, and courts system. Hong Kong also maintains its own borders. So while it is part of China, there is still a border between the mainland and Hong Kong SAR.

There are lots of modern Chinese cities though. Shanghai and Guangzhou for example. Believe it or not there is a fairly large middle class in mainland China (about 400 million) that has quite a bit of spending power. They can enjoy consumer goods such as video game consoles, DVD players, mobile phones, etc. Furthermore they can traval too, and right now lots of mainlanders are traveling to HK and spending lots and lots dough. There is a huge peasent problem though, since about there are about 600 million peasents in China.

Also anyone who says that People's Liberation Army troops are more "dedicated" than American troops is a complete fucking idiot. PLA troops are conscripts and not well trained while American troops are all volunteers and very well trained. You simply cannot compare the two. The PLA does have an advantage in numbers though, but the U.S. military makes up for it in technology. Regardless it would probably not be a good idea to invade China since they might do something insane like launch their nukes once they see that we are going to make their government crumble.

Playah · 01-17-2004, 05:12 AM

This whole thread is idiotic. Both the USA and China have enough nukes to completely wipe out the other many times over. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction and that's been the case for decades. Of course the American nukes are better and more accurate, but China has enough of them to flatten the USA anyway. There will not be a planned nuclear war any time soon.

MadCap · 01-17-2004, 05:14 AM

glad i bought all those .cn typeins so if they get us im changing my name to hyu nyguen.

MadCap · 01-17-2004, 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by kmanrox

ROFL@!!!!!!##@#@$$@#%#

btw gooks are viatnamese... you, are part(full?) CHINK.... get your racial slurs straight =)

Forgetit im just going to move in with kmanrox and bang hookers and do lines of other peoples cars in parking lots in the far east.

candidpublishinginc · 01-17-2004, 05:18 AM

Hyu nyguen isn't even a Chinese name. It is vaguely Vietnamese, but that would be a stretch since your spelling is off.

MadCap · 01-17-2004, 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
Hyu nyguen isn't even a Chinese name. It is vaguely Vietnamese, but that would be a stretch since your spelling is off.

ok ill just call myself CHINKY CHINKENSTIEN the CHINK.

hows that dipshit.

candidpublishinginc · 01-17-2004, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by MadCap
hows that dipshit.

That's great! Thanks for showing off your education to everyone!

Also hows should be how's.

webgurl · 01-17-2004, 05:30 AM

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Originally posted by MadCap

ok ill just call myself CHINKY CHINKENSTIEN the CHINK.

hows that dipshit.

are u chinese ? I am , and so is boneprone .......

This is interesting thread to read up on 4:30 am Friday/Saturday morning ...

After reading all this , to sum it up
candidpublishinginc and Playah can't agree with you more on the garbage that's written in this thread so far pretty amazing ....

01-17-2004, 01:29 AM	#1
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	US will nuke China? The plan is to setup China to invade Taiwan. We use tactical nukes, they fire back, and then it escalates to full ICBM time. Sounds crazy? China is becoming too powerful. The US can't tolerate being downgraded to the #2 superpower. Watch. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

01-17-2004, 01:33 AM	#6
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01-17-2004, 01:34 AM	#7
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	china is still a communist country. It takes more than just nukes to become the top super power

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Nas7782 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: .US Posts: 493	Not likely. More like a fantasy. Our current president have closer ties to China than any other president in history. Google for a story of Bush's nephew profiteering millions by being a hired help in China. Just because a portion of their 2 billion populations consume cats and other western pets doesn't necessarily mean the U.S. will wage any form of war against them.

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	China GDP - $5.89 Trillion US GDP - $10.45 Trillion China's GDP has quadrupled since 1978 and is growing at faster rates than the US. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

01-17-2004, 02:14 AM	#21
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	It's surprising how many people don't respect the strides these people are making. It's like they all of a sudden woke up from a deep slumber. China isn't all rice marshes and farmers. They are waay advanced. What's scary is their outlook on things. It's totally different than ours and they hate us, as does everyone else now. I am never scared of a bully, I'm more worried about the little guy with nothing to lose and a lot to prove. Here's a picture of Hong Kong just to give you an idea of how advanced they are. These are not cave dwellers. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

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01-17-2004, 02:23 AM	#23
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Actually my outlook isn't based on any American media reports. I haven't seen much about them in our news anyway. As far as I know they aren't a target for us. Now Iran and Syria, that's another story. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-17-2004, 02:34 AM	#27
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Not a threat? Yeah, just wait til we are all VoIP next year. http://internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3300731 Russia and China will have our balls in a vice at will. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-17-2004, 02:45 AM	#32
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	It WAS overblown. If we turn into a VoIP communications using country business can be virtually shut down by a DoS attack. That's a scary thought. With standard switches on the current legacy telco networkks we are protected from that. Shutting down business for too long of a period can do serious damage to the economy. Hell, shutting us down for two days can wreck the stock market. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

01-17-2004, 03:01 AM	#35
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	blah. My opinions scare me sometimes Last edited by goBigtime; 01-17-2004 at 03:04 AM..

01-17-2004, 03:06 AM	#36
goBigtime Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,761	But after the global thermal nuclear war I bet you can get some great deals on domains KRL

01-17-2004, 03:24 AM	#38
Chris E Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,895	Nah, never gonna happen.

01-17-2004, 05:05 AM	#43
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	There is a lot of bullshit flying in this thread. First of all the PLA can barely project force outside of its own borders and its Navy is a joke. Also PLA pilots aren't trained nearly as well as Taiwanese pilots and to top it off PLA pilots use old MIG while Taiwanese pilots use modern U.S. and European aircraft. No contest. Sure China can use nukes against us, but they know very well that is suicide. Also furthermore like someone here pointed out, Bush is pretty friendly with the Chinese and backs their "One China" policy. From a historical standpoint Taiwan is indeed part of China. I would however prefer to see Taiwan reunified once China has greater social freedoms and has a quasi republican government, which can very possibly happen within 100 years. China doesn't expect Taiwan to reunify now, and they do tolerate Taiwan in its "limbo" state however they will not tolerate any official statement of independance. The KMT (Nationalist) Party (Think of it as Taiwan's version of the Republican Party) supports eventual reunification with the mainland. Both the U.S. Republican Party and the KMT Party are political allies. However the current president of Taiwan is not from the KMT party but rather from a different one, and he has recently gotten very radical about the independance movement. The U.S. does not support Taiwan's independance, but also does not support any use of force on China's end to reunify Taiwan. Also China isn't a true Communist country. Since 1978 they have reformed their economic system and moved from Soviet style central planning to a market driven decentralized economy. Thus, economic freedoms are continuing to grow along side with capitalism however the poltical controls as well as social freedoms remain very restricted at the moment. If China truely was Communist and followed the bullshit Mao spewed you would never see so many products manufactured in China. Furthermore, their economy would never grow by leaps and bounds because central planning doesn't work which is why every Communist country failed. Right now it's hard to call China communist. Authoritarian and totalitarian absolutely, but not communist. In addition, China would never allow Hong Kong to continue its capitalist system and way of life if China was truely communist. Oh and for the person posting screenshots of Hong Kong. Please keep in mind that it was under British rule until 1997 so it's a bad example. Presently Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region and maintains a degree of automony and has its own constitution, legal system (British common law), currency, country code, and courts system. Hong Kong also maintains its own borders. So while it is part of China, there is still a border between the mainland and Hong Kong SAR. There are lots of modern Chinese cities though. Shanghai and Guangzhou for example. Believe it or not there is a fairly large middle class in mainland China (about 400 million) that has quite a bit of spending power. They can enjoy consumer goods such as video game consoles, DVD players, mobile phones, etc. Furthermore they can traval too, and right now lots of mainlanders are traveling to HK and spending lots and lots dough. There is a huge peasent problem though, since about there are about 600 million peasents in China. Also anyone who says that People's Liberation Army troops are more "dedicated" than American troops is a complete fucking idiot. PLA troops are conscripts and not well trained while American troops are all volunteers and very well trained. You simply cannot compare the two. The PLA does have an advantage in numbers though, but the U.S. military makes up for it in technology. Regardless it would probably not be a good idea to invade China since they might do something insane like launch their nukes once they see that we are going to make their government crumble. __________________ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS! Last edited by candidpublishinginc; 01-17-2004 at 05:10 AM..

01-17-2004, 05:12 AM	#44
Playah Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 20	This whole thread is idiotic. Both the USA and China have enough nukes to completely wipe out the other many times over. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction and that's been the case for decades. Of course the American nukes are better and more accurate, but China has enough of them to flatten the USA anyway. There will not be a planned nuclear war any time soon.

01-17-2004, 05:14 AM	#45
MadCap Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: 137771650 Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,357	glad i bought all those .cn typeins so if they get us im changing my name to hyu nyguen.

01-17-2004, 05:18 AM	#47
candidpublishinginc Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bedford, NH 03110 Posts: 707	Hyu nyguen isn't even a Chinese name. It is vaguely Vietnamese, but that would be a stretch since your spelling is off. __________________ Candid Clicks Earn up to 4 cents a click for blind link traffic! NO CONVERSIONS, NO BS!