I see , so lets get this straight. Its ok to murder 3 babies to stop a man in a wheelchair from talking ? Ok you make lots of sense now.

Your condoning the murder of 3 innocent babies because of guilt by association.

So if your kids are riding on the bus and the military blows the bus apart and tells you later , HEY lady look , there was some bad guy in a wheelchair who told people to kill other people so we blew up the bus and everyone on it. Your fine with that ?

You really are the bottom of the barrel. You need some morals and ethics.

They should make sure people like you arent let into the usa anymore. Poor moral fiber , and ignorant to boot.

Try reading the thread little girl, Perhaps your nose got in page 2 without actually reading it. :)

What have i been proven wrong on ?? Nothing.

Lets see.

OJ was sentenced and you seem to think he wasnt . theres your first mistake.

Isreal ordered 2 people to murder someone ( just as yassin did ) and they exchanged the people and now you think its alright to murder him and break the law.

You think killing babies is ok ?

Hmm shall i continue . LOL

I figure i will remind you to answer this question again.

ANSWER THE QUESTION !!! :) dont avoid the topic just answer it.

A public bus is a lot different than the man's living room, but nice try anyway cock gobbler.

Im married thanks anyways ,try answering the question above you. :)

I think that such people should not be given this respect for a court.

I see then the question above is for you as well. Who makes that decision ?

yes, but a country that announce an target for its attack is different from a terror organization with out responsibility at all on the international arena.

I will answer the question. Those that are responsible for the security of the nation and the lives of the people that they are responsible for protecting. Any member of Hamas is an enemy of Israel...governments slay their enemies...as do individuals...been the case since the human animal came into being.

I guess the person aiming the bomb. As I said, if you came into my house uninvited, you would be sentenced to death immediately and legally.

Points you were proven wrong on:

1. You said it was wrong to kill a guy in a wheelchair...YOU ARE WRONG!

2. You said the guy was never convicted of anything...YOU WERE WRONG!

3. You said he served his sentence...YOU WERE WRONG! A compromise is not serving out a sentence.

All I said about OJ was "He was not convicted of murder", and I was right...or have you forgotten that "Not Guilty" thing?

Ill explain to you the reason why america works and the reason why we have courts.

Right or wrong it is an official record that can be pointed to when someone asks a question.

The palestinian children will grow up and their parent will tell them lies about this man and he will be a martyr and a hero. If he goes to court , people can say LOOK this is what he did , THIS is the family of innocent isrealis that he helped kill and so on. Without this you have un-answered questions and the wars will go on and on forever. People need to be held accountable for the things they have done , and if i was a families victim i would be offended that they wouldnt make this man see his day in court and punished for what he did and make him remember and see the families of those he helped kill.

This way he gets off easy and looks like a saint in the eyes of his followers.

The government cabinet in Israel took the decision and it is thier decision to make...

I see you have avoided answering the simple questiona nd switched topics again, but i will humour you.

#1 i never said they shouldnt kill people in wheelchairs , your a liar , quote me or shut the fuck up bitch

#2 i never stated he was never convicted of anything .] Your a liar quote me or shut the fuck up bitch

#3 he did serve his sentence as provided by the court. The COURTS freed him thus changing his sentence from life in prison. ( TRY READING THE ACTUAL FACTS YOU INGROWN TWATHAIR )

You said he was not convicted period and you also went on further to say you cant be convicted in a civil case and you can look back on page #2 for the exact quote. where you stated this. so can anyone else with one finger and a mouse.

The people who will consider him a martyr, will do so with or without a trial.

And again, executions can take place legally without a trial. If you don't believe me, then come on in my house tonight.:winkwink:

Quit spouting off about someone breaking into your house , lol im a 6'3 biker and you prob have a little girly .22 pistol

I have been shot 3 times twice with a .22 and once with a 357 in the gut and i can tell you now i would walk all over your face bullets or not :) .

Ok.. :)

No it is for the courts to decide criminal matters.

If he is a criminal arrest him try him and convict him , if not then leave him alone.

You seem to think im standing up for him , quite the contrary i think he should be executed too IF and ONLY IF he is tried and convicted. To be quite honest none of us have any personal experience with the man so all we know is what the media tells us. That is why we have courts so we know what the truth is. Not 100% jewish ordered killings.

Bull shit lol

Care to elaborate , that doesnt tell us much . :)

My answer was...whoever is aiming the bomb

You have made your point. You prefer enemies to be tried in court...others...including the US...sometimes choose to kill their enemy and by pass a court. The US has executed many al Qaeda members...and leaders...since 9/11...and some by remote control...some will be tried by military tribunal...and some will be tried by our justice system.

Question...were the two shots by .22...head shots?

I don't think you stand up for him I think that you are confused regarding who he is ..
he is not a criminal he is a spiritual leader of the hams get over it no cart for him. Now if you are trying to say that the a government level of Israel is not obliged to take such decision I can understand this but they are and they don't own anything to me or to you.

You are the one who likes examples. Breaking into my house is MY example of a legal execution without a trial.

And trust me, one of my bullets would drop you dead.

But we do agree that a .22 is a girly pistol. I doubt you would get to me through my .45, but I KNOW you wouldn't get to me through my AK47.

I hate girly guns.:1orglaugh

One of the biggest flaws in your logic is that you assume that the "palestinians" have courts.

As I recall these are people that don't necessarily have courts, they do what they want to do. Stoning is still a legitimate way of killing people to them. This is evident in their repeated random attacking and murdering of Israeli civilians going about their daily business.

Did the Israeli citizens get a trial while they were hit with deadly shrapnel on their way to work? Did they know or even suspect someone was after them?

I'd like to also point out right now:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS PALESTINE. There is no legitimate Palestinian state. Hence, there are no legitimate authorities in the West Bank and Gaza besides Israeli authorities, and the people calling themselves "palestinians" are in fact guests of Israel.

If you attack an army officer or soldier in America, that officer's job is not to arrest you and bring you in to a nice cushy courtroom where public defenders in suits defend you, his job is to take you out. How far do you think we would have gotten in any of our wars if we fought attacking enemy armies by charging with billyclubs and handcuffs?

Thanks for re-quoting me so you can point out to yourself how wrong you are. Does it look like i said not to murder him solely for that fact. ? Try reading 2 posts down from that where i elaborate and explain how it has nothing to do with the fact he is in a wheelchair , i only mentioned that because it obivously means he did not ACTIVELY participate in murders.

If you "para" quote tiny bits of anything you can make it look whatever way you want.

Nice try though. Clever how you left out the other 2 wrong facts you made as well

And also nice how you thing the decision on who to kill or who not to kill should be left up to Joe gunholder. Gee that would make the world a safer place.

Whoever has the gun makes the decisions. LOL get a grip you ignorant little girl.

His logic is simple and is about who gave to the countries in the world the permission to decide on a target with out bringing the subject the court.
This logic is pathetic and it is hard to prove here some thing opposite.

You changed your view 2 posts down because you realized you looked like an idiot.:1orglaugh

The decision of who to kill is ALWAYS left to the person holding the gun. If they make the wrong decision, the there will be consequences.

And, this ignorant little girl is done playing with you. Goodnight.

Both parties have done random attacks so your argument is very weak there.

In america if you attack a soldier and its the next day , you arent allowed to just go and kill the guy , you must arrest him and try him first. You obivously have not been in the military , At no time are you allowed to murder people who arent armed and are posing no resistance. Just as a police officer is not allowed to kill a person for being a murderer.

It doesnt matter what court you try him in . As i said they could even try him in absentia as long as he gets a trial . If he doesnt then what kind of proof do we go on ? Hearsay ?

America did not get where it is by executing men in a wheelchair, it got where it is by using LAWS to control the people and PUNISHMENTS to fit the crimes.

Not by randomly executing those they see fit.


Lets get back to the brawn of the story though for those who dont know the facts.

Isreal Ordered the MURDER/ASSASINATION of someone ina FOREIGN country. ( mush like yassin ordered the execution of 2 isreal agents )

So far we have 2 confirmed people ordering deaths. Now the difference is yassin got busted and the president of israel got nothing. ?? The mossad got nothing ??

Ok so now they swap prisoners, and years later they think . Gee we should never have let that guy go. Lets kill him. What about the 2 mossad agents who did MORE than just plan to kill someone they actually went about doing it.

Yet those men as well as the men that PLANNED that execution are as free as birds and have not done a day in jail.

I never changed my views once you just cant read properly or you missed page one and two, try reading them. go ahead it wont make you look much more foolish than you already do.

I have only ever had one point and you cant even argue that. and that is that nobody should be killed without a trial PERIOD . Thats about it, you can try making it about anything you want but thats what it boils down to. You seem to think its alright to just arbitrarily make up the laws as you go along.

This about sums up your mentality. Let whoever holds the gun kill anyone they see fit with no proof needed or judge just let them waste people at random.

Your a fucking pathetic joke for a human missy.

the US...sometimes choose to kill their enemy and by pass a court. The US has executed many al Qaeda members...and leaders...since 9/11...and some by remote control...some will be tried by military tribunal...and some will be tried by our justice system.

no country in the world act according to his ideology.

150 posts..

hmm i havent heard of any al-queda members executed without a trial at all. If they did this , then its wrong. But i havent ever heard of this before. Nor have i heard of any other people ordered killed by the usa. Perhaps you could share this information with us as no media has been reported about such things ??

I dont think you understand that its a revolving door philosophy.

If you order the death of a guy in jordan then jordan says aha you planned and ordered a murder so now jordan can officially order your murder. Now china says jordan is planning and ordering murders, so they order jordan to be executed , so now japan notices china ordering the killing of jordan and says hey thats wrong etc etc do you understand why the wars rage on now. :) Do you understand now why we are at peace here in the usa. :) * p.s. it has to do with courts and trials and fairness.

The example is pathetic so is the ideology or the point you try to express..

Damn

You mean that people should be tried before a court , not before the media or hearsay ? Yah i can understand that its totally unreasonable to expect that people might actually be FAIRLY tried and convicted instead of just murdering him in cold blood.

Your totally right , we should just take GFY opinion polls on who should be executed, Fuck the courts. Fuck evidence , Fuck proof.

Why even have courts lets just have one guy up there who just looks at you and decides according to what you look like or what his friends tell him.

God forbid, you might actually learn something.

Why should we be using American law to dictate how another country deals with its terrorists?

The guy is a "palestinian" terrorist. Under his own laws, which he is fighting to gain as a state, he is not necessarily entitled to a trial, he is not given rights, and is violating muslim law.

Wheelchair or not, he's not an easy person to bring to justice. Israel has obviously determined that it is easier to take him out than take him in - minimizing loss of life to the LEGITIMATE government of the land. If you personally volunteer to go in and get this guy and deliver him to the proper authorities, then I'm sure he would get his trial. However, since you feel more comfortable sitting behind your computer, as do I, then I would let the situation work itself out as determined by the lawful governing body of the land.

Don't go complaining that public enemy #1 might not get a chance at a trial. Go and get this guy and make sure he gets a trial, which he is not entitled to. Eldan rents cars for like $20 a day. You could zip in, grab the guy, wheel him to the nearest police station, turn him in, and spend the rest of the day hanging out on the beach drinking pomegranate smoothies and staring at Israeli swimsuit models. Not a bad day at all. So why not give it a try?

If the police and army get shot at while attempting to make the arrest, it's open season. Terrorism is a brand new concept to America. Israel has been dealing with it for many years. They're pretty good at it. And they're pretty good at making both swimsuit models and swimsuits too.

Charles Manson never personally killed anyone, he brainwashed people into doing his deeds for him.. This is a well known fact, unless you can show proof otherwise...

Just because he was arrested and tried does not make him a murderer, Conspiracy to comit murder, Acomplace, and Murderer are different things...

He was a crazy nut who had the ability to manipulate people and turn them into sheep, having other people do your dirty work is how this world works..

Hellfire direct hit. Israel is also using hellfire. Expensive, but minimizes civilian casualties.... Enjoy

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You apparently watch the news at random. In Afganistan airstrikes were ordered...on multiple occasions against vehicles suspected of transporting al Qaeda members. Sometimes it was al Qaeda members in the vechicles...sometimes not. In at least one instance an airstrike was ordered by a remote control aircraft against a vehicle suspected of transporting al Qaeda leaders...and in this instance they were correct...two top echelon leaders were killed among others in the vehicle. State of the art execution. I repeat...goverments kill their enemies...just as individuals do...and has been the case since the human animal came into being. Sometimes they are tried by military tribunal...sometimes by the justice system...sometimes they are terminated with prejudice. Nothing new about any of this.

You seem to prefer trial by court for enemies...and this is sometimes the case...but the usual method is to kill the enemy.