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Old 01-14-2004, 03:26 PM   #1
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N.C. boy found dead next to pit bull

Gosh..no matter how bad your day was atleast you baby wasn't found like this :


N.C. boy found dead next to pit bull


ANDERSON CREEK, N.C. -- A 3-year-old boy reported missing from his home was later found dead next to a pit bull chained in a neighbor's back yard.

Authorities would not confirm how the child died or that a dog attacked him, but Sheriff Larry Rollins said Wednesday that he had "trauma to the body."

Rollins did not identify the boy, but said he lived in the Anderson Creek community, about 15 miles north of Fayetteville, where his body was discovered late Tuesday.

The child's mother said he wandered from home around 4:30 p.m. and that she called 911 to report him missing about two hours later. A responding officer found the body shortly before 8 p.m. in the next-door neighbor's yard, authorities said.

"He was found right there in the area of the chained dog," Rollins said.

A deputy had to shoot the dog to reach the body, the sheriff said.

A second dog confined elsewhere on the property was not involved; it was being held at the county animal shelter, Rollins said.

"All the kids knew they were mean dogs back there," said Jason Walden, who lives on the same street. The victim had been playing with Walden's 6-year-old son earlier Tuesday afternoon, Walden said.

Deputies were interviewing the dog's owner, neighbors and the boy's mother. No charges had been filed Wednesday, but Rollins said a search warrant was obtained.

"We're just putting the puzzle together to find out exactly what did happen," Rollins said.

The boy's father, who was deployed in Iraq, had been contacted by Red Cross officials, and was coming home.



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The boy's father, who was deployed in Iraq, had been contacted by Red Cross officials, and was coming home.
talk about a long fucking trip home
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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
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Sad situation but if the dog was confined then it's the kids fault for going back there. Not that a three year old has much common sense, but I don't think you can blame the dog.

Sucks for the parents though.
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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
I agree. People will say that they are sweet and lovable and that is all just bullshit.
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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
Not to flame but pitbulls can be really nice dogs if they're brought up right... the bad press they get is more a reflection of the types of people that tend to get them (and mistreat them).

A purebred pitbull has the potential for violence but doesn't tend to be violent because they're fearless - it's normally when they've been bred with a breed that does have fear that they get vicious, because they get scared and yet they have this enormous amount of power.
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Sad situation but if the dog was confined then it's the kids fault for going back there. Not that a three year old has much common sense, but I don't think you can blame the dog.

Sucks for the parents though.
anyone who has ever lived in a neighboorhod with kids knows that kids go into people's backyards and a dog is an especially strong draw. Heck, that is why my folks wouldn't let us have a swing set because if a neighbor kid went on it when we weren't home and hurt themselves they could have sued my parents.

If you can't be certain your dog isn't going to attack someone what is it doing in the yard?

Poor kid...and the dad was the thing that stood out for me too.
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Not to flame but pitbulls can be really nice dogs if they're brought up right... the bad press they get is more a reflection of the types of people that tend to get them (and mistreat them).

A purebred pitbull has the potential for violence but doesn't tend to be violent because they're fearless - it's normally when they've been bred with a breed that does have fear that they get vicious, because they get scared and yet they have this enormous amount of power.
any dog has the potential to turn vicious due to mistreatment.... granted. but these dogs just have a nature about them even with the right upbringing, can snap and turn at any given moment.
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That is just mortifying for any parent to have to endure. 2 hours she waited before she called the police, I would have been frantic and been on the phone while searching the neighborhood. I have a child that loved to hide in places we couldnt find him and he sat and watched while i had the whole neighborhood looking for him and I would be in massive tears crying his name out...this was on several occasions.

Poor child
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we all blame the dog....where the hell was the mother.....to let your 3yr old child wander around outside alone.....

pitbulls do have a bad wrap, ive been around very gentle pits and ive been around very mean pits

ive also been around mean little dogs....its boils down the the owner taking responsiblitlty and training the dogs proper.....

and once again a dog will do what a dog is trained to do....parents to responsibility in raising your children
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I agree. People will say that they are sweet and lovable and that is all just bullshit.
my friend has the biggest most friendly pit ive ever seen, but he doesnt know his size and scares people when he tries to climb up on their lap.
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hmmmm, 3 year old wanders off on his own, and everyone is pissed at the dog

riiiiight
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any dog has the potential to turn vicious due to mistreatment.... granted. but these dogs just have a nature about them even with the right upbringing, can snap and turn at any given moment.
I agree with you to an extent. Pit bulls are for a fact some of the nicest dogs there are. Most people raise them to be mean and that is the problem. My best friends pit will fight any dog to the death that messes with any of us but wouldn't scratch a person. As for the crazy pits, you will know one from the time it is a puppy. They are just fucked in the head completely and it is noticable. Unfortunately a large number of people that like pits would rather have the deranged ones than the calm ones and breeders try to keep the "crazy" pits breeding with each other.
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damn this is like the 10th pit bull attacking story I've heard in the past couple months..
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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
Yea I'm gonna flame you! Pit bulls are great dogs if you train them right! If you trian them to be mean, they'll be mean, just like any other dog!

My cousins have 4 pitbulls and all their children grew up with the pitbulls! The pitbulls never ONCE attacked anybody! You don't put this type of thing on the dog, it's the owners problem!

Why do alot of pitbulls attack? Because their raised to be fighting dogs, and so when a pitbull is trianed from a pup to be a fighting dog, what is it's instinct? To fight everything!

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hmmmm, 3 year old wanders off on his own, and everyone is pissed at the dog

riiiiight
Shit happens man. My son woke up, climbed out of his playpen, unlocked the door, and walked down the hall at a hotel we were staying at. This was when he was about 18 months old. The 2 hours to call the police and the fact that every yard front and back wasn't searched within 2 minutes of finding him missing is what bothers me. Probably sent him outside to play. (
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I don't know that anyone is to "blame" here. It's easy for a little kid to get out of your sights.
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There have been cases of poodles killing babies. It could have been a German Shepard, a Rot, a Border Collie, a Saint Bernard, ANY dog with a hunting instinct. Add to that the fact that the child wandered into the dog's backyard and you just have a bad, bad situation. It's a tragic situation but I don't think you can single out a particular dog breed, and it's only when a Pit is involved that it makes these kinds of headlines.
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Exactly, where the fuck was the parent! Isn't that bad parenting? I know that if I have a 3, 4, 5 yr old, I'm going to be there, and not let him/her go wondering off outside!

Where the fuck was the parent, and why did it take her 2 hrs to call cops?

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How come the three year old was fucking by himself?
Why did it take the mom two hours to call police?
If a dog is attacking somebody they will be lots of nosie where was everyone? Its the moms fucken fault. There I said it, someone had to
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damn this is like the 10th pit bull attacking story I've heard in the past couple months..
But notice that none of the news reports any other type of dogs attacking! You can't tell me that there weren't ANY other dog attacks by different breeds!

Hell, I'd rather have a pitbull than a chow chow! They are even worse!

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I don't think you can blame the mother either, unless she was negligent. Kids who can walk can slip out of your sight.

Sometimes shit just happens, VERY sad for the family

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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
I'm with you on this, allthough I don't think they should be exterminated but they are wardogs not pets.

We don't know all the facts but seems like the mother was maybe busy being content for trailertrash.com - didn't notice child being gone for 2 hours? WTF
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Exactly, where the fuck was the parent! Isn't that bad parenting? I know that if I have a 3, 4, 5 yr old, I'm going to be there, and not let him/her go wondering off outside!

Where the fuck was the parent, and why did it take her 2 hrs to call cops?

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You have obviously never spent enough time with little kids.

Just today my roommates little nephew, 3 years old, was over at the house. There were 3 people standing in the living room with him. Yet somehow he ended up in my room playing with me. They're sneaky little buggers.

Shit happens. Life sucks sometimes. Don't always need to place blame on someone. I'm 100% positive that the mother is killing herself inside right now. She'll never forgive herself.
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How come the three year old was fucking by himself?
Why did it take the mom two hours to call police?
If a dog is attacking somebody they will be lots of nosie where was everyone? Its the moms fucken fault. There I said it, someone had to
Hell yea! I agree with you 100%! I would be more of an asshole and sue the police department for stress from the loss of my dog! It's on private property, they had no right to shoot the dog!

I'd be pissed! My dog's in the past were trained that if somebody comes into my place, or into my backyard, to attack!

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But notice that none of the news reports any other type of dogs attacking! You can't tell me that there weren't ANY other dog attacks by different breeds!

Hell, I'd rather have a pitbull than a chow chow! They are even worse!

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yes, Chows are much worse temperament wise. imho so are German Shepards, Dobies, St. Bernards and several other breeds, but I'll bet you there are 50 Pits in the US for every single chow, so there are going to be more incidents involving Pits.

I think Pits might be the most common dog in the US now that I think about it, except for labs maybe..
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How come the three year old was fucking by himself?
Why did it take the mom two hours to call police?
If a dog is attacking somebody they will be lots of nosie where was everyone? Its the moms fucken fault. There I said it, someone had to
What he said, its not like the kid was a teenager. A 3 year old missing for 2 minutes is too long!
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and it's only when a Pit is involved that it makes these kinds of headlines.
I dunno..I think a baby mauled to death by a dog would atleast get a headline regardless of the breed. Heck, when I was in vegas the media wouldn't shut up about the lady that was attacked by a mountain lion.
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There have been cases of poodles killing babies. It could have been a German Shepard
when i was six i was attacked by a german shepard. got 13 stitches in the back of my head to show for it....
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You have obviously never spent enough time with little kids.

Just today my roommates little nephew, 3 years old, was over at the house. There were 3 people standing in the living room with him. Yet somehow he ended up in my room playing with me. They're sneaky little buggers.

Shit happens. Life sucks sometimes. Don't always need to place blame on someone. I'm 100% positive that the mother is killing herself inside right now. She'll never forgive herself.
I understand that, but in the afternoon and you don't see your kid for 2 hrs! I can understand if it is night time and they craw out of their bed, but in the middle of the day?

I've lived with young kids before and know how it is! I lived with my little cousin, he was 2 or 3 at the time, and we put a high lock on the door that none of the kids could reach at all!

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damn this is like the 10th pit bull attacking story I've heard in the past couple months..
Where I live at least, labradors lead the biting statistics. Hunting dog, potentially fearful, and people mistakenly think they're all gentle so they don't train them right. Labs biting people doesn't make good news though.

Also, any dog that is tied up actually gets more vicious because it feels like it is restricted if danger happens (fight or flight), regardless of breed.

But I think Sly's attitude is the best... it's just one of those (unfortunate) things.
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i'm not going to flame you, but i've known two pitbulls with two different owners who were really nice pets, and not at all vicious.

they were protective and loving and related more to their people than other dogs. that is what makes it easy to distort their natures. one was my old next door neighbor's dog - a pitbull named patches.

what i think should be illegal is the average person trainging a dog to be vicious. pitbulls, chows and dobies are victims of this kind of training. it sucks!

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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
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I understand that, but in the afternoon and you don't see your kid for 2 hrs! I can understand if it is night time and they craw out of their bed, but in the middle of the day?

In the middle of the day they're taking naps. Uh, hello.
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yes, Chows are much worse temperament wise. imho so are German Shepards, Dobies, St. Bernards and several other breeds, but I'll bet you there are 50 Pits in the US for every single chow, so there are going to be more incidents involving Pits.

I think Pits might be the most common dog in the US now that I think about it, except for labs maybe..
But you can't tell me that there are 50 Pits for every German Shepards or Labs! I've never seen a pit any where I lived! I've seen more German Shepards & Labs than anything else!

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Old 01-14-2004, 03:54 PM   #36
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when i was six i was attacked by a german shepard. got 13 stitches in the back of my head to show for it....
ANY dog can be dangerous. There need to be more laws governing who can have pets and who can't imho, or at least some kind of serious licensing procedure. The bane of the Pit Bull is baby gangsters who think having a Pit makes them look tougher, or people that just aren't capable of raising a dangerous animal in a responsible manner.
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Old 01-14-2004, 03:54 PM   #37
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Yea the more I think about it, the police need to check the mom for drugs or some shit. She may have been high on some shit and didnt come down enough to realize that the kid was gone.

Thats really irresponsible.
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Old 01-14-2004, 03:55 PM   #38
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In the middle of the day they're taking naps. Uh, hello.
Yea, take a nap while your kid is just running around!

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Old 01-14-2004, 03:57 PM   #39
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I dunno..I think a baby mauled to death by a dog would atleast get a headline regardless of the breed. Heck, when I was in vegas the media wouldn't shut up about the lady that was attacked by a mountain lion.
There was a moutian lion attack out here in Lake Forest! THEY SHOT THE FUCKING LION!

I figure if you wonder in the wilderness, you have the risk of becoming food! You can't fucking put a blame on the mountian lion!

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Old 01-14-2004, 03:57 PM   #40
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Yea, take a nap while your kid is just running around!

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Do you have reading comprehension troubles?

Every kid under the age of 5 that I've ever known takes naps in the afternoon.
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Old 01-14-2004, 03:58 PM   #41
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panning over the sight of a pitbull will a babys bootie hanging out of its mouth.....

then the anouncer: Tell your husband that you didnt hear your child getting attacked by the neighbors pitbull because you were smoking pot....he'll understand"
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Old 01-14-2004, 03:59 PM   #42
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Do you have reading comprehension troubles?

Every kid under the age of 5 that I've ever known takes naps in the afternoon.
Most kids take naps! But still, the mother should've been more careful! The blame is on her over any other person!

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I don't know that anyone is to "blame" here. It's easy for a little kid to get out of your sights.
A two year old boy dissappeared three days ago in Bellingham, WA. he just learned how to open doors and was last seen in a diaper walking towards the river (why the fuck the person that seen him didnt snatch the child up is beyond me)..they followed the footprints to the river and gave up the serach yesterday.

Kids slip off all the time..I still sleep in my living room cause my child used to slip out of windows and doors in the middle of the night... one of these days i might learn to sleep soundly..when the child turns 18.
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very true, kids can get past you....
but you YOURSELF took the responsibility to do something about it...granted you sleep in the living room but that was your decision on solving a concern....bravo.....
why do i feel that this mother wasnt even paying attention...probably talking on the phone or watching jerry springer, or some other trash programing.....

lets hear what the mother was doing......or wasnt doing
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When my girls were that age, my front door was dead bolted at all times with a chain on the door and both my backyard gates to the front yard where locked.
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I'm not one to say any certain breed of dog is worse than the other.. I had a Chow that was the best dog I've ever had, She wouldn't hurt a fly..in fact I had a golden Retriever that was worse than the chow..

But people that have dogs that are vicious need to be held to the full extent of the law if their dogs attacks some one... If the dog kills someone then I think the owner should face murder charges.. Then maybe these assholes will take the responsibility with these dogs that they require..

It's BS to say it's the kids fault.. If the owner of the dog knew it was a mean dog, it should be their responsibility to keep the dog in an area kids can't get too.. seems it must not have been that caged up if a young kid got to it
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I'm not one to say any certain breed of dog is worse than the other.. I had a Chow that was the best dog I've ever had, She wouldn't hurt a fly..in fact I had a golden Retriever that was worse than the chow..

But people that have dogs that are vicious need to be held to the full extent of the law if their dogs attacks some one... If the dog kills someone then I think the owner should face murder charges.. Then maybe these assholes will take the responsibility with these dogs that they require..

It's BS to say it's the kids fault.. If the owner of the dog knew it was a mean dog, it should be their responsibility to keep the dog in an area kids can't get too.. seems it must not have been that caged up if a young kid got to it
The dog was in the BACK yard, the kid wondered in to somebody elses backyard! It is the mothers fault!

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it's both peoples fault IMO.. the parents ofcourse for not watching their kid.. but how the hell did a 2 year old kid get into a fenced area? simple the fence sucked or the gate wasn't locked..
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it's both peoples fault IMO.. the parents ofcourse for not watching their kid.. but how the hell did a 2 year old kid get into a fenced area? simple the fence sucked or the gate wasn't locked..
This is true.. when you have Pits you need to make sure nothing can get in OR out. Anything that comes into your yard with them in it is in serious jeopardy.
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Old 01-14-2004, 04:54 PM   #50
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how sad. i fucking hate pit bulls, that breed should be completely phased out. too many times do you hear about these dogs mauling or killing someone.

i'm sure someone will flame me in their defense but those damned dogs should not be kept as housepets at all.
I had a pitbull for over 6 years. Its not the breed its the person who owns the dog is the problem. "do not punish the breed its the deed" My pitbull slept with my young sons at the time ages 4 and 5. She died because of an illness 1 year ago.. She would never harm a fly. Honestly pitbulls have such bad raps but, that is so untrue about the pitbull. They love people its people that fuck them up.

That applies to anyone having a dog , if you teach it to be mean and vicious it will be but, if your loving then the animal whatever breed will be loving back
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