Who Elects our Politicians, Us or the Media? - GoFuckYourself.com

Digipimp · 01-14-2004, 09:53 AM

Don't you think the media attention given to certain candidates plays a huge role in who might get elected. Does it have more influence than the average vote of the common person? We have a democrat primary running right now yet you'll barely hear about anyone other than Howard Dean and how he's in the lead and well on the way to winning. Sure you hear a little about the others but when you hear about them, you hear why are they running, will they vote for Dean when he wins and so on. Rarely do they ask them about the issues, but more about their opinion of their so called leader.

We know it had to have an effect in the last presidential election when they started annoucing King George the winner before polls were closed in many places. So what effect does the media really have on who gets elected. I think it just might be much more than we should be comfortable with.

Ross · 01-14-2004, 09:55 AM

The media has a very strong position over here in the UK. They can make you or break you. They brainwash the country to vote for the person they want to win.

I don't vote.

basschick · 01-14-2004, 10:01 AM

the media. look at the california gov election. all SORTS of people voted for arnold - when i asked them why, basically it boiled down to the fact that he was famous. people feel like they know celebs or candidates with lots of media hype because they see them in movies and tv - and that seems to be enough to make them vote for them.

i know people who would never have voted for arnold - or even voted at all - if he wasn't ARNOLD, the terminator. pretty sad.

BobChezule · 01-14-2004, 10:05 AM

Without a doubt the media elects our president. Basically, whoever they choose to get behind becomes the leading candidate. In the 2002 presidential election candidate Gore was presented as an idiot and asshole in the press, claiming he invented the internet (he only claimed that he helped fund the development of it, which he did) and other such insanities. Bush was made fun of, but not as viciously as Gore (I'm a democrat so I may be slightly biased).

The point about the California election is a good one. I live in California and Arnold was clearly elected because of his fame. It might be a good thing though because he has a lot of sway now and this state needs some serous help.

dig420 · 01-14-2004, 10:39 AM

the media, but only because of the gullibility of certain sectors of the American populace. People like 12dicks and therooster.

Remember: Saddam has wmd's, he's closely tied to Al-Queda, Clinton had Foster killed, Bush stands for freedom and the American Way and you don't have to worry about the Patriot Act unless you're a traitor.

Oh yeah, Bush is a war hero and more patriotic than John McCain.

Thrawn$ · 01-14-2004, 10:41 AM

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BigFish · 01-14-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
the media, but only because of the gullibility of certain sectors of the American populace. People like 12dicks and therooster.

Remember: Saddam has wmd's, he's closely tied to Al-Queda, Clinton had Foster killed, Bush stands for freedom and the American Way and you don't have to worry about the Patriot Act unless you're a traitor.

Oh yeah, Bush is a war hero and more patriotic than John McCain.

Last time i checked, it was the Media that spewed out everything that you just wrote in your sarcastic sentence.

Undutchable · 01-14-2004, 10:54 AM

Ask Noam Chomsky this question

dig420 · 01-14-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by BigFish

Last time i checked, it was the Media that spewed out everything that you just wrote in your sarcastic sentence.

only if you consider Fox 'News' as media instead of what it really is, propaganda for weak minded people looking for something, anything to believe in....

ytcracker · 01-14-2004, 11:41 AM

the illuminati

basschick · 01-14-2004, 11:45 AM

BobChezule, as a democrat, why would you think arnold having a say is useful? he has zero financial experience on a government level, and in fact no government experience at all. all his political affiliations are republicans.

i haven't seen him do anything that made california better off than it was before him. did i miss something?

axelcat · 01-14-2004, 11:47 AM

I agree you put it in its right place

MegaPussy · 01-14-2004, 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by Ross
The media has a very strong position over here in the UK. They can make you or break you. They brainwash the country to vote for the person they want to win.

I don't vote.

The difference is that in the UK all candidates get equal airtime, as sanctioned by the government. Also, comparing a parliamentary system to our democratic republic is a little unbalanced, the president here doesn't even have to answer to his own auditors without a judge forcing him, the Prime Minister of the UK has to answer to parliament once a WEEK.

- Titus

MegaPussy · 01-14-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by basschick
BobChezule, as a democrat, why would you think arnold having a say is useful? he has zero financial experience on a government level, and in fact no government experience at all. all his political affiliations are republicans.

i haven't seen him do anything that made california better off than it was before him. did i miss something?

A relative of mine works for a special interest group in CA. She said that when Arnold took office he immediately tried to overturn legislation that he didn't like. Only then did he realize he doesn't have the power to do that, only the state legislature does. He can screw around with the budget and underfund things he doesn't like, but that's about it. You can't just repeal things you don't care for. So, as you can see, he truly entered office with NO idea what a governor was supposed/allowed to do.

- Titus

loverboy · 01-14-2004, 11:50 AM

indeed, media has strong role in getting some politicians in their seats. TV advertisement alone can surely influeze some votes.

Digipimp · 01-14-2004, 11:50 AM

If we can pull together to form things like the IMPA and so on, why can't we form an adult special interest group that can lobby for legislation that's good for America and the biz together? Why wouldn't this work, so much money in the adult biz, why not work on pooling it and organizing, as a whole the adult biz controls a huge chunk of online media, some print and video as well. Why not get proactive and form a collective to protect our interests, while protecting children, first amendments rights and so on all together?

Where are some heavy hitters in the industry that would want this, or are we all collectively too selfish to put anything together and just fight for scraps with each others while others organize to bring us down?

AvanteGuard · 01-14-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by basschick
the media. look at the california gov election. all SORTS of people voted for arnold - when i asked them why, basically it boiled down to the fact that he was famous. people feel like they know celebs or candidates with lots of media hype because they see them in movies and tv - and that seems to be enough to make them vote for them.

i know people who would never have voted for arnold - or even voted at all - if he wasn't ARNOLD, the terminator. pretty sad.

I voted for arnold because he has so much fucking money no one would be able to buy him out...he wouldn't whore himself out like davis did.

Rich · 01-14-2004, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by BobChezule
the 2002 presidential election

01-14-2004, 09:53 AM	#1
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	Who Elects our Politicians, Us or the Media? Don't you think the media attention given to certain candidates plays a huge role in who might get elected. Does it have more influence than the average vote of the common person? We have a democrat primary running right now yet you'll barely hear about anyone other than Howard Dean and how he's in the lead and well on the way to winning. Sure you hear a little about the others but when you hear about them, you hear why are they running, will they vote for Dean when he wins and so on. Rarely do they ask them about the issues, but more about their opinion of their so called leader. We know it had to have an effect in the last presidential election when they started annoucing King George the winner before polls were closed in many places. So what effect does the media really have on who gets elected. I think it just might be much more than we should be comfortable with. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

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basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	the media. look at the california gov election. all SORTS of people voted for arnold - when i asked them why, basically it boiled down to the fact that he was famous. people feel like they know celebs or candidates with lots of media hype because they see them in movies and tv - and that seems to be enough to make them vote for them. i know people who would never have voted for arnold - or even voted at all - if he wasn't ARNOLD, the terminator. pretty sad. __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

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01-14-2004, 11:45 AM	#11
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	BobChezule, as a democrat, why would you think arnold having a say is useful? he has zero financial experience on a government level, and in fact no government experience at all. all his political affiliations are republicans. i haven't seen him do anything that made california better off than it was before him. did i miss something? __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

01-14-2004, 09:55 AM	#2
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	The media has a very strong position over here in the UK. They can make you or break you. They brainwash the country to vote for the person they want to win. I don't vote.

01-14-2004, 10:05 AM	#4
BobChezule Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New York Posts: 779	Without a doubt the media elects our president. Basically, whoever they choose to get behind becomes the leading candidate. In the 2002 presidential election candidate Gore was presented as an idiot and asshole in the press, claiming he invented the internet (he only claimed that he helped fund the development of it, which he did) and other such insanities. Bush was made fun of, but not as viciously as Gore (I'm a democrat so I may be slightly biased). The point about the California election is a good one. I live in California and Arnold was clearly elected because of his fame. It might be a good thing though because he has a lot of sway now and this state needs some serous help.

01-14-2004, 10:39 AM	#5
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	the media, but only because of the gullibility of certain sectors of the American populace. People like 12dicks and therooster. Remember: Saddam has wmd's, he's closely tied to Al-Queda, Clinton had Foster killed, Bush stands for freedom and the American Way and you don't have to worry about the Patriot Act unless you're a traitor. Oh yeah, Bush is a war hero and more patriotic than John McCain.

01-14-2004, 10:54 AM	#8
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01-14-2004, 11:47 AM	#12
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	I agree you put it in its right place

01-14-2004, 11:50 AM	#15
loverboy When it rains, it pours Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20,609	indeed, media has strong role in getting some politicians in their seats. TV advertisement alone can surely influeze some votes.