For the programs that settled with Acacia - GoFuckYourself.com

FreeHugeMovies · 01-13-2004, 11:09 AM

Are you webmasters still sending them traffic? Did anyone pull links add links to your site? Knowing that if all the cash programs settled with them, they would go after all of the TGP and MGP owners as well.

Do you promote the programs who are fighting Acacia knowing they are trying to help the smaller guys in the business like the TGP and MGP owners in the world.

FreeHugeMovies · 01-13-2004, 12:58 PM

Guess no companies who settled want to bump this. lol

twistyneck · 01-13-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by FreeHugeMovies
Guess no companies who settled want to bump this. lol

Can't say that I blame them. I pull links to any sponsor that has settled and I actively encourage others to do the same. Although I don't really use sponsors much, I am putting up ads for companies that are fighting them (Lightspeed, Holio, etc).

machinegunkelly · 01-13-2004, 01:14 PM

What do possibly know about this acacia thing ?

Im sure you'd sign faster than they did if you were served .

They protect their business .. the smart thing to do .

FreeHugeMovies · 01-13-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by machinegunkelly
What do possibly know about this acacia thing ?

Im sure you'd sign faster than they did if you were served .

They protect their business .. the smart thing to do .

What good is protecting your business if you allow them to sue all the fucking webmasters who send you traffic? Then we all get sued and the cash companies make even more money while we pay a % royalty to Acacia.

Ben-MensNiche · 01-13-2004, 01:47 PM

Most of the companies that have signed have agreed on a contract that has a clause protecting their webmasters not requiring that they pay license fees for the ability to be an affiliate.

It was mostly a scare tactic for the big companies I think. They tried to foce the big boys to sign - the big boys said GFY! so they went after the source of their income and scared the source into submission. The webmasters started pulling their links meaning that profits dropped - Acacia is winning the battle by any means they can come up with to do so. The only way that anyone could have won this battle is for *everyone* to tell Acacia where to go and how to get there. I imagine most of the big boys signed a 1x license fee rather than an ongoing percentage in which case, the easiest way to beat Acacia now is for EVERYONE to actually sign with the sites that signed with Acacia for a one time license fee giving them nobody else to go after and no further income. With nobody left to go after, what will they do? Then we can step out and fight the patent without any fear of recourse.

Most of the smaller webmasters pulled their links at the first thought of getting sued, which affected the traffic to the sites of pornbucks et al. Served with the prospect of making no money due to having no affiliates, or paying a portion of their profits to these extortionists, what would you do? You'd rather make *some* money than none at all, right? I would - that's what business is about.

Before you make judgement against these companies, think about the solution instead of bad mouthing the companies that are looking out for their best interests. This situation can still be beat, it just needs us to work together to come up with a solution.

machinegunkelly · 01-13-2004, 01:54 PM

Okay ..
if I am wrong about this whole thing lemme know , I dont spend much time about it all .

The way I see it , acacia research company doesnt research ANYThing except patents . they purchased the patent in question and are liscencing people under the terms of the patent .

Now , they are telling companies you can liscence now , and get away with just a % on your gross ,

OR you can wait it out and get hella fucked if they do indeed hold the proper patent . or their patents are proven false and everyone goes home .

So , if they do own the patents . these companies are protected AND the affiliates would get sued anyway in the end ,

Am I way way off ( its possible )
I ask for clarification in my other thread .

01-13-2004, 11:09 AM	#1
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	For the programs that settled with Acacia Are you webmasters still sending them traffic? Did anyone pull links add links to your site? Knowing that if all the cash programs settled with them, they would go after all of the TGP and MGP owners as well. Do you promote the programs who are fighting Acacia knowing they are trying to help the smaller guys in the business like the TGP and MGP owners in the world.

01-13-2004, 01:14 PM	#4
machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	What do possibly know about this acacia thing ? Im sure you'd sign faster than they did if you were served . They protect their business .. the smart thing to do . __________________ dead.

01-13-2004, 01:47 PM	#6
Ben-MensNiche Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 726	Most of the companies that have signed have agreed on a contract that has a clause protecting their webmasters not requiring that they pay license fees for the ability to be an affiliate. It was mostly a scare tactic for the big companies I think. They tried to foce the big boys to sign - the big boys said GFY! so they went after the source of their income and scared the source into submission. The webmasters started pulling their links meaning that profits dropped - Acacia is winning the battle by any means they can come up with to do so. The only way that anyone could have won this battle is for everyone to tell Acacia where to go and how to get there. I imagine most of the big boys signed a 1x license fee rather than an ongoing percentage in which case, the easiest way to beat Acacia now is for EVERYONE to actually sign with the sites that signed with Acacia for a one time license fee giving them nobody else to go after and no further income. With nobody left to go after, what will they do? Then we can step out and fight the patent without any fear of recourse. Most of the smaller webmasters pulled their links at the first thought of getting sued, which affected the traffic to the sites of pornbucks et al. Served with the prospect of making no money due to having no affiliates, or paying a portion of their profits to these extortionists, what would you do? You'd rather make some money than none at all, right? I would - that's what business is about. Before you make judgement against these companies, think about the solution instead of bad mouthing the companies that are looking out for their best interests. This situation can still be beat, it just needs us to work together to come up with a solution. __________________ ICQ: 310539245 Email: [email protected]

01-13-2004, 01:54 PM	#7
machinegunkelly Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 3,285	Okay .. if I am wrong about this whole thing lemme know , I dont spend much time about it all . The way I see it , acacia research company doesnt research ANYThing except patents . they purchased the patent in question and are liscencing people under the terms of the patent . Now , they are telling companies you can liscence now , and get away with just a % on your gross , OR you can wait it out and get hella fucked if they do indeed hold the proper patent . or their patents are proven false and everyone goes home . So , if they do own the patents . these companies are protected AND the affiliates would get sued anyway in the end , Am I way way off ( its possible ) I ask for clarification in my other thread . __________________ dead.

01-13-2004, 12:58 PM	#2
FreeHugeMovies Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 14,137	Guess no companies who settled want to bump this. lol