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blackmonsters 01-11-2004 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
i kinda think anyone thinking LONG TERM in this industry is into non-trials.

trials are designed by nature to trick someone into paying more than they thought they would pay. It's a marketing method designed on deception. Who the fuck would really agree to pay $49.99? that surfer only thought they were gona pay $1.99 - and then forgot to cancel. by the time the credit card bill reaches them you usually get the initial and 2 rebills - for $102 a client - on something they only wanted to pay $1.99 for. - it's sooo close to fraud you might as well call it fraud.

does fraud pay? - you better believe it does. but it's not a long term business model as visa's new 1% rules now show. And it shows NO RESPECT for the surfer (your client) whatsoever.


there are a few companies that havnt' had trials EVER, and they did VERY well. Streamray, AFF, and quiet are a few to mention off the top of my head.

Solid Proof that you don't have to be a THEIF to make good money in this business.

So true.

I have no idea why other webmasters just don't get it. It seems so obvious to me. But whatever; I'll just join your shit and fuck everybody else.

alejo 01-11-2004 09:15 PM

We don't have trials. :)

www.lotsofmovies.com/partners/

seven 01-11-2004 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker
We put trial in ever December /january to help keep a decent volume of new members joining - But it is always the same - Trials to retentions go through the floor.
Offer a 10-12 days trial. 10 days should be enough for those trials to see the constant updates. So you can then get those members that would otherwise signup for no-trials + the skeptical ones may then rebill too + extra money from a high priced longer period trial.

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Probably conversions for us when we use the trial is around 20%
33% is the industry average from trial to month. If you are over that you are doing good, if you are under you're doing not so good. So maybe just try a more expensive trial/longer period.

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When we don't use the trial, it increases to between 50-60%.
Ofcourse! Trials to month is the hardest, once you got month, to next month is easier. As the matter of fact month to month should be a bit better for signup that came from trial.

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The only trial I offer is a 18.95 30 day trial that rebills at 29.95, surfers see that only if they exit my join page.
Good new idea :thumbsup except do that 18.95 for 2 weeks trial maybe otherwise, members may cancel thinking to rejoin to save money then just forget to rejoin :(

blackmonsters 01-11-2004 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by seven

Good new idea :thumbsup except do that 18.95 for 2 weeks trial maybe otherwise, members may cancel thinking to rejoin to save money then just forget to rejoin :(

No matter what you say you know that full price is better.
The only reason you aint so hot on BOB right now is because 900 Gazillion webmasters are promoting it. With BOB there is actually a competition for the sign up. The surfer can signup anywhere so the trick is keeping then on your site to sign up and this is hard when you are trading traffic.

If you were the only webmaster promoting BOB you wouldn't even try to talk about trials...you'd be too busy counting your money!!!

You know it.

quiet 01-11-2004 09:39 PM

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Originally posted by alejo
We don't have trials. :)

www.lotsofmovies.com/partners/

nice looking site.

EscortBiz 01-11-2004 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters


No matter what you say you know that full price is better.
The only reason you aint so hot on BOB right now is because 900 Gazillion webmasters are promoting it. With BOB there is actually a competition for the sign up. The surfer can signup anywhere so the trick is keeping then on your site to sign up and this is hard when you are trading traffic.

If you were the only webmaster promoting BOB you wouldn't even try to talk about trials...you'd be too busy counting your money!!!

You know it.

http://www.exler.ru/films/images/20-09-2000/1.jpg

seven 01-11-2004 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
If you were the only webmaster promoting BOB you wouldn't even try to talk about trials...you'd be too busy counting your money!!!
Believe it or not I'm usually still pretty busy counting my money :winkwink: A minute part of it still comes from BOB too :) This is the longest I ever hung out on gfy making me look not busy huh? But look at the small # of my posts.. No it's not cos there are million webmasters promoting BOB, as the matter of fact, I see much fewer promoting it now then when I was hitting it hard. What killed BOB's sales for me are sites like the one in my sig, monstersofcocks.com, blackbroswhitehoes.com, 24 inches of pain etc. just to name a few.. not to mention the fact that BOB couldn't use that disputed content they were using before. Good Interracial sites are not so rare anymore so it's simply harder to sell BOB's 1 month but sure still can be done. Also, # of initial to rebill wasn't extraordinary with BOB but # of months for each members that went for rebills was amazing but so it is prolly for most niched original sites. I would like to see a trial added to BOB only if it had much more content than it did in the past and a real archive for movies, otherwise, BOB's better off with 1 month cos for a good # trials to rebill may require more.

Do I still know it? :Graucho

dig420 01-11-2004 10:59 PM

darkcavern.com will soon be open for reseller traffic :)

MejOn 01-11-2004 11:16 PM

GreenDollars.com for your shemale and gay traffic:thumbsup
Rigth now I do very well on their sites without trials.

blackmonsters 01-11-2004 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by seven

Believe it or not I'm usually still pretty busy counting my money :winkwink: A minute part of it still comes from BOB too :) This is the longest I ever hung out on gfy making me look not busy huh? But look at the small # of my posts.. No it's not cos there are million webmasters promoting BOB, as the matter of fact, I see much fewer promoting it now then when I was hitting it hard. What killed BOB's sales for me are sites like the one in my sig, monstersofcocks.com, blackbroswhitehoes.com, 24 inches of pain etc. just to name a few.. not to mention the fact that BOB couldn't use that disputed content they were using before. Good Interracial sites are not so rare anymore so it's simply harder to sell BOB's 1 month but sure still can be done. Also, # of initial to rebill wasn't extraordinary with BOB but # of months for each members that went for rebills was amazing but so it is prolly for most niched original sites. I would like to see a trial added to BOB only if it had much more content than it did in the past and a real archive for movies, otherwise, BOB's better off with 1 month cos for a good # trials to rebill may require more.

Do I still know it? :Graucho

Ahh quit it.

You probably own those sites you are talking about so that shit don't count. I don't own BOB so I'm impartial.

woj 01-11-2004 11:21 PM

50 programs not using trials

seven 01-11-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
Ahh quit it.

You probably own those sites you are talking about so that shit don't count. I don't own BOB so I'm impartial.

So you are saying I own jasonandalex.com, bangbros.com, triplex.com, SICcash.com all of 'em? lol. You are a very funny man!

quiet 01-11-2004 11:38 PM

i tried trials several years ago, had almost no impact on su's. i'd be fucking crazy to use them. i know of other sites (large ones) that have seen the same thing.

it all depends on the type of site, the way it's marketed, pricing, etc.

there is plenty of room for non-trial sites. beyond obvious. but here's to pointless arguing...

blackmonsters 01-11-2004 11:41 PM

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Originally posted by seven

So you are saying I own jasonandalex.com, bangbros.com, triplex.com, SICcash.com all of 'em? lol. You are a very funny man!

You talk so much that your are no longer "seven" you are now "eight".

Be quiet so I can get drunk.
And you don't even sign up for my program so that's why I aint doing no trials.
If you tried my program in my sig then you would see that I have a good plan.


:)

421Fill 01-11-2004 11:41 PM

We don't use trials. http://www.hometowncash.com :)

quiet 01-11-2004 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
If you tried my program in my sig
what program is that? i keep sigs turned off...

blackmonsters 01-11-2004 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by woj
50 programs not using trials
Why do people do this?

blackmonsters 01-11-2004 11:46 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


what program is that? i keep sigs turned off...

I told "seven" to be you, so now you go be seven so I can watch tv.

OMG! some bitched just screamed out like someone is killing her.
I gotta go chek this out.

seven 01-12-2004 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
And you don't even sign up for my program so that's why I aint doing no trials. If you tried my program in my sig then you would see that I have a good plan.
Your site looks impressive, too tired to signup now will do later maybe. You drew all those toons yourself?
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i tried trials several years ago, had almost no impact on su's. i'd be fucking crazy to use them.
I didn't mean it for you cos:
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it all depends on the type of site, the way it's marketed, pricing, etc.
:winkwink:

Just ranked 1 of your galleries higher. As always, some ultra nice clips :)

blackmonsters 01-12-2004 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by seven

:winkwink:

Just ranked 1 of your galleries higher. As always, some ultra nice clips :)

I don't do all the toons myself but I do a lot of them.

Man I'm tired. I gotta get some shut eye.

I'm out.

Pornwolf 01-12-2004 12:50 AM

Quiet, I gotta say your site converts like a mofo! I've only been promoting it for a couple of months but from what I noticed I'm getting a 1:190 conversion rate and a near 95% rebill rate on TGP traffic! :thumbsup

SleazyDream 01-12-2004 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
Quiet, I gotta say your site converts like a mofo! I've only been promoting it for a couple of months but from what I noticed I'm getting a 1:190 conversion rate and a near 95% rebill rate on TGP traffic! :thumbsup
interesting as quiet's always said he doesn't use the affiliate model.......


maybe I'm wrong....

psyko514 01-12-2004 01:22 AM

a1ka1ine.com doesn't have trials.

psyko514 01-12-2004 01:28 AM

neither does <a href="http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clicks.cgi?CA=915437-0000&PA=569220&HTML=http://www.panchodog.com/">Panchodog.com</a>

quiet 01-12-2004 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


interesting as quiet's always said he doesn't use the affiliate model.......


maybe I'm wrong....

you are correct.

yellowmenace 01-12-2004 01:33 AM

hello,

MeatCash doesn't offer trials. We don't need it.

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Cash 01-12-2004 02:19 AM

Official pornstar sites - 60% recurring has the option of trials or non-trials or even half-month memberships ... you can switch them inside the webmaster stats area as often as you wish.

Pornwolf 01-12-2004 02:39 AM

I'm sorry. I forgot I was supposed to keep my mouth shut about it. It won't happen again.

99bb 01-12-2004 03:19 AM

99bb doesn't have trials.

We are also bringing out a new broadband movie site in the next month or so geared more towards the Western Market. This will definitely be worth promoting, and it wont have trials :)

quiet 01-12-2004 04:00 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
I'm sorry. I forgot I was supposed to keep my mouth shut about it. It won't happen again.
:)

Kicker 01-12-2004 05:37 AM

http://www.jk-network.net/

you can turn off trials

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