The truth why sponsors signed the license agreement with Acacia. - GoFuckYourself.com

Quotealex · 01-09-2004, 09:08 AM

Those that did signed did it out of greed, and not to protect their affiliates. They only want to eliminate competition and restrict our choice of sponsors we can send our traffic to.

rooster · 01-09-2004, 09:10 AM

true. big guys like hustler could care less about all these pattent things. Because all of them will give a sweet deal to big guys like them to give credibility to it.

The next 3 years there is going to be alot of very dirty business as the consolidation and weeding out process happens.

Quotealex · 01-09-2004, 10:49 AM

In case some of you haven't seen this letter from Acacia:

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Thank you for responding to our Final Notice letter on or before the November 30th deadline. Due to our delay in responding to you, we will still make available our pre-November 30th royalty rates, provided that you elect to enter into a license agreement with Acacia at this time.

Our records indicate that you send traffic to one or more websites not licensed by Acacia that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing. For this activity described above, you are potentially liable for patent infringement and need a license from Acacia.

Please note that if you only send traffic to other websites that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing, and do not otherwise provide access to digital audio/video content on your website, you may avoid entering into a license with Acacia by sending (or redirecting) traffic to websites that are licensed by Acacia. You may find a current list of our licensed sponsors at http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/xxxxxxxxxxx

If you desire to continue to send traffic to unlicensed sponsors, we are willing to offer you an annual prepaid royalty based on two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the immediately preceding twelve (12) month period during the term. The term of the License Agreement will begin on July 1, 2003. The royalty due for the first royalty period of July 1, 2003 through June 30, 2004 is two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the period of July 1, 2002 through June 30, 2003. If you are interested in entering into a license with Acacia at the pre-November 30th royalty rates set forth above, please reply promptly to this email indicating your company name and your gross sales between July 1, 2002 and June 30, 2003. Upon receipt of that information, we will send you the appropriate license agreement for your review and execution.

If you have any questions or need additional information, please feel free to visit our website at www.acaciatechnologies.com. Our website includes copies of our patents, as well as engineering diagrams which illustrate how some of our patent claims apply to the activity mentioned above. These engineering diagrams should address any technical questions you may have regarding our patented technology. To locate the Adult Entertainment section of our website, from our homepage www.acaciatechnologies.com, click on Technology¡úInternet¡ú Adult Entertainment.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,

Karlton C. Butts
V.P. Licensing
Telephone (949) 480-8315
Fax (949) 480-8391
Email: [email protected]

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Hope you can read between the lines!

jigg · 01-09-2004, 10:53 AM

i'm not in the least bit moved by whatever they have deicded. i'll send traffic whever the mood strikes me, and it won't be to sponsors who signed with Acacia

Quotealex · 01-09-2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by jigg
i'm not in the least bit moved by whatever they have deicded. i'll send traffic whever the mood strikes me, and it won't be to sponsors who signed with Acacia

You should be moved. Imagine Acacia ask you to pay an annual fee of $2,000 plus 15% of all the income your site generates because you've used one single sponsors not listed on their list!

FightThisPatent · 01-09-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by Alex from Montreal

You should be moved. Imagine Acacia ask you to pay an annual fee of $2,000 plus 15% of all the income your site generates

Plus, other patent holders like USA Video, who have now said on public record, that those that signed with Acacia could be potential targets.

I just released: Acacia's Partners in Porn:
http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/PornPartners.html

Fight the Replay!

tbabe · 01-09-2004, 11:20 AM

im not boycoting anyone, but im sure a shell not gonna send traffic because acacia says its a good idea. LOL

Zappu · 01-09-2004, 11:23 AM

Alex,
yes it's a shame, but it seems to be the truth. I hope many webmaster will recognize this and will make there descissions out of this fucking letter

nuclei · 01-09-2004, 11:29 AM

Why not just wait til february and see what happens for fucks sakes. If spike and the others win the case Acacia is dead in the water. End of story.

Hammer · 01-09-2004, 11:32 AM

Nothing is going to be decided in February so you can wake up from that pipe dream right now.

Quotealex · 01-09-2004, 11:35 AM

There even one of the sponsors on Acacia list who seems to have invested in that company:

http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=20704
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=19742

And they are telling us they doing it for us

liquidmoe · 01-09-2004, 11:35 AM

It takes months just to get a stupid ass traffic ticket resolved there is no way in hell you are going to see any kind of resolution in February, unless some genius judge just decides to throw out the case before it starts citing Acacia's claims are without merit, but no chance in hell that will happen.

JSA Matt · 01-09-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by nuclei
Why not just wait til february and see what happens for fucks sakes. If spike and the others win the case Acacia is dead in the water. End of story.

I would LOVE to see this happen. All the sponsors that have signed are fucked for life, they have to keep paying if the patent is valid or not.

Zappu · 01-09-2004, 12:26 PM

Regarding webmasters complaining against Dave from Discount Pass Bucks who signed up with Acacia (even he is from Canada!)
You will find this thread at the AWI

Quote:

Platinum Dave
Location: Toronto

Their are bright people that read this board.
I am writing to them.
In business sometimes you have to make tought decisions.
Lets see what happens in the next 6 months.
Will be interesting.

Ludedude · 01-09-2004, 12:35 PM

"It's a business decision." Where have I heard that before?

Mikey · 01-09-2004, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex from Montreal

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Thank you for responding to our Final Notice letter on or before the November 30th deadline. Due to our delay in responding to you, we will still make available our pre-November 30th royalty rates, provided that you elect to enter into a license agreement with Acacia at this time.

Our records indicate that you send traffic to one or more websites not licensed by Acacia that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing. For this activity described above, you are potentially liable for patent infringement and need a license from Acacia.

Please note that if you only send traffic to other websites that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing, and do not otherwise provide access to digital audio/video content on your website, you may avoid entering into a license with Acacia by sending (or redirecting) traffic to websites that are licensed by Acacia. You may find a current list of our licensed sponsors at http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/xxxxxxxxxxx

If you desire to continue to send traffic to unlicensed sponsors, we are willing to offer you an annual prepaid royalty based on two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the immediately preceding twelve (12) month period during the term. The term of the License Agreement will begin on July 1, 2003. The royalty due for the first royalty period of July 1, 2003 through June 30, 2004 is two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the period of July 1, 2002 through June 30, 2003. If you are interested in entering into a license with Acacia at the pre-November 30th royalty rates set forth above, please reply promptly to this email indicating your company name and your gross sales between July 1, 2002 and June 30, 2003. Upon receipt of that information, we will send you the appropriate license agreement for your review and execution.

If you have any questions or need additional information, please feel free to visit our website at www.acaciatechnologies.com. Our website includes copies of our patents, as well as engineering diagrams which illustrate how some of our patent claims apply to the activity mentioned above. These engineering diagrams should address any technical questions you may have regarding our patented technology. To locate the Adult Entertainment section of our website, from our homepage www.acaciatechnologies.com, click on Technology¡úInternet¡ú Adult Entertainment.

We look forward to hearing from you.

How do they know what sites we send traffic to? Their records? You mean to tell me they keep track of the traffic flow of the fuckin web? C'mon.

Quotealex · 01-09-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mikey

How do they know what sites we send traffic to? Their records? You mean to tell me they keep track of the traffic flow of the fuckin web? C'mon.

It not hard at all. All they have to do is go tho your site once, then click of a few links and if one of those links goes to a sponsor not listed on their link, they will make you pay their licensing fee.

FightThisPatent · 01-09-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude
"It's a business decision." Where have I heard that before?

http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/NoComment.html

Fight the Linking!

CDSmith · 01-09-2004, 01:11 PM

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Our records indicate that you send traffic to one or more websites not licensed by Acacia that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing. For this activity described above, you are potentially liable for patent infringement and need a license from Acacia.

Sorry Acacia, no. I will send my traffic anywhere I wish. If you want compensation for your bogus patent you can seek it from those who are making use of the video download media you claim to hold rights to.

Buh-bye.

01-09-2004, 09:08 AM	#1
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	The truth why sponsors signed the license agreement with Acacia. Those that did signed did it out of greed, and not to protect their affiliates. They only want to eliminate competition and restrict our choice of sponsors we can send our traffic to.

01-09-2004, 09:10 AM	#2
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	true. big guys like hustler could care less about all these pattent things. Because all of them will give a sweet deal to big guys like them to give credibility to it. The next 3 years there is going to be alot of very dirty business as the consolidation and weeding out process happens. __________________ Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

01-09-2004, 10:53 AM	#4
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01-09-2004, 11:29 AM	#9
nuclei old school fart Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,015	Why not just wait til february and see what happens for fucks sakes. If spike and the others win the case Acacia is dead in the water. End of story. __________________ The next generation of SEO

01-09-2004, 10:49 AM	#3
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	In case some of you haven't seen this letter from Acacia: ---------------- Thank you for responding to our Final Notice letter on or before the November 30th deadline. Due to our delay in responding to you, we will still make available our pre-November 30th royalty rates, provided that you elect to enter into a license agreement with Acacia at this time. Our records indicate that you send traffic to one or more websites not licensed by Acacia that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing. For this activity described above, you are potentially liable for patent infringement and need a license from Acacia. Please note that if you only send traffic to other websites that provide the digital audio/video content for viewing, and do not otherwise provide access to digital audio/video content on your website, you may avoid entering into a license with Acacia by sending (or redirecting) traffic to websites that are licensed by Acacia. You may find a current list of our licensed sponsors at http://www.acaciatechnologies.com/xxxxxxxxxxx If you desire to continue to send traffic to unlicensed sponsors, we are willing to offer you an annual prepaid royalty based on two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the immediately preceding twelve (12) month period during the term. The term of the License Agreement will begin on July 1, 2003. The royalty due for the first royalty period of July 1, 2003 through June 30, 2004 is two percent (2%) of your actual gross sales for the period of July 1, 2002 through June 30, 2003. If you are interested in entering into a license with Acacia at the pre-November 30th royalty rates set forth above, please reply promptly to this email indicating your company name and your gross sales between July 1, 2002 and June 30, 2003. Upon receipt of that information, we will send you the appropriate license agreement for your review and execution. If you have any questions or need additional information, please feel free to visit our website at www.acaciatechnologies.com. Our website includes copies of our patents, as well as engineering diagrams which illustrate how some of our patent claims apply to the activity mentioned above. These engineering diagrams should address any technical questions you may have regarding our patented technology. To locate the Adult Entertainment section of our website, from our homepage www.acaciatechnologies.com, click on Technology¡úInternet¡ú Adult Entertainment. We look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Karlton C. Butts V.P. Licensing Telephone (949) 480-8315 Fax (949) 480-8391 Email: [email protected] ------------------- Hope you can read between the lines!

01-09-2004, 11:20 AM	#7
tbabe Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,494	im not boycoting anyone, but im sure a shell not gonna send traffic because acacia says its a good idea. LOL

01-09-2004, 11:32 AM	#10
Hammer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 961	Nothing is going to be decided in February so you can wake up from that pipe dream right now. __________________ Porn Site Pros - Custom Website Design, Turnkey Webcam and Pay Sites, SEO, and Consulting

01-09-2004, 11:35 AM	#11
Quotealex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Global Digerati Village Posts: 6,265	There even one of the sponsors on Acacia list who seems to have invested in that company: http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=20704 http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bb...0497&mid=19742 And they are telling us they doing it for us

01-09-2004, 11:35 AM	#12
liquidmoe Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 4,994	It takes months just to get a stupid ass traffic ticket resolved there is no way in hell you are going to see any kind of resolution in February, unless some genius judge just decides to throw out the case before it starts citing Acacia's claims are without merit, but no chance in hell that will happen. __________________ Take Luck!

01-09-2004, 12:35 PM	#15
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	"It's a business decision." Where have I heard that before? __________________