and of course PornKings trials are only $1

Exactly, and you can even write it off as a business investment :)

well that basicly what you outlined in your post you fucking idiot.

:thumbsup

Well if you posted on GFY you could just ask everyone to click through and only x amount are going to join. I've considered this before and if a sponsor wanted to be a dick and kick me out of the program for testing them when they got free money regardless I'd just let everyone know about that also.

Any sponsor that objects to being tested could kiss my ass and my traffic goodbye.

Where?

Once a month everybody who wants to pulls out his cc buys a trial at site through a linking code _made public in a post here_ and someone makes a screengrab and confirms it with the people who bought a trial.

battuss
what you need is a more than a handful of people who
a) can send REAL traffic to a sponsor
b) got a credit card

the rest is no problem...
lmk
i would join

Once again DUH.
This test would start the second its posted here not giving them a notice before that. I thought you would be smart enough to figure that out.

It wouldn't be just 'near impossible' to keep the tested sponsor a secret, it would be completely impossible.

Imagine trying to find 30 webmasters who are not connected to any sponsor whatsoever in any manner at all. Doesn't know someone who works there, hasn't made friends with them on the boards, who hasn't pissed off anyone in a sponsor's organization on the boards, etc.

Trying to keep a secret between 3 people is bad enough in this industry, trying to keep it between 30 unrelated webmasters is a pipe dream.

It really is a good idea, but the way you want to go about it just won't work.
Think more along the lines of what Charly is proposing with his webmaster group. More anonymous and less chance of tipping off the sponsor while they're being tested.

Sounds good. Its just damn hard to get this started as a lot of people here are flaky.

Best would be to have a website where people can apply and say if they want to send traffic or a sign up.

Yes, this is my biggest worry as well.

Then again, people who want to work with me on this are people who hate shaving. It would be weird if they know a program owner who shaves and at the same time participate in this project.

If you're going to announce it publically, there's no reason to even bother doing it.
Sponsors can and do set different shaving levels for different affiliates.
The instant they know they're being tested, they go in and tell the shaver to ignore your account and let everything pass through.

Then we indeed would have to it in private...which makes it less reliable imo.

very good point

Battus, head over to O*prano and read the thread about CCBill exposing shavers.
Nick, Serge and Vick post comments in that re:shaving that are priceless from many different angles. It'll show you just how complex this could be.

For example, would you be tracking where your traffic (because you do have to send traffic not to have 1:1 conversions) is coming from? If not, you could be getting shaved on a certain country or provider's traffic and not even know it because you're not keeping track.

Serge Banned me.