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X37375787 01-07-2004 06:07 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
img src-ing sure is a lot less work though ;-)

We all should do what we're best at. deepsy1 (assuming it's the real deepsy) and Hun could possibly crash the entire internet when forces are joined. :1orglaugh

hanii 01-07-2004 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
img src-ing sure is a lot less work though ;-)
http://www.fusker.com/themes/pb/images/logo.gif

test

Libertine 01-07-2004 06:18 AM

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Originally posted by The Hun
...
Instead of doing something illegal yourself, you might want to put a link to a .htaccess tutorial on your submit page, and contact the host of people you find doing stuff like this.

The only real solution is that webmasters learn to protect themselves, since new sites that hotlink will always pop up again, no matter how many you manage to take down.

The Gallery Girl 01-07-2004 06:19 AM

I got "fuskered" some time ago and I wrote them an email demanding they removed all my pics from their website....got an email back at the same day apologising for the inconvenience and never had any other problems with it.
But when they hotlinked my pics, my bw burned in a blink of an eye and I had to pay extra for my hosting service, so they need to be stopped.

Mikey_219Inc 01-07-2004 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by gin
when they submit to your site .. can't you check if they allow hotlinking or not by just img src='ing 1 of the pics? if they allow hotlinking make it be like "people may be stealling your bandwth blah lah blah send them to a step by step guide how to setup .htaccess.. most prolly just have to mail their host takes 2 secs to setup.. like everyone submits to your site.. so everyone would see it .. if they descide not to do it .. then it's their own money they are loosing.
sounds about like the smartest idea to me. If you have a robust .htaccess file, and list all of these bots and redirect them, then you are gravy.

Hun, one thing you could do is allow webmasters to email you new leechers, or have a submit form in your webmaster area ... and have a reqularly updated cut and paste .htaccess file including all the leeching programs and instructions on how to upload in ascii (for newbies) ...

Its sort of similar to how you inform your surfers about how to get rid of popups and viruses right on your index page, and im sure that some webmaster(s) would volunteer to help you make the initial list of leechers, if you dont already have the list that is.

Mikey

Mikey

.nihilist 01-07-2004 06:37 AM

rawdataserver.com use alot of BW too. Fusker was a problem for a short while but I kindly asked them to remove all my domains and problem solved.

The Hun 01-07-2004 06:41 AM

Mikey, good idea, I'll think about that...

In the mean time: I got an e-mail from one of the leechers:

Quote:

Hi, I saw the post on your forums and I tried to register to post this, but then I noticed you'd emailed my host.

If you have any problems with your site being fuskered, you should have emailed me straight away. If you want me to remove any links just point them out to me and I'll remove them from the database, I can't control what galleries people fusker, it's a completely open system and I'm sorry if it's caused you any problems. If you want to completely block your site from being fuskered, simply put

{Limit GET}
order allow,deny
deny from 66.197.141.53
allow from all
{/Limit}


Into a htaccess, that'll just deny access from the stoppablegolem fusker. There are 2 other fuskers you might want to block too.

http://fusker.lewww.com = 66.98.180.43 http://www.babehunt.org/fusker = 66.37.19.215

In fact, I'm going to post these instructions to the main page later.

Hope that helps.

This is the reply I sent him:

Quote:

Problem is that people have to opt-out of your system. What you're doing is illegal, in effect, you're replacing webmaster's adds with your own, stealing these people's bandwidth. Webmasters in this whole industry will not like that I'm afraid...

In fact, how would you feel if we would drive up your bandwidth by loading your site as an image. Don't worry, you can mail each and every one of us asking to get taken off this img src, or you can add a piece of code on your site to blick every one individually... Does that sound fair? Opt-out is not an option for this. What you're doing is illegal and unethical business wise...

goBigtime 01-07-2004 06:46 AM

Now have Choker give those instructions to everyone in his system and see how fast the guy whoe sent you that kind email gets new IP's to avoid all the blocks.

pussyluver 01-07-2004 07:01 AM

Please comment on thumbgal.com. TheHun I note from screenshots is at the top of their list. Can you effectively block them with .htccess? The program loads on each individual PC that uses the program, thus a different IP...

The Hun 01-07-2004 07:13 AM

Ok, another messages (I'm gone fishing after this ;-):

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I cannot control the content posted by members to fusker outside of normal moderation, I'm sorry you feel this way but threatening to attack fusker isn't going to solve anything, though I can understand your frustration, I've been fuskered myself :) But there are other, bigger fuskers than mine. You can easily add my fusker to your block list, but there's nothing further I can do - you're asking me to destroy fusker, and since my fusker is the smallest fusker it won't even do much good.

I'm not out to damage your traffic or your earnings, I can understand where you and the people on your forum are coming from, as I see it fusker is simply a tool being used by the members - it's no different to an ezcode. I'm not sure why people would feel the need to bypass your pages, it seems to me that fusker is a needless extra layer between user and content, but like I said - you stop fusker with one line of numbers, so please block my server's ip. There will never be a huge amount of fuskers, because the requirements are so high, you need not worry about that. My ads are temporary, and I'll be removing them soon, since they're stupid :)

I will remove your fuskered links if you tell me what they are.
My reply:

Quote:

Fusker is stealing our bandwidth. What do you suggest we do? Sit back and do nothing? The 34 Mbit of traffic burned on people's sites without one single impression on their banners? I don't seem to realise you're stealing from people. You can be assured there are people out there that won't rest till this program is stopped completely or till it is an opt-in system... And honestly, do you really think anybody would opt-in to get their content ripped?
I don't think they realise what they're doing with their program...

TurboAngel 01-07-2004 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Ross
If Deepsy can bring down GFY for a couple of hours I'm sure he can sort out these fuckers.

:glugglug

Mikey_219Inc 01-07-2004 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
Now have Choker give those instructions to everyone in his system and see how fast the guy whoe sent you that kind email gets new IP's to avoid all the blocks.
If there is a submit page on Huns webmaster area for new leecher IPs, as soon as a webmaster sees new leeching, he can go to Huns webmaster area, submit the new ip, and people can update their .htaccess file.

jimmyf 01-07-2004 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Hun
Ok, another messages (I'm gone fishing after this ;-):



I don't think they realise what they're doing with their program...

they realize they just don't care. img scr them fight fire with fire

WebDork 01-07-2004 07:23 AM

Img src their host and see how long their site lasts.

Spunky 01-07-2004 07:25 AM

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Originally posted by WebDork
Img src their host and see how long their site lasts.
Agreed.. :glugglug

Turf 01-07-2004 07:34 AM

i for one vote to take them down the hard way... that way they can get a nice BW bill to help them remember to stop fucking us and stealing our BW!!

i know 2 wrongs doesnt make 1 right, but sometimes you just need to say "fuck it" and do things the dirty way to get your point across!

ThumbGal 01-07-2004 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by pussyluver
Please comment on thumbgal.com. TheHun I note from screenshots is at the top of their list. Can you effectively block them with .htccess? The program loads on each individual PC that uses the program, thus a different IP...
The site and program have been DOA for some time now. I just hadn't taken it offline. Out of respect for The Hun, and other hardworking webmasters, the program and site are no longer available. ThumbGal was done at a time when I was new to Internet porn. I didn't properly think about it's ramifications and once I did, I stopped promoting the site/software and just let it die a slow death. It's completely dead now, and now I move on to other ventures in the online porn realm.
Good day.

pussyluver 01-07-2004 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ThumbGal


The site and program have been DOA for some time now. I just hadn't taken it offline. Out of respect for The Hun, and other hardworking webmasters, the program and site are no longer available. ThumbGal was done at a time when I was new to Internet porn. I didn't properly think about it's ramifications and once I did, I stopped promoting the site/software and just let it die a slow death. It's completely dead now, and now I move on to other ventures in the online porn realm.
Good day.

Thank you for finally closing the site! When I looked this morning, it was still up.

BrainDead 01-07-2004 07:56 AM

picleecher (250,000 pageviews/day) will be taken down soon probably. I think it's only a matter of time now (judging from the host's answer).

The Hun 01-07-2004 08:03 AM

Thank you, well appreciated!

SoundMan 01-07-2004 08:20 AM

Fusker! is dead. Long live fusker.
Fusker.com will no longer be hosting the Fusker! web extractor. However, we have decided to make a version of the code available to all users. If you would like to host your own fusker using our code, just click here. For more information about this software click here. Once you have your fusker up and running let us know and we'll give you a link.


good work..:glugglug

BrainDead 01-07-2004 09:42 AM

okay, picleecher seems to be off now.

I'm not sure if it was the host that took it down though since they haven't responded about that specifically yet

rebel23 01-07-2004 09:57 AM

LOL that guy is an asshole, ive never read so much crap in my life. :1orglaugh

reynold 01-07-2004 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by rebel23
LOL that guy is an asshole, ive never read so much crap in my life. :1orglaugh
you mean the fusker guy?

Dugan 01-07-2004 10:27 AM

good those fuckers have been makin my error logs look like shit for a while now

gornyhuy 01-07-2004 10:38 AM

I love when TheHun turns his attention on a vexing problem like this and suddenly things just start to happen!!!!

What are the other major Leecher programs out there that need to be dealt with?

swedguy 01-07-2004 10:39 AM

http://picleecher.com/

Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.


:glugglug :thumbsup

Weppel 01-07-2004 10:46 AM

I've done a quick look at it, and it seems that they are just ordinary hotlinking the images.

A little thought about it, and i've come up with this easy quick and dirty solution:

If you're building a gallery, do it like this:

domain.com/galleryXXX/images/
domain.com/galleryXXX/thumbs/
domain.com/galleryXXX/graphics/
domain.com/galleryXXX/index.html

In the /images/ directory put an htaccess file with this:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteOptions inherit
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^$
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} !^http://.*domain.com/.*$ [NC]
RewriteRule .*[Jj][Pp][Gg]$|.*[Gg][Ii][Ff]$ http://www.domain-redirect.com

Change the domain.com etc. Should work out just fine, but this is just a temporary solution.

A better solution would be something like a central blocklist of ip's that can be updated by every webmaster out here. But that will require a little bit more programming though :winkwink:

Weppel 01-07-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by swedguy
http://picleecher.com/

Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later.


:glugglug :thumbsup

The site is Error 500 here

MattO 01-07-2004 10:57 AM

one thing I do if I'm not bothering with htaccess is to randomly name the files.

These leech sites use a numbering system to easily pull your pics, like 1-50 and such... if you're namimg the pics in a random way, it's too much of a pain in the ass for them to link hotten you.


Oh, the fusker guy was on GFY a few days back:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=216204

powerbubba 01-07-2004 11:18 AM

I had a problem with the original developer of fusker. At least I'm glad to see that the take-offs are at least being sensitive to the email inquiries. The original guy ignored me, as well as their host.

I wrote an article a while back on how to find the hosts for certain sites, it's still available at -

http://ynotnews.ynotmasters.com/issu...402/page5.html

Just like password sharing sites, stamp one out, 2 more appear.

David
webmaster
greatgirls.com

grumpy 01-07-2004 11:42 AM

It could be simply solved by sumbmitters. But then you would have to approve that the image source is done through php something like < i m g s r c = p i c . p h p ? 1 5 >
for example. This would block all the freeloaders. But i presume this wont be an option.

second
When will you post your blacklist again...so we can update to. Have send you some mails about it.

beemk 01-07-2004 11:49 AM

i say img src his ass. this is no different then hacking our servers and putting his banners in place of ours. i forgot to put htaccess on one of my domains for a day and he burned about 50 gigs of my bandwidth before i realized and put the htaccess up. if you need any help just let me know.

cluck 01-07-2004 11:58 AM

Someone brought this up a while ago and I believe it would work.

1) Create an .htaccess in your images directory that redirects all hotlinks to a password protected page

2) Have the .htaccess set up so the "authorization failed" page redirects to the page of your choice. It could be a sponsor, or a page saying that the site you are viewing is under investigation for the mass pirating of adult content and their IP has been logged (he he he...)

So when they don't have a password IE *SHOULD* redirect them to the page in the .htaccess. I haven't tried it but I'm pretty sure it'd work.

PurrrsianPussyKat 01-07-2004 12:00 PM

Since the guy who runs Fusker doesn't seem to understand why his shit is a problem.. Maybe the next time you email him you should explain that what he is doing is called "theft of services". That it would be no different than him running an extension cord over to his neighbors house, plugging into an outside outlet and then powering his house while his neighbor pays the bill.

Sometimes you need to paint the slow people a picture they can understand. ;)

ztik 01-07-2004 12:09 PM

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Originally posted by BrainDead

let me tell you it's already happening on a large scale. Check www.phatforums.com/SFT/index.shtml

Those and the spamfreeforums guys suck alot of bandwidth.
They hotlinked some large movies off my server and were pulling 80mb/sec for a couple hours nonstop. Had to remove the files :(

rowan 01-08-2004 01:14 PM

*bump*

Interesting thread, I'm going to hunt through my log files right now...

The (recent?) fusker 'feature' of indiscriminately hotlinking a numbered range of images caused a lot of problems on one of my sites, because they img src'd a php script rather than the images which it displays. The end result: 250+ rapid-fire loads of a PHP script within a few seconds by each fusker surfer. Some of them even reloaded since all of the images showed as broken.

One quick fix for fusker dumbasses who try to hotlink HTML scripts rather than images might be to check the http_accept variable - if the browser is expecting an image rather than HTML then abort the script (or 302 to a suitable 'fuck you' image :) )


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