Brazil takes prints from US tourists

[directfiesta]

Looks like the old way:

an eye for an eye....

Brazil takes prints from US tourists

AP in Sao Paolo
Friday January 2, 2004
The Guardian

Police began fingerprinting and photographing American tourists arriving at Sao Paolo's international airport yesterday in compliance with a judge's order to match the treatment Brazilians will get when they enter the United States.
Julier Sebastiao da Silva, a federal judge in Mato Grosso state, ordered the move on Monday in response to new regulations requiring citizens from 27 countries, including Brazil, to be fingerprinted and photographed on entering the US as an anti-terrorism measure.

The ruling caught federal officials by surprise, coming during the holidays. At Rio de Janeiro's Antonio Carlos Jobim airport, police said yesterday they were not ready to begin the fingerprinting.

At Sao Paulo's international airport two police agents were on hand to identify US citizens. Some 230 US citizens had been processed.

A police spokesman said: "At first, most of the Americans have been angered at having to go through all this, but they are usually more understanding once they learn Brazilians are subjected to the same treatment in the US."

[The Truth Hurts]

people should just stick to their own fucking countries anyway.

all these travelling fuckers haven't seen 99.99% of their own fucking country and they're out looking at other peoples shit.

[spamofon]

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
people should just stick to their own fucking countries anyway.

all these travelling fuckers haven't seen 99.99% of their own fucking country and they're out looking at other peoples shit.

Always things to see:



A worshipper tosses a floral offering for "iemanja," the Goddess of the sea, on Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, December 31, 2003. More than two million people are expected here for the annual New Year's Eve celebration.

[directfiesta]

Another reason to go to Brazil ( They could "dickprint" me ....:





A sunbather walks into the surf on Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro, December 29, 2003. While snow storms and extreme cold conditions have hit sections of the northern hemisphere, temperatures in Rio have reached into the mid-to-upper 30's Celsius (upper 90's).

[Matt 26z]

This is just stupid, but what do you expect from a struggling country? You know those photos and fingerprints are going straight in the trash after they take them, so the only purpose is to piss off American tourists who are bringing powerful American dollars into their economy. Real smart.

[nathan_f]

Hey, the States wants to do it, let Brazil do it too, all in the name of national security.

[MrIzzz]

who gives a shit. i hope they print everyone so that they can start catching some of these scumbags out there

[Living For Today]

fair is fair.

[spamofon]

Finally Brazilians started to fingerprint those scumbags

[stephenv]

Brazil needs a good ass-whipping liberating

[sweandy]

Seems all fair to me

[Loryn]

Originally posted by nathan_f
Hey, the States wants to do it, let Brazil do it too, all in the name of national security.

Intentions fool. We have good intentions. We are trying to protect people. They have bad intentions. They are being rude. They don't comprehend what is going on. Ignorance, just like you. Grow up!!!

How soon people forget Sept 11th and what the fuck is going on in this world.

Now I have some porn to watch in my wonderful powerful fucking country.

C YA

[Loryn]

OH yeah one more thing, how stupid can they be, to waist their own fucking money for nothing more than a ha ha ha. It's so stupid they don't even realize who is laughing at whom.

Sooner or later cooler heads will prevail and Brazil will not go through with it. One idiot judge with personal anger. So childish.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
One idiot judge with personal anger. So childish.

Agreed. Just like:

" one idiot president with personal anger. So childish. "

[Jer]

I think it's fair, but it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes (wait time included).

[alan-l]

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
OH yeah one more thing, how stupid can they be, to waist their own fucking money for nothing more than a ha ha ha. It's so stupid they don't even realize who is laughing at whom.

Sooner or later cooler heads will prevail and Brazil will not go through with it. One idiot judge with personal anger. So childish.

Loryn, no offense, but it seems you've no idea what you're talking about. Wether it's some kind of stupid revenge, there's something called the Triple Frontier, a place where Paraguay, Brazil and Argentine share their frontiers and it's the place where some of the Al-Qaeda terrorists enter America. And this told by the CIA, you don't have to believe me, but sometimes a little information is needed before talking. As for me, I couldn't care less about Brazil taking prints of me and everyone, I've nothing to hide (well, maybe my impressive 15 inches)

[CamChicks]

If you are an American, and you are offended by this or feel that it's somehow a violation of your privacy/freedom/rights . . . but at the same time you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the exact same to other people . . . then you are just a hypocrite hiding bigotry behind patriotism.

Humanity is not divided between Americans and non-Americans; all people everywhere deserve equal rights and equal treatment. (until they personally do something to forfeit those rights)

I don't care if travellers get fingerprinted or not; but to maintain a double standard by saying it's ok for the USA to do it to those subhuman foreigners, but not ok for other countries to do it to us holier-than-them Americans is just wrong.

[hostey_com]

Originally posted by CamChicks
If you are an American, and you are offended by this or feel that it's somehow a violation of your privacy/freedom/rights . . . but at the same time you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the exact same to other people . . . then you are just a hypocrite hiding bigotry behind patriotism.

Humanity is not divided between Americans and non-Americans; all people everywhere deserve equal rights and equal treatment. (until they personally do something to forfeit those rights)

I don't care if travellers get fingerprinted or not; but to maintain a double standard by saying it's ok for the USA to do it to those subhuman foreigners, but not ok for other countries to do it to us holier-than-them Americans is just wrong.

A Bump to you! Terrorists come from everywhere, you can't discriminate a few countries, I've never heard of a Brazilian terrorist...

[kmanrox]

Originally posted by directfiesta
Looks like the old way:

an eye for an eye....

exactly... they even charge a higher visa rate to US citizens 'because that's what they charge brazilians'...

last i checked brazil needs our tourism money more than the US needs theirs.....

i guess if it was my country id do the same thing though... im petty like that...

[BigFish]

Percentage of Americans who actually care or is affected by this new ruling: .0000000000000000000000001%. Brazil is just shooting themselves in the foot by potentially blocking American tourism capital flowing into its in-a-financial-crisis, cash-strapped Country.

[The Gallery Girl]

As a brazilian, I can say there are opinions on both sides of the story here, and I´m sure the same happens in America, as we can see from the different points of view in this thread.
Obviously this is a free space for free discussion, but I just want to say that Brazil is a sovereign and respectfull country, with very noble people - just like America, just like Canada and just like most of the countries in the world.
Every country has good and bad things to be pointed out, none is worse, none is better. Expressions like " rude" , " ignorance", "struggling country" and "powerful American dollars" dont bring any contribuitions to the discussion and depreciate our country and our people.
I guess I speak in the name of all the brazilian webmasters on GFY - Bruno Dickman, Jer, Xfalmp, Milena

[sacX]

Originally posted by Matt 26z
only purpose is to piss off American tourists who are bringing powerful American dollars into their economy.

powerful American dollars? Didn't you hear? the dollar has been downgraded, it must now be referred to as the United States peso.

[Rorschach]

Originally posted by sacX


powerful American dollars? Didn't you hear? the dollar has been downgraded, it must now be referred to as the United States peso.

nice one

[PimpMeNot]

On one side you have a struggling third world countries who is now led by a border line cheguevara communists president who wants to fingerprint the people who bring them hard currency.

On the other side you have the strongest and richest country in the world who is finally setting up a program to see if foreigners who hold visas to enter the Untetd States do not overstay their visa. You come in, they scan your fingerprint, you leave they scan your fingerprint. Therefore your date of entry and your date of departure are in the system which results in the INS knowing if you overstayed your visa. Also allows the US government to compare the scanned fingerprints to a database of unwanted people.

Now, directfiesta, let me had to your anger:
The system the United States now use was purchased from Israel. So, everytime an Arab comes in the United States with a Visa, they will be fingerprinted with the same machine used to fingerprint your Palestinian brothers

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by sacX


powerful American dollars? Didn't you hear? the dollar has been downgraded, it must now be referred to as the United States peso.

Have you killed a sheep today?

[sacX]

Originally posted by PimpMeNot
On one side you have a struggling third world countries who is now led by a border line cheguevara communists president who wants to fingerprint the people who bring them hard currency.

A lot of terrorists have hard currency .

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by sacX


A lot of terrorists have hard currency .

Of course they do, they get all their money from our "Saudi Brothers"

[OzMan]

Originally posted by The Gallery Girl
As a brazilian, I can say there are opinions on both sides of the story here, and I´m sure the same happens in America, as we can see from the different points of view in this thread.
Obviously this is a free space for free discussion, but I just want to say that Brazil is a sovereign and respectfull country, with very noble people - just like America, just like Canada and just like most of the countries in the world.
Every country has good and bad things to be pointed out, none is worse, none is better. Expressions like " rude" , " ignorance", "struggling country" and "powerful American dollars" dont bring any contribuitions to the discussion and depreciate our country and our people.
I guess I speak in the name of all the brazilian webmasters on GFY - Bruno Dickman, Jer, Xfalmp, Milena

Well said

I am just sorry almost nobody thinks like you.
An Internet forum can be used positively to build up relations between the peoples of different countries. This one however usually just turns into trying to prove one person or country is better than another when political discussions start.

[asuna]

get over it, you think terrorists who are determined to take down a plane will give a shit if they got his fingerprints, DNA, stool sample?

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by asuna
get over it, you think terrorists who are determined to take down a plane will give a shit if they got his fingerprints, DNA, stool sample?

This is more for immigration control than for terrorist hunting. It is most likely than the next batch of hijackers will be unknown and have no record.

[Pornwolf]

Originally posted by The Gallery Girl

I guess I speak in the name of all the brazilian webmasters on GFY - Bruno Dickman, Jer, Xfalmp, Milena

I am an honorary Brazillian as well. I plan on being in a bit of Brazil as much as possible. Oh, and I plan on coming to the country a few times too.

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by PimpMeNot
On one side you have a struggling third world countries who is now led by a border line cheguevara communists president who wants to fingerprint the people who bring them hard currency.

On the other side you have the strongest and richest country in the world who is finally setting up a program to see if foreigners who hold visas to enter the Untetd States do not overstay their visa. You come in, they scan your fingerprint, you leave they scan your fingerprint. Therefore your date of entry and your date of departure are in the system which results in the INS knowing if you overstayed your visa. Also allows the US government to compare the scanned fingerprints to a database of unwanted people.

Now, directfiesta, let me had to your anger:
The system the United States now use was purchased from Israel. So, everytime an Arab comes in the United States with a Visa, they will be fingerprinted with the same machine used to fingerprint your Palestinian brothers

Hadn't noticed the bump.. old thread.

As usual, you are a moron.

Your first paragraph on the presidency of Brasil shows that you get your education at Wendy's University....

In regards to your second paragraph, it agains illustrate very well your lack of capacity to analyse a situation. The problem here is NOT the fact that the USA is fingerprinting incomming foreigners, it is that they only do it to CERTAIN foreigners from certain countries, treating them as a " second class". This system will have no validity because more than half of the foreigners are not subject to it . You will beleive you are safe, but will not be. So a false or stolen passport from my country will allow somebody to go in, without any further controls.
The USA should implement this for ALL foreigners. Those who do not want to complly, well they choose not to go. Simple and no DISCRIMINATION.... Read it again, PimpMeNot , maybe you will understand.

As your third paragraph, I couldn't careless where the units are made. It seems you care a hell of a lot more.

And BTW, what anger are you referring too??? The pictures??? Nice girls are not anger... You really have an issue... Did I fuck your girlfriend???

[bugout]

Originally posted by directfiesta



Hadn't noticed the bump.. old thread.

As usual, you are a moron.

Your first paragraph on the presidency of Brasil shows that you get your education at Wendy's University....

In regards to your second paragraph, it agains illustrate very well your lack of capacity to analyse a situation. The problem here is NOT the fact that the USA is fingerprinting incomming foreigners, it is that they only do it to CERTAIN foreigners from certain countries, treating them as a " second class". This system will have no validity because more than half of the foreigners are not subject to it . You will beleive you are safe, but will not be. So a false or stolen passport from my country will allow somebody to go in, without any further controls.
The USA should implement this for ALL foreigners. Those who do not want to complly, well they choose not to go. Simple and no DISCRIMINATION.... Read it again, PimpMeNot , maybe you will understand.

As your third paragraph, I couldn't careless where the units are made. It seems you care a hell of a lot more.

And BTW, what anger are you referring too??? The pictures??? Nice girls are not anger... You really have an issue... Did I fuck your girlfriend???

From that logic, the US should just get rid of the whole visa process anyway huh?

It's only required of the countries the US currently requires a visa... I'm not sure of the numbers, but I doubt it's "more then half" of incoming foreigners.

Is requiring visa's discrimination too? Try to think a little bit about why the US requires visas. Just for the record, Brazilians are second only to Mexicans as illegal immigrants in the US.

Just to add a little enlightenment here...

The new Brazilian ?law? was enacted by a judge in a small state in northern Brazil. Just as a comparison to how the Brazilian government works, it?s like a 9th circuit court judge (California) making a ruling and then the whole US has to comply. This judge was even crazy enough to say that what the US is doing compares to the Nazis. Just about every other state in Brazil is crying foul, especially heavy tourist areas like Rio.

The funny part is that they?re only doing it in at the airport in Sao Paulo because none of the other entry points were informed to start. They?re actually pulling Americans out of the immigration lines, taking ink fingerprints, and shooting face photos with a cheap digital camera.

My favorite quote from a Federal Police officer at the airport when asked what they are doing with the prints and photos: ?We don?t know.?

This will all be over soon when a higher level federal judge overturns it (or when they run out of ink, whichever comes first). Not only because it?s retarded, but because Brazil just plain can?t afford it.

Don?t get me wrong, I?m American, but I also live in Brazil. I love both places, but both tend to be a little fucked up at times?.

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by directfiesta



Hadn't noticed the bump.. old thread.

As usual, you are a moron.

Your first paragraph on the presidency of Brasil shows that you get your education at Wendy's University....

In regards to your second paragraph, it agains illustrate very well your lack of capacity to analyse a situation. The problem here is NOT the fact that the USA is fingerprinting incomming foreigners, it is that they only do it to CERTAIN foreigners from certain countries, treating them as a " second class". This system will have no validity because more than half of the foreigners are not subject to it . You will beleive you are safe, but will not be. So a false or stolen passport from my country will allow somebody to go in, without any further controls.
The USA should implement this for ALL foreigners. Those who do not want to complly, well they choose not to go. Simple and no DISCRIMINATION.... Read it again, PimpMeNot , maybe you will understand.

As your third paragraph, I couldn't careless where the units are made. It seems you care a hell of a lot more.

And BTW, what anger are you referring too??? The pictures??? Nice girls are not anger... You really have an issue... Did I fuck your girlfriend???

Again:
This is more for immigration control than for terrorist hunting. It is most likely than the next batch of hijackers will be unknown and have no record.

Again:
You need therapy, you suffer from OCD and ADD. You are obsessed by hate for the US and Israel and obviously are seeking attention by writing outrageously biased statement every single day.
Your record is broken, get a life.
As for my girlfriend, she told me she dumped a loser from Montreal before knowing me as he could not keep it hard more than 45 seconds; premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction.

[Nathan]

The fingerprints and photo in the US are required by anyone that has a _VISA_. Meaning anyone that either can not get into the country via the Visa Waiver Program or someone who needs to get in for more than 6 months and needs a special visa, or a working visa or a student visa.

They are fingerprinting Germans, French, UK, Arabs and so on.. everyone is printed AS LONG AS they want to get in with a _VISA_.

I would say currently its around half of the people being printed and half not.

Also, please keep in mind that very soon the US will require passports with fingerprints also! And that for EVERYONE and I am sure they are going to make sure that the fingerprints match.

[Video-Post]

Originally posted by Matt 26z
...bringing powerful American dollars into their economy...

Haha good one. Get real dude, the dollar ain't worth anything anymore. I wipe my ass with dollar bills

The Euro owns you.

[Jedimaster]

Rio is the cesspool of the world

[Jer]

Originally posted by kmanrox

last i checked brazil needs our tourism money more than the US needs theirs.....

Actually, USA gets more brazilian tourists than USA sends to Brazil -- and brazilians spend way more dollars per day when in USA than USA people over here.

[Jer]

Originally posted by bugout

Don?t get me wrong, I?m American, but I also live in Brazil. I love both places, but both tend to be a little fucked up at times?.

Yep.

[digi]

Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com


Intentions fool. We have good intentions. We are trying to protect people. They have bad intentions. They are being rude. They don't comprehend what is going on. Ignorance, just like you. Grow up!!!

How soon people forget Sept 11th and what the fuck is going on in this world.

Now I have some porn to watch in my wonderful powerful fucking country.

C YA

You're such a complete idiot

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by Video-Post


Haha good one. Get real dude, the dollar ain't worth anything anymore. I wipe my ass with dollar bills

The Euro owns you.

Typical reply from a European moron.

Weak dollar = good for US Economy

What good will a euro at $2 will do to you when your low quality overpriced product will stay in factories inventories???

When will europeans morons understand that Europe needs the United States as much as the United States needs Europe ???

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by Jer


Actually, USA gets more brazilian tourists than USA sends to Brazil -- and brazilians spend way more dollars per day when in USA than USA people over here.

It is nice to leave in his own dream world

[Carrie]

If you disagree with the practice, don't support it. Just don't go to Brazil.
Yes, it really IS that simple.

[Nikoleta]

Originally posted by CamChicks
If you are an American, and you are offended by this or feel that it's somehow a violation of your privacy/freedom/rights . . . but at the same time you think it's perfectly acceptable to do the exact same to other people . . . then you are just a hypocrite hiding bigotry behind patriotism.

Humanity is not divided between Americans and non-Americans; all people everywhere deserve equal rights and equal treatment. (until they personally do something to forfeit those rights)

I don't care if travellers get fingerprinted or not; but to maintain a double standard by saying it's ok for the USA to do it to those subhuman foreigners, but not ok for other countries to do it to us holier-than-them Americans is just wrong.

so true

[Jer]

Originally posted by The Gallery Girl
(...)
Every country has good and bad things to be pointed out, none is worse, none is better. (...)
I guess I speak in the name of all the brazilian webmasters on GFY - Bruno Dickman, Jer, Xfalmp, Milena

[Jer]

Originally posted by PimpMeNot
It is nice to leave in his own dream world

Bah.

[smproduction]

Brazil takes prints from US tourists

It is becoming ridicolous

[Odie]

It's just going to get to the point where we'll all need a visa to enter the US.. I prefer that, then at least we all know that we'd get in..