12clicks

look, he finally realizes he's in over his head.

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Libertine

Why does noticing that you are rambling incoherently and seem to have a particular love for the straw man argument mean I'm realizing I'm in over my head?

So far you have failed to provide even one real argument. The only one you posted in this thread that was even remotely on topic showed you have no knowledge whatsoever of what a flat tax rate is and what the effects are.

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baddog

Madonna endorsed him too

12clicks

sure kid.

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baddog

well that would cinch a win for Bush

baddog

ummm, what school teachers are you talking about? University professors? There are very few elementary school teachers with 3 times the education of me, and I don't even have a degree.

baddog

primarily because of corporations that pay less taxes via deductions and loopholes than they would pay if there was a flat 10% tax.

12clicks

the idea that a corporation should pay taxes at all is what keeps the economy from REALLY expanding.
politicians come to the stupid and say"those bad corporations need to be taxed"

a corporation is a vehicle for doing business, not a person lining their pockets.

When a person profits from a corporation, there is a tax event. A corporation bringing in money is just an action of business, not a profit event. its not profit until a person puts it in their pocket. The government already taxes that but because of a stupid electorate, we tax money brought into the corp wether its profit or not.
that's wrong and it stifles the economy.

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broke

I was speaking regarding individual income tax not business tax and the numbers were based on 2001 total personal income tax paid and total AGI.

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NBDesign

No, it is helping america. Gotta have a reason to take over those iraq oil fields... gotta fuel up those SUV's.

Think about it... Give a ridiculous tax break on some of the most gas sucking vehicles on the face of the planet and make the american public need the fuel that much more.

Funny, there are people running their engines on moonshine... and other fuels so why do we still ned oil? Oh yea... so the oil barrons can keep their jobs, start wars and let's see... what else?

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ThunderBalls

You really need to go to school and learn what a corporation is. It is a LEGAL ENTITY, which means it has its own rights and liabilities seperate from its owners. In legal terms it is its own person, so of course a corp should be taxed.

From an economic standpoint having a corporate tax encourages businesses to put profits back into the system, whether it be hiring more people, purchasing/leasing equipment, investing, etc. Which in turn creates economic growth.

12clicks

really asshat? when a corporation breaks the law, who goes to jail?
No one said it wasn't a legal entity. You really need to go back to school and lear reading comprehension.

No it doesn't, it encourages short sited economic spending. A corp. sitting on a pile of savings can weather many more downturns than a company who spends it every year so it doesn't lose whatever the % of the year is.
Why would a corp. save 1mil a year when say 40% of it is lost at the end of the year to taxes?
That 40% stifles growth. period.
but hey, it makes the rabble feel good about taking money from those evil corporations.

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