Hey outsourcing guys - inside

[Dirty F]

Isnt 1000 bucks a month for an asian guy a bit much?

I could find a student here in Holland for 1000 bucks a month and were far from a poor country.

[Rorschach]

That probably depends on what kind of services you were looking for.

[{fusion}]

Living in Hong Kong is 5 times more expensive than living in holland.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Living in Hong Kong is 5 times more expensive than living in holland.

Well, these guys dont hire people from Hong Kong.

Stupid comment.

[$5 submissions]

Originally posted by Battuss
Isnt 1000 bucks a month for an asian guy a bit much?

I could find a student here in Holland for 1000 bucks a month and were far from a poor country.

I charge per task instead of blocks of time. Depending on what you need, its cheaper this way.

[{fusion}]

its not a stupid comment, as you said 'asia' and you wasnt at all clear in your posting.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
its not a stupid comment, as you said 'asia' and you wasnt at all clear in your posting.

I also said outsourcing, how many outsourcing companies do you know who hire expensive people from Hong Kong.

Read the whole thread next time instead of just making a comment on Asia.

So yes, it was a stupid reply.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
its not a stupid comment, as you said 'asia' and you wasnt at all clear in your posting.

And when i said "were far from a poor country" doesnt that ring a bell? Maybe i was aiming at the fact that they use people from poor countries?

The more i think of it the more stupid your reply looks.

Now stop fucking up my thread.

[BRISK]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Living in Hong Kong is 5 times more expensive than living in holland.

A bit of an exageration I'd say.

[{fusion}]

Why dont you just start a outsourcing company then in holland and use students?

these people work for there living and they get paid.

your racist idiot by the sound of it, do some work and get productive instead of posting racist shit like you do and maybe you wont need to use an outsourcing company

loser

[$5 submissions]

Originally posted by BRISK


A bit of an exageration I'd say.

His statement is true for SOME parts of hong kong. But there's also some districts where it is quite cheap. Just like any city.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Why dont you just start a outsourcing company then in holland and use students?

these people work for there living and they get paid.

your racist idiot by the sound of it, do some work and get productive instead of posting racist shit like you do and maybe you wont need to use an outsourcing company

loser

DUDE FUCK OFF YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

HAhahaha now im racist

FUCK OFF!

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by $5 submissions


His statement is true for SOME parts of hong kong. But there's also some districts where it is quite cheap. Just like any city.

Yup, the most expensive parts of Amsterdam are REALLY expensive, prolly more expensive than some parts of Hong Kong.

[Spunky]

Originally posted by Battuss


now im racist!

We already knew that

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Why dont you just start a outsourcing company then in holland and use students?

these people work for there living and they get paid.

your racist idiot by the sound of it, do some work and get productive instead of posting racist shit like you do and maybe you wont need to use an outsourcing company

loser

Wtf is wrong with you asswiper. You comment 3 times in my thread with stupid shit because you dont read before you write. Then i tell you to stop posting shit, you get pissed off and call me a racist. We smoke weed in Holland, what do they smoke over there? Must be very strong shit.

[Theo]

too expensive

you can find employees with 1000 euro/month from greece, portugal or other countries with bachelor or even master degree from known universities.

[PimpMeNot]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Why dont you just start a outsourcing company then in holland and use students?

these people work for there living and they get paid.

your racist idiot by the sound of it, do some work and get productive instead of posting racist shit like you do and maybe you wont need to use an outsourcing company

loser

Hey dude, I did not know that Asia was only Hong Kong???
Obviously, if one outsources in Asia, they would use people from China or Vietnam, not from Hong Kong.

By the way, Hong Kong should be very careful, with China opening up more and more, Hong Kong will soon become obsolete and over priced.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by spunky1

We already knew that

I hope thats a joke.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by PimpMeNot


Hey dude, I did not know that Asia was only Hong Kong???
Obviously, if one outsources in Asia, they would use people from China or Vietnam, not from Hong Kong.

By the way, Hong Kong should be very careful, with China opening up more and more, Hong Kong will soon become obsolete and over priced.

Ignore the freak, he doesnt know what hes talking about. Next thing he will call you a racist.
He gets pissed off because HE cant read.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
too expensive

you can find employees with 1000 euro/month from greece, portugal or other countries with bachelor or even master degree from known universities.

Yes, i said student but actually for 1000 euros i can find people with degrees and shit.

[Odin88]

your racist idiot by the sound of it, do some work and get productive instead of posting racist shit like you do and maybe you wont need to use an outsourcing company

What a stupid comment.

Anyway, Battuss does have a point - at times it really does not work out that much cheaper to outsource mainly because skills, etc are involved which most of their populations don't posses (the fact that very few have computers is one reason for this).

However, if it is a simple job that just requires a hell of a lot of work (something labor intensive - mass data entry for example) they really are pretty cheap. Depends what you use them for I guess.

[Theo]

Originally posted by Battuss


Yes, i said student but actually for 1000 euros i can find people with degrees and shit.

definitely, students won't get more than 650e and for certain majors you can find master holder with 800e at most

unemployment is the no1 problem of our times.

[{fusion}]

your getting your 0.25 cents in and thats all your really bothered about right?

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
your getting your 0.25 cents in and thats all your really bothered about right?

????

WTF are you talking about man?
Please try to make some sense or fuck off.

[BRISK]

My employee in the Philipenes rocks. He works 8 hours a day, 6 days a week. Costs me $800 USD (632 Euro) a month.

[{fusion}]

$0.25

nice attitude you have there battus

what do you expect, you think asian people dont exist in buisness?

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
$0.25

nice attitude you have there battus

what do you expect, you think asian people dont exist in buisness?

Can someone explain me what this guy is trying to say? I dont have a clue what hes after.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
$0.25

nice attitude you have there battus

what do you expect, you think asian people dont exist in buisness?

DUDE YOU ARE AN IDIOT!

[{fusion}]

maybe but that makes 2 of us.

good thread you got going here pal

[$5 submissions]

Originally posted by Odin88


Depends what you use them for I guess.

Exactly. Outsourcing is just another tool to help your business get ahead!

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
maybe but that makes 2 of us.

good thread you got going here pal

What is my thread exactly oh smart one?

I ask why outsourcing companies are relatively expensive.
You come here talking about Hong Kong, racist shit etc.

Im not even looking for an outsourcing guy. You have not a single clue what you are talking about. You just came here to stir shit and fuck up my thread. From reply 1 you were talking shit.

[{fusion}]

Isnt 1000 bucks a month for an asian guy a bit much?

then what does that comment mean?

[harvey]

I don't know... it seems to me that if you don't like the price you just don't use them. Besides, if you've a guy near you who speaks the same language that could do the work for the same money, then why worry about people from other countries?

[prostock]

our cost at www.xxxoutsourcing.com is from 750 to 950 ,
now lets see we pay the worker , we have the office , we have the bills , the pc cost and all that shit now take all that and add it up and tell me what you think we really make per clint and i know we pay of staff more then most here do !

[Odin88]

Exactly. Outsourcing is just another tool to help your business get ahead!

...and also make life a hell of a lot easier!

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by prostock
our cost at www.xxxoutsourcing.com is from 750 to 950 ,
now lets see we pay the worker , we have the office , we have the bills , the pc cost and all that shit now take all that and add it up and tell me what you think we really make per clint and i know we pay of staff more then most here do !

I can see where the costs are coming from but doesnt that defeat the purpose? Know what i mean?

I couldnt care less since im not looking and if id hire someone i would be someone who is in my area but im just wondering what the pro's are for people using outsource companies.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by {fusion}
Isnt 1000 bucks a month for an asian guy a bit much?

then what does that comment mean?

Yes 1000 bucks is a fucking lot for a Thai person or someone from India. Now fuck off you asian c<a>unt.

Just like the desert is dry and the sea is wet.

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by harvey
I don't know... it seems to me that if you don't like the price you just don't use them. Besides, if you've a guy near you who speaks the same language that could do the work for the same money, then why worry about people from other countries?

Im not worried and not looking for an Asian guy....just wondering...geesh.

[Odin88]

Yes 1000 bucks is a fucking lot for a Thai person or someone from India. Now fuck off you asian hahahaha.

Just like the desert is dry and the sea is wet.

He is not Asian, his wife is. I agree though, I wish the hahahaha would fuck off!

'You're all racist'

[Pornwolf]

I'm surprised there aren't more Asian people in the biz. Where are all my AZN brothas? There has to be more than Boneprone and this one guy in this thread?

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Odin88


He is not Asian, his wife is. I agree though, I wish the hahahaha would fuck off!

'Your all racist'

I couldnt care less...hes just fucking stupid trying to mix up my words till the point where he can call me a racist.
Fuck this guy is a moron.
Everybody and his brother knows that 1000 bucks is a lot of money in a lot of Asian countries but mr hong kong here thinks different. Im not talking about fucking hong kong you idiot!!!

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by Pornwolf
I'm surprised there aren't more Asian people in the biz. Where are all my AZN brothas? There has to be more than Boneprone and this one guy in this thread?

Are you racist?

[hyper]

Originally posted by Battuss
Isnt 1000 bucks a month for an asian guy a bit much?

I could find a student here in Holland for 1000 bucks a month and were far from a poor country.

you can find a student here in the states for half of that

[prostock]

Originally posted by Battuss


I can see where the costs are coming from but doesnt that defeat the purpose? Know what i mean?

I couldnt care less since im not looking and if id hire someone i would be someone who is in my area but im just wondering what the pro's are for people using outsource companies.

we are not here to get rich off it we have many other things going on as well , but at the same time , we have guys that only work for us they do a ton of over time and that is mostly for us , ya there is alot to why we have this company , as most here know me i also have a content company many sites and a webmaster program so no this is all where my founds come from , and i reather make a little money and make people happy then to get guys like you that think it is already to high and bitch over it ,

do the math , we give you a staff for 200 hours a month , now that gives you back 200 hours a month , so now what is your time really worth , i know mien is more then our price !

[Dirty F]

Originally posted by prostock


we are not here to get rich off it we have many other things going on as well , but at the same time , we have guys that only work for us they do a ton of over time and that is mostly for us , ya there is alot to why we have this company , as most here know me i also have a content company many sites and a webmaster program so no this is all where my founds come from , and i reather make a little money and make people happy then to get guys like you that think it is already to high and bitch over it ,

do the math , we give you a staff for 200 hours a month , now that gives you back 200 hours a month , so now what is your time really worth , i know mien is more then our price !

Man, you see me bitching? I WAS JUST WONDERING. Fuck this shit...im not attacking you or anything.

[Theo]

Originally posted by prostock
our cost at www.xxxoutsourcing.com is from 750 to 950 ,
now lets see we pay the worker , we have the office , we have the bills , the pc cost and all that shit now take all that and add it up and tell me what you think we really make per clint and i know we pay of staff more then most here do !

justified costs,there's no doubt
operating expenses need to be estimated as well

i have outsourced in the past few tasks and I believe it's a win-win situation if you are dealing with proper persons. I believe outsourcing co. is gonna be a major issue in this industry (and not only) in the next 2-3years.

[liquidmoe]

It probably would make more sense to hire someone out of Europe for 1,000 a month for some complex work that actually requires some brains, but if you did that personally then you also have to make sure that your worker(s) is actually working, meeting deadlines, and so forth, this becomes difficult if you arent near the worker.

Plus in a place like Europe if a person has a degree than more likely than not he also has a computer and most of those costs dont exist, except for perhaps taking care of the guy's inet bill.

But again you would be responsible for policing the worker(s) and making sure things were done. Best solution would be to see an outsourcing company spring up somewhere in Europe catering to the adult market, then someone else is worried about making sure the workers are being productive, and you still get a similarly priced guy taking care of your tasks.

Just seems with a guy in Europe there would be less of a language barrier as plenty of people already have some knowledge of English.

[Mr. Marks]

Problem with choosing local labor is sometimes the guy is super ambitious and learns your shit then sets up his own shop.

Better to break up the job and farm it out.

Originally posted by liquidmoe
It probably would make more sense to hire someone out of Europe for 1,000 a month for some complex work that actually requires some brains, but if you did that personally then you also have to make sure that your worker(s) is actually working, meeting deadlines, and so forth, this becomes difficult if you arent near the worker.

Plus in a place like Europe if a person has a degree than more likely than not he also has a computer and most of those costs dont exist, except for perhaps taking care of the guy's inet bill.

But again you would be responsible for policing the worker(s) and making sure things were done. Best solution would be to see an outsourcing company spring up somewhere in Europe catering to the adult market, then someone else is worried about making sure the workers are being productive, and you still get a similarly priced guy taking care of your tasks.

Just seems with a guy in Europe there would be less of a language barrier as plenty of people already have some knowledge of English.

[VeriSexy]

Originally posted by PimpMeNot


Hey dude, I did not know that Asia was only Hong Kong???
Obviously, if one outsources in Asia, they would use people from China or Vietnam, not from Hong Kong.

By the way, Hong Kong should be very careful, with China opening up more and more, Hong Kong will soon become obsolete and over priced.

[xxxoutsourcing]

Outsourcing is a great opportunity for any one with half a brain, if you trying to make you business grow at a cost effective rate and your a good task delegation then outsourcing is for you, we have clients already that are fully aware of the advantages that our company offers and they use it to the max by taking on more webmasters / designers each month.
They save costs by outsourcing rather than paying a webmaster or designer from the EU or USA of which would cost a lot more.
Our guys are educated and speak English and ARE NOT STUDENTS.
Companies that employ full time webmasters, designers, programmers or server administrators are now coming to us to use our outsourcing skills and knowledge to replace there guys locally that are costing companies much much more than what they get from us for the same service and skills they are paying current staff for.
Sometimes pay per job will be better than outsourcing, but if you have so many tasks to do and can see the bigger picture of your business expanding and putting people to work to grow your business then this is defiantly the way forwards.

It basically boils down to, do you have enough work to do to keep your outsourced staff busy, if so great and look at expansion.
If your smart enough to understand how to make a business grow you will realize that a one man band is not they way and that delegation is the key to success, you can task your staff to do the jobs that hold up your time so you can be doing other jobs or using your mind in a better way to come up with more and better ideas.

You can't put a cost on success, if the guy was $1000 bucks and he's good and saves you that in time or even makes you that, it's good business sense to have him, no?

You can't afford not too outsource!!!!