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hyper · 01-05-2004, 01:43 AM

50 overpaid outsourcing guys

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Problem with choosing local labor is sometimes the guy is super ambitious and learns your shit then sets up his own shop.

Better to break up the job and farm it out.

Valid point but that's why we have non-disclosure agreements and non-compete to avoid such situations. Plus depending on how many workers you have and how you partition the labor, and keep separation of labor, it may be possible to have each person working on such a small subset of the project that they really couldnt leave you and attempt to profit from it themselves.

But non-competes are always a good way to go anyway.

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by prostock
our cost at www.xxxoutsourcing.com is from 750 to 950 ,
now lets see we pay the worker , we have the office , we have the bills , the pc cost and all that shit now take all that and add it up and tell me what you think we really make per clint and i know we pay of staff more then most here do !

Yeah but those are distributed costs. According to the CIA factbook, the average wage in Asia is from $5 a day (Philippines) to $1.50 a day (Vietnam). I'm not knocking you making money, but come clean.

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 01:48 AM

Non competes take litigation to enforce. Most people just let it slide. Specially if they don't know.

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
Valid point but that's why we have non-disclosure agreements and non-compete to avoid such situations. Plus depending on how many workers you have and how you partition the labor, and keep separation of labor, it may be possible to have each person working on such a small subset of the project that they really couldnt leave you and attempt to profit from it themselves.

But non-competes are always a good way to go anyway.

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Non competes take litigation to enforce. Most people just let it slide. Specially if they don't know.

Depends on the size of the project you have the guys working on and how successful their own endeavour becomes. If your project makes you the cash and theirs becomes a serious competitor or has the looks of it, it may be worthwhile to litigate, plus dont forget that you paid these guys there salaries for a time so you have some understanding of what kind of bank roll they have, and if they dont have any outside investors its a pretty safe bet that aside from the non-compete that you already have you will be able to litigate a victory purely from the monetary aspect of things.

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 01:52 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing

You can't afford not too outsource!!!!

Kinda reductive but Im sure it applies on some levels.

xxxoutsourcing · 01-05-2004, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo

Yeah but those are distributed costs. According to the CIA factbook, the average wage in Asia is from $5 a day (Philippines) to $1.50 a day (Vietnam). I'm not knocking you making money, but come clean.

No matter what the wages are the cost of living is MUCH MUCH cheaper, so money goes futher.

Our staff are not paid the average wage, they are talented educated guys and they all over the opertunity to grow with the company, we are running a professional company here not a clown show!!!!!

Of course there is nothing wrong with making money, that's how we all do well and our staff too can have a better standard of living, but outsourcing is not where we make our cash period.

xxxoutsourcing · 01-05-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo

Kinda reductive but Im sure it applies on some levels.

Seems you could only comment on my DRY humour at the end of what i had to say, if you would have read what i actually said, i did comment when outsourcing applies.

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 02:00 AM

Capitalism you gotta exploit someone to make your cash, just a question of how much you exploit them.

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing

but outsourcing is not where we make our cash period.

So, stop it if you're not making money.

liquidmoe · 01-05-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo

So, stop it if you're not making money.

He makes money its just not his main business, but a side business he uses to the advantage of his main biz, according to him.

Mr. Marks · 01-05-2004, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing

Seems you could only comment on my DRY humour at the end of what i had to say, if you would have read what i actually said, i did comment when outsourcing applies.

I did read the whole thing. That's why I say it's reductive. And simplistic.

xxxoutsourcing · 01-05-2004, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo

So, stop it if you're not making money.

Why would we stop, we have a posative cash flow and what we see for the future is a profitable outsourcing business that has much more to offer with even more quality for the industry.

We run our own adult sites that supplies our income, profit and support, why would we want to stop when we see the bigger picture of the future and our staff, we have our goals, targets and business plan in place of which we are all on track with and the future is bright.

We are happy with the way it's growing and where we will get to and how people will benifit from what we offer.

Dirty F · 01-05-2004, 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by papichulo

Yeah but those are distributed costs. According to the CIA factbook, the average wage in Asia is from $5 a day (Philippines) to $1.50 a day (Vietnam). I'm not knocking you making money, but come clean.

Tell that to that clown from Hong Kong, he will call you a racist tho.

basschick · 01-05-2004, 02:58 AM

i must have missed a meeting. you can pay a guy in some countries $800 a month or so, and he can actually live pretty well.

here in l.a. where the average 1 bedroom apt is $1000, you just plain can't pay anyone but a student $1000 a month and expect much. and students aren't very experienced or reliable, generally.

i'm also not sure how exploitive it is to pay someone what is a wage that's competitive for their area.

sacX · 01-05-2004, 03:39 AM

apart from finding motivated students, with good enough skills. I find hiring someone locally is more red tape than I can be bothered with.

xxxoutsourcing · 01-05-2004, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by basschick
i must have missed a meeting. you can pay a guy in some countries $800 a month or so, and he can actually live pretty well.

here in l.a. where the average 1 bedroom apt is $1000, you just plain can't pay anyone but a student $1000 a month and expect much. and students aren't very experienced or reliable, generally.

i'm also not sure how exploitive it is to pay someone what is a wage that's competitive for their area.

Yar you did miss something, for $1000 bucks a month I could have a 5 story town house to myself with a private maid and a swimming pool.

The living expense is a lot higher where you are for sure.

Richard - Triplexcash · 01-05-2004, 09:00 AM

1k is a little high, I think the going rate is around $750 through an outsourcing company. Depends on the actual work though.

For one or two employees, outsourcing is the way to go. If you have high volume, looking to open your own branch office could be beneficial...I can help with that if you want to do the Philippines ;)

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Richard - Triplexcash Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 915	1k is a little high, I think the going rate is around $750 through an outsourcing company. Depends on the actual work though. For one or two employees, outsourcing is the way to go. If you have high volume, looking to open your own branch office could be beneficial...I can help with that if you want to do the Philippines ;)