Well, in my experience (bloodplay, knifeplay, hard bondage etc) the combination of spontaneity and danger is what makes it most exciting...

One of my most cherished memories is that of being half-drunk with two cute goth chicks and cutting eachother, licking up the blood etc. Sure, it's completely irresponsible and extremely dangerous, but the risks were most definitely worth it in my opinion. (the huge pentagram-shaped scar on my back that lasted for years was a bit annoying, but that's another story)

The point is, the risk and even danger are an essential part of the experience in my opinion. Going about things too safely and too technically would turn it into something more medical than sensual :2 cents:

I'd definitely like to see a few more :thumbsup

You have a good point there, and that is spotenaity (fuck the spelling at this point) is extremely sensual and sexy. But when doing suspensions, it's not about sensuality, sexiness, or anything of that nature. Most people I have known who suspend do so for personal or spiritual reasons, not sexual ones.

Therefore they want the ecstacy of the release of tension (and it is one hell of a release) without the fear of medical problems or "what if something goes wrong" type stuff. The people doing the suspensions and throwing the hooks (8 gauge meathooks like you'd find at a butcher shop or meat locker, sterilized and individually wrapped in medical grade packaging) have been doing it for years and were apprenticed to someone for at least 24 months before going out and hosting their own suspensions.

Don't get me wrong: it's very exciting, frightening, and euphoric. But it's also as safe as we can make it.

Two more, and that's all. I gotta take more pics of this stuff.

http://www.freakmanor.com/images/inflight.jpg

http://www.freakmanor.com/images/inflight2.jpg

That's me in the second one, watching her reactions so carefully. Many times, those who suspend can lose conscious thought and we have to bring them back to reality. A close eye is definitely needed.

The gentleman holding her hand is trying to get her to squeeze it in response. If she doesn't do that in three attempts, she's taken down and the standby EMT gets to take over. We've never had to do that: most come around after one or two commands. :)

Well, I just gave sex as an example of things where too much premeditation can ruin the whole thing. I have no experience whatsoever with suspension though, so I'll just take your word for it :glugglug

Ah. Sex is something totally different. Hell, premeditating that just sucks.

Whoa... nice! That definitely looks like it's worth trying sometime. Must be an extremely surrealistic feeling to hang there like that :glugglug

Ouch :(

Hit me on Q for more information and a website for pulling and suspension information. ;)

That is so NOT hot. I respect people's fetishes but people who want to inflict pain on themselves don't really like themselves very much. This is not healthy or OK. Those who say it is have issues. :2 cents:

Well, tell that to the general bdsm populace. Most of those plan things out more neatly than I do with most of the scripts I write :winkwink:

Argh. I don't plan my scenes, I go with what feels right for the moment. A planned scene just isn't as much fun. Just follow the bottom's lead and listen for safewords, look for signs of subspace, and enjoy. :)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh yeah

let's set him on fire and roast marshmellows on his mullet :Graucho

Hmm... then we do have rather different views on this :)
I've personally never used safewords, and try to avoid following the bottom's lead because it tends to make things a tad bit too predictable. Then again, I always try to go for a wild, uncontrolled atmosphere where the borders between fantasy and reality fade as much as possible. Chances are we're actually talking about completely different things :winkwink:

That may well be. I don't equate sex and a BDSM related scene. They are totally different things, though one may well lead to another. It is the scene that i am most careful about. If I happen to leave bite marks and draw blood during sex, well hey- that's just how it goes, toots. :)

fuckin weird ass shit right there

Ah, yes. Then we indeed are talking about completely different things :)
For me, ideally the two go completely together. In that case, blood, bruises and tears are pretty much a given. Ofcourse, the girl has to be completely into it as well, but if that's the case it isn't so much a scene as it is a temporary reality, in which a wild sort of semi-trance almost completely takes over. In that case, safewords and such are pretty much obsolete, since if she's into it, they won't be necessary, and if she isn't, I'll notice immediately.

Okay, what's you're describing to me is supremely intense animalistic sex. It's not the same to me as a BDSM scene.

fuck, I need to get me some of that.....

Well, it can be both. In it's most basic and most spontaneous form, it's indeed what you say.
However, with elements of roleplaying and domination, it falls more into the realm of BDSM.

it must suck to be so bored with life that you have to go that extreme to get pleasure.

True, in a very basic sense.

But then, different strokes for different folks. I don't consider the roles really a BDSM thing between my girl and me. To us, i'ts a very natural thing: she's submissive and I'm a control freak bitch. It evens out. :)

It must suck to be so narrow minded that you can't fathom another person's personal pleasures.

Well, BDSM does contain D/s, whether it be natural or not :winkwink:
I don't think it's really possible to "fake" dominance or submission though. I could never imagine myself in a submissive role, it just wouldn't feel right.

I"m a switch, but leaning more toward the Dominant tendancies. And yes, BDSM does indeed contain D/s. That's just one of the delightful facets. But the "sceneing" does not take place in my bedroom. Just a bit of fun, animalistic tendacy here and there. :)

I'm a pure Dom, although I definitely prefer D/d/s over the usual D/s. Kinda hard to find people who are into that though.

Bored? More like what a f-up childhood and life one must have go to extremes to harm ones body for ?pleasure?.

While I realize that many people find this stuff disturbing, I also see body modification and BDSM practices to be the norm in many countries. I don't appreciate all fetishes but I do try not to comment negatively on them. :2 cents:

That's actually what my huisband and I live with my girl. He's the Top D, I'm the middle d, and she's the s. :)

Lucky him :winkwink:

And on that note, I'm going to catch a nap before I have to get up and work again. the percocet is killing me.

my comment wasn't directed at you tala, i didn't even pay attention to the fact that you posted it. you should of known you'd get some backlash from some ppl tho.

He's hard as needles, I mean nails.... he's got a MULLET...

how come it doesn't rip thru the weight of the body?

That's a good question.

:thumbsup

Tala, if you were referring to me. I am liberal when it comes to sexual pleasure; however, I am more concerned with mental health and self-abusive measures to gain ?pleasure? or unconditional love. To each his own, but please tell me what ?fetish? is worse than this besides suffixation? :)

:throwup

Many aboriginal cultures, (native americans/aborigines, etc..) were suspending and pulling long before any other culture took it upon themselves to call it wrong. Tattooing and peircing were also widely known among the "uncivilized" peoples. It is still commonly practiced throughout Africa and South America by the nomadic peoples.

For many today who continue the practice, it is a spiritual and emotional cleansing or a rite of passage that, by their beliefs, they must go through. I have seen Christian people who do this hang with their arms outstretched, praying the entire time to thank Christ for dying for them. I have seen pagans pull to relieve their souls of heartaches that they had struggled with to no avail. I have seen people from all walks of life doing this for their own personal reasons, and the real beauty of a suspension or pull is not the suspension or pull itself (though to my eye, that's really fuckin cool, too). It's the beauty of seeing people overcome fears, smile for hours on end, and fill themselves with delight and wonder. It's the reaction and joy they feel that is the real beauty.

I don't think this is going to help anyone understand, but hey, I'll post it anyway. :glugglug

The human body is very resiliant, but in technical terms, before a suspension is done, they weigh the person who's going to suspend. They then figure out how many hooks to throw and where so that the weight of the suspended body is evenly distributed over the hooks, thus preventing tearing of flesh and a successful suspension. :glugglug