Drama: We hired Groovyadultdesign.com 3 weeks ago and he is gone!!!

[jojojo]

as anyone hired this guy or know him?

We hired him 3 weeks ago to do two tgp's for us - $150 each - we gave him $150 deposit and he designed one of the logos and did a damn good job - then I spoke with him more and he said he woudl get beack to me in a couple days - it has been 3 weeks and he does not answer email, icq and the phone number on his whois said "sorry wrong number"

Perhaps he is in a coma or something strange.

Can anyone shed some light on this - or if you read this please contact me asap.

[Roald]

Bump for you

[EscortBiz]

very common with designers, dont beleive a thing many claim a death in the family or they got sick and bullshit.

Chargeback and move on.

[Roald]

Originally posted by EscortBiz
very common with designers, dont beleive a thing they all claim a death in the family or they got sick and bullshit.

Chargeback and move on.

They all?

[reynold]

Bump for problem resolution (hopefully).

[VIPimp]

I dealt with him like over a year ago, he was pretty cool. Something may have came up for him cuz I dont think he is type to rip you off.

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by QuaShe


They all?

edited

I did have some nice dealings too but had tons of aggrevation as well

[Oracle Porn]

If you want a tgp design I can make it and you can trust me that I wont disappear...
Icq me 94-399-723

[Roald]

Originally posted by EscortBiz


edited

I did have some nice dealings too but had tons of aggrevation as well

I have to agree on some points, but there is a pretty known sponsor on this board who keeps fucking with me for a few dollars. I am not going to tell their name, but it's not always the designer. Thats why most want clients to pay like half before and half after

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
If you want a tgp design I can make it and you can trust me that I wont disappear...
Icq me 94-399-723

Will it be as good as yours?

http://www.oracleporn.com

[Roald]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Will it be as good as yours?

http://www.oracleporn.com

[Anna_O]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Will it be as good as yours?

http://www.oracleporn.com

One thing about that directory... Use BYOTs instead of the regular ARS sites. Converts hell of alot better

[DarkJedi]

Originally posted by EscortBiz
very common with designers, dont beleive a thing many claim a death in the family or they got sick and bullshit.

Chargeback and move on.

That is correct.

[jojojo]

thanks - yes he sounded likeq solid guy and did a damn nice logo for us for starters - his site looks well done and so does hsi work and it's only $150... that is why I thought maybe he is in a coma or somethng bizzarre.

Here is his design he did - damn good work for the first draft:
http://groovyadultdesign.com/portfolio/fucked/1.jpg

Hopefully he will turn up... I am mostly pissed about the wasted time we have endured

[Roald]

Originally posted by jojojo
thanks - yes he sounded likeq solid guy and did a damn nice logo for us for starters - his site looks well done and so does hsi work and it's only $150... that is why I thought maybe he is in a coma or somethng bizzarre.

Here is his design he did - damn good work for the first draft:
http://groovyadultdesign.com/portfolio/fucked/1.jpg

Hopefully he will turn up... I am mostly pissed about the wasted time we have endured

Now that IS a nice drawing

[cheese]

Yea, he designed moviehangout.com for me recently. Took for fuckin ever!!
I e-mailed him so many times and had to threatin a refund.
Although he did a great job, I would never go with him again. Some of the best work, but some of the worst service.

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Will it be as good as yours?

http://www.oracleporn.com

I didn't touch this site in more than I can remember
http://www.freshpuss.com <---- a little better

[Roald]

Originally posted by Oracle Porn


I didn't touch this site in more than I can remember
http://www.freshpuss.com <---- a little better

Just a little

[Jensen]

He went hunting and had family problems when I hired him during the summer... did the work cheaper later though..

[Oracle Porn]

Originally posted by QuaShe


Just a little

I got my eyes on you!

[reynold]

Originally posted by Anna_O


One thing about that directory... Use BYOTs instead of the regular ARS sites. Converts hell of alot better

So true. Use Hood Honey version 2 from EpicCash for PHAT ebony conversions.

[tootie]

I've had to turn away much-needed work lately because people didn't want to pay up front. I can't do it anymore, though. Not even for people with good reputations. I can't keep working for free. If I'm not going to be paid for something I could be designing TGP galleries to submit myself or spending time with my kids.

I did 30 galleries recently for a sponsor (and gave them a great deal) and after many days of their bank "screwing up my account number in the wire" and such (which may or may not be true, I don't know) AND a check that was Fed Exed to me and BOUNCED, I have finally received almost half of what I'm owed. No, I'm not going to say who it is. I hate doing that kind of thing because maybe it really is true. Who knows? At least I've gotten part of the payment already, so maybe they are really just having rotten luck.

I was also asked to do some buttons and banners for a content provider (again, I won't say who). They gave me no specific instructions, just some very vague comments about what they wanted, and now they have sent me an e-mail that says, "Not what I wanted, sorry." So now I spent my day off creating banners instead of going to see Return of the King which is what I'd planned to do, and I'm not getting paid.

So now I'm stuck with having to decide whether to risk working my tail off for nothing to have a CHANCE to get paid, or turning a job down completely and getting nothing at all.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by tootie


So now I'm stuck with having to decide whether to risk working my tail off for nothing to have a CHANCE to get paid, or turning a job down completely and getting nothing at all.

Welcome to business. Try doing it at 200 times the scale every day.

[JSA Matt]

Originally posted by jojojo
thanks - yes he sounded likeq solid guy and did a damn nice logo for us for starters - his site looks well done and so does hsi work and it's only $150... that is why I thought maybe he is in a coma or somethng bizzarre.

Here is his design he did - damn good work for the first draft:
http://groovyadultdesign.com/portfolio/fucked/1.jpg

Hopefully he will turn up... I am mostly pissed about the wasted time we have endured

That logo alone is worth more than $300...

[Sharky]

sorry to hear it./ I hope all is well with him.. that's an awesome logo he did for you.

Look on the bright side. You only Paid $150.. and you have a great logo for it.

[Sharky]

Originally posted by JSA Matt


That logo alone is worth more than $300...

I agree

[SoundMan]

Originally posted by tootie
I've had to turn away much-needed work lately because people didn't want to pay up front. I can't do it anymore, though. Not even for people with good reputations. I can't keep working for free. If I'm not going to be paid for something I could be designing TGP galleries to submit myself or spending time with my kids.

I did 30 galleries recently for a sponsor (and gave them a great deal) and after many days of their bank "screwing up my account number in the wire" and such (which may or may not be true, I don't know) AND a check that was Fed Exed to me and BOUNCED, I have finally received almost half of what I'm owed. No, I'm not going to say who it is. I hate doing that kind of thing because maybe it really is true. Who knows? At least I've gotten part of the payment already, so maybe they are really just having rotten luck.

I was also asked to do some buttons and banners for a content provider (again, I won't say who). They gave me no specific instructions, just some very vague comments about what they wanted, and now they have sent me an e-mail that says, "Not what I wanted, sorry." So now I spent my day off creating banners instead of going to see Return of the King which is what I'd planned to do, and I'm not getting paid.

So now I'm stuck with having to decide whether to risk working my tail off for nothing to have a CHANCE to get paid, or turning a job down completely and getting nothing at all.

Well work on your paysite, then you wont have to worry

[seven]

He gave me run around before I even paid him so obviously I didn't do or would never do biz with him btw, I need a logo done something simple but not too simple.. u know what I mean so anymore portfolios anyone?

[jojojo]

Yes it is great work - now I know why he is so cheap - LOL

It was teh best talent for the best price - too bad it is wokring out the way it is.

Obviously I am not the only one that has experienced customer service issues with him

Such a shame to squander such talent

So who else can design a tgp for $150 and do logos this good?

I have wasted enough time on this project.

BTW - Tootie I don't feel like paying upfront anymore after this experience (other side of the fence for you to consider) but I will because that is how business is done. I make all my seo clients pay upfront.

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by jojojo
I don't feel like paying upfront anymore after this experience (other side of the fence for you to consider) but I will because that is how business is done. I make all my seo clients pay upfront.

There is no set way business is done. We used to ship $20,000.00 worth of product at a time to each company and they didn't pay for 30 to 360 days. Just find someone you trust that will trust you and work something out from there.

[AcidMax]

He was one of the first designers I ever hired about 1 1/2 years ago. He did the same thing for me, designed a great site and did it fast, then the rest , the dude just dropped off the planet. Took months to get some paysite designs done. Seems to be a common occurrence with a couple designers on this board that take their sweet ass time.

I guess you get what you pay for, the cheaper it is I think most designers look at it like your work is less important. I had good luck with Sharky and AAA Adult Design they were on time, but you also pay for that service and quality.

I am sure he will come back but expect alot of time on ICQ fighting & asking for ETA's etc.

[JFPdude]

according to his whois I only live 4 miles from him maybe I'll drive by tommorow and look him up.

[JayJay]

Originally posted by JFPdude
according to his whois I only live 4 miles from him maybe I'll drive by tommorow and look him up.

he will aswell

[JFPdude]

Hmm just called the number in his whois and the person claimed to not know anything about the site.

[jojojo]

Hmm just called the number in his whois and the person claimed to not know anything about the site

IF you could drive by and knock on his door that woud be great

[JFPdude]

Originally posted by jojojo


IF you could drive by and knock on his door that woud be great

I sure could tommorow while I'm out getting feed for my horses.

I buy that in arden anyways

[tootie]

Originally posted by SoundMan


Well work on your paysite, then you wont have to worry

Yep, I am. Design is coming along and we're heading out next week to see an attorney about setting up a corporation and such.

jojojo, I totally understand how you feel. There is no easy way to ensure anything, either. It's terrible for either party to lose money

Maybe someone could set up a webmasters escrow service? That might be a nice business for an honest and established webmaster to set up. They could charge about 5% or so of the total transaction with a minimum value of $100 or so. I'd be willing to take a 5% paycut for a little security.

[jojojo]

I sure could tommorow while I'm out getting feed for my horses.

Thanks bro lemme know how it goes - [email protected] or icq 333485092

Escrow for work is an interesting concept...

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by EscortBiz
very common with designers, dont beleive a thing many claim a death in the family or they got sick and bullshit.

Chargeback and move on.

this is silly.

some, yes, but its usually people looking for cheap work from shady designers who get treated this way.
deal with someone known and recommended and this wont happen.

it sucks seeing people bash designers based on some fools no one even really knows

[Honeyslut]

Jim (groovy design ) is just VERY slow. I think he might have a day job.

[WebDork]

Nice work indeed

[Honeyslut]

Originally posted by JFPdude



I sure could tommorow while I'm out getting feed for my horses.

I buy that in arden anyways

What kind of horses do you have ?

[theS2O]

i've been rip off by a client also... so since then i do all my transactions upfront payment first. and about the turnaround time. i always include that on my quotation and usually i finish the project ahead of the deadline. price rates is important but as well as service quality too.

[Sharky]

Originally posted by AcidMax


I guess you get what you pay for, the cheaper it is I think most designers look at it like your work is less important. I had good luck with Sharky and AAA Adult Design they were on time, but you also pay for that service and quality.

Thanks AcidMax:-)

Much appreciated!

[inthestars]

Try Teen Angel. She's reliable! ICQ 124633448

[Jive]

Originally posted by jojojo
as anyone hired this guy or know him?

We hired him 3 weeks ago to do two tgp's for us - $150 each - we gave him $150 deposit and he designed one of the logos and did a damn good job - then I spoke with him more and he said he woudl get beack to me in a couple days - it has been 3 weeks and he does not answer email, icq and the phone number on his whois said "sorry wrong number"

Perhaps he is in a coma or something strange.

Can anyone shed some light on this - or if you read this please contact me asap.

GROOVYS BULLSHIT! finally bit him in the ass!
Well,well, this guy fucked me around too! he always has problems with where he lives from trees falling on his rental house etc.. the king of excuses we had a total of 3 designs that were not so hot grainy looking crap! not really money makers..
take me advice tell the looser to get lost!..find someone else.
we actually were going to get some more stuff done
with him but,he vanished? sorry to here about the burn job.

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


this is silly.

some, yes, but its usually people looking for cheap work from shady designers who get treated this way.
deal with someone known and recommended and this wont happen.

it sucks seeing people bash designers based on some fools no one even really knows

I am looking for cheap work from shady designers?

You kjnow the truth many become lazy for no reason once they get that paypal, all stories in the book are told.

Anyone who delas with designers will agree

[Theo]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Will it be as good as yours?

http://www.oracleporn.com

lol

[Jive]

Originally posted by theS2O
i've been rip off by a client also... so since then i do all my transactions upfront payment first. and about the turnaround time. i always include that on my quotation and usually i finish the project ahead of the deadline. price rates is important but as well as service quality too.

Well I looked at some of your work it's far better looking than groovys junk! I'll certainly keep you inmind.. your organised too.
and attractive prices..

[flashfreak]

shit happens...