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Old 01-02-2004, 08:57 AM   #1
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Finally The Names that caused the Flight Delays

Good job homeland suckurity

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...rline_security

PARIS - Six cases of mistaken identity were behind the pre-Christmas grounding of six Air France flights between Paris and Los Angeles over terrorism fears, a police official said Friday.



The names of six passengers were similar to those of terrorist suspects provided by the FBI (news - web sites), prompting the French government to halt the flights, the official said on condition of anonymity.


Pierre Debue, director of the French border police, said one name on the list turned out to be that of a 5-year-old child. The Wall Street Journal on Friday said two other suspected terrorists turned out to be an elderly Chinese woman and a Welsh insurance agent.


French police officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said errors in spelling and transcription of Arabic names played a role in the mix-up. But Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said it was better to err on the side of caution.


"It's a period of tension and a period of risk," he said. "I prefer the principle of precaution."


U.S. intelligence officials told their French counterparts that members of the al-Qaida terrorist network might try to board the planes over Christmas, French judicial officials have said.


But careful scrutiny of passenger manifests and the brief questioning of seven passengers failed to turn up evidence that a suicide hijacking was in the works.


Debue said that since the Christmas Eve cancellations, authorities have found a few passengers nearly every day who are considered suspicious by American intelligence authorities.


French authorities went ahead and authorized a flight several days ago "that American authorities didn't particularly want," Deputy Transport Minister Dominique Boussereau said Friday.


"We thought that all security measures had been taken, that the verifications of passengers had been such that this flight had every reason to fly," he said on Europe-1 radio. He did not identify the flight.


Meanwhile, two Air France flights, on Tuesday and Wednesday, were joined by F-16 fighter jets as they approached Los Angeles for landing, according to the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times.


Boussereau said French jet fighters also occasionally escort passenger aircraft.


"In periods of maximum security, this kind of procedure is common," he said without elaborating.


Undercover French agents were flying on some flights to the United States even before Washington asked this week that foreign airlines put armed air marshals on certain flights.


However, French officials have said that the extent of the program remained under discussion with U.S. officials.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:00 AM   #2
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Make you wonder if they will ever take their thumbs out of their asses and get this "security" to a level where it needs to be.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:03 AM   #3
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Make you wonder if they will ever take their thumbs out of their asses and get this "security" to a level where it needs to be.
only one way to secure flights and that is putting real security on each flight.

If a CIA agent for 15 years will sell secrects for 100K I wonder how much it would cost to buy one of those poor airport workers and get stuff on planes.

I still believe the 9/11 attack had inside help.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:05 AM   #4
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Short of martial law and armed guards everywhere at every building and on every plane you'll never stop terrorism because this government will never stop it's way of exploitation. The US government is the worlds biggest supporter of terrorism and won't stop itself.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:08 AM   #5
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I wouldn't want to be any of those people! I'd hit some of those idiot cops.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:08 AM   #6
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only one way to secure flights and that is putting real security on each flight.

If a CIA agent for 15 years will sell secrects for 100K I wonder how much it would cost to buy one of those poor airport workers and get stuff on planes.

I still believe the 9/11 attack had inside help.
9/11 was too well organized , definately people were bought on the "inside" to get things to work. Too many "holes" along the chain of airport security even at this point.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:13 AM   #7
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Alot of you people remind me of a part in Jaws.

Chief Brody wanted to shut the beach down because that girl that died looked like a shark attack. The mayor and the business people then had a fit because it was going to cost them money.

They opened the beach, then that little boy got killed, and the mother slaps Chief Brody across the face. "You knew a girl got killed here last week, how could you open the beach?".


basically, damned if you do, damned if you dont.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:16 AM   #8
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As long as there are people who will sellout and do anything for money, we're fucked.

So we're fucked.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:16 AM   #9
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only one way to secure flights and that is putting real security on each flight.

If a CIA agent for 15 years will sell secrects for 100K I wonder how much it would cost to buy one of those poor airport workers and get stuff on planes.

I still believe the 9/11 attack had inside help.
yeah makes ya wonder some people believe the US government was invovled i know some of the terrorist that flew those planes was trained in st augustine florida at the northrop grunman airport where they wold instructors they didnt care about landing they just want to know how to fly a plane in the air now why didnt some red flag go up and say wtf is he up to but nope they kept on training them to fly
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:19 AM   #10
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Alot of you people remind me of a part in Jaws.

Chief Brody wanted to shut the beach down because that girl that died looked like a shark attack. The mayor and the business people then had a fit because it was going to cost them money.

They opened the beach, then that little boy got killed, and the mother slaps Chief Brody across the face. "You knew a girl got killed here last week, how could you open the beach?".


basically, damned if you do, damned if you dont.
Well if you truly want security you have to do what has been proven to work and that is security on every flight.

All this bullshit at the airport where they have old ladies remove their shoes and try not to stop middle eastern men because it will look like they are being singled out etc.

Well guess what if there is another attack it will be middle eastern men.

ELAL security doesnt give a shit what who will think, they have real security on each flight and the attemopts that have been the attackers where killed or shot.
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Old 01-02-2004, 09:22 AM   #11
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Short of martial law and armed guards everywhere at every building and on every plane you'll never stop terrorism because this government will never stop it's way of exploitation. The US government is the worlds biggest supporter of terrorism and won't stop itself.
look out! here comes the brain trust.
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