Hi Shemp, I think I proved your point. I have a number of TGPs and two databases. One is all my own stuff. There are a ton of reasons to have others posting. SEO, A wide selection of porn and style etc.

Somehow, I think if Sleazy where in the thread he'd call one of us an idiot though. LOL

JJJ has been around for awhile and I THINK the rules are different if you've been doing this since the 90s. Would thehun make it if he started today? Better put, would thehun look the same with the same biz plan?

I think JJJ has tons of bookmark traffic. I don't know for sure how he does it.

I think many of the hosted galleries get worn out fast. Plus, not all of them are that great!!

Sure would like to hear what JJJ has to say about it.

i swear i read this before somewhere??

Maybe pornworf was trying quote me?

seems like there is a set of Elite TGPs - PK, Elephant, Shemp, thehun, JJJ, Tommy's, World and so on. They support each other for the most part. Appears hard to break in to those real big numbers.

Can anyone name a TGP that really competes with the legends that started after say 2000?

No, this is a quote.

89.com - don't remember seeing them around early on? Maybe I just missed them?

Some have faded it seems - pure-xtc for example

The big man, Sleazydream.

He's an exception to everything - has done well for sure - sells every pixel on his site I'd bet. Plus ya gotta pay him to wear your free T-Shirt

depends on too many different things

$50/month

thaaat much ?

what do you expect? :winkwink:

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2k$/month with a 100K tgp purely hosted/own galleries.. are you on crack?:thumbsup

I don't think he's on crack. I use hosted galleries and accept no submission. Based on what I have made I suggest that you should make $500 per month per 10,000 hits per day.
So that's $5,000 per month for your 100k tgp.

Look at it like this 10,000 hits per day is 300,000 hits per month. That's a third of a million hits per month if you can't pull $500 out of that then you are using the wrong hosted galleries or you are trading traffic with a hit bot.
Or consider posting a single gallery on the hun for 300,000 hits; wouldn't you expect 15-20 signups and at $35/signup that's
$525-$700.
If your TGP gets less signups then a single gallery with two banners then you need better targeting of your traffic.
For example, Id rather have 100k hits of interracial traffic then 200K of general traffic because I need more banners to target the general traffic. So I wouldn't be able to target every surfer that hit my site. But with only interracial traffic I can target every single surfer with a single banner at the top.

Also, I would realy look into if you are being "hit botted" I deleted 5 trades the other day after my signups went south and low and behold the signups came right back. They were big trades so I was sending my bigggest lump of real traffic to the hit bots. You can't make money by trading real hits for fake ones.

Vanilla is Playmate pretty.. I'm impressed..

funny thing is I get about 450k/day with no trades.. all se, bookmarks, returns, and tgp recips and I never really did much except add some banners until now... I think I'll add some permanent SHGs... maybe I'll finally make some money off it

100K A DAY TGP = $ 14 dollars and fifty cents after you pay your hosting. so 14.5 x 30 = $435 per month you keep before taxes.

This is the worst case senario: plain TGP traffic only!

And you work 15 hrs reveiwing galleries and worrying about the server going down, as if it does you are up shit creek with no on to help you so you can stress out and Smoke More! Nuff Said!

So by your theory the hun and thumbzilla must make $45.00 since they have three times that traffic.

Also, I worry about my server going down no matter what kind of site I run.

How much you make depends on the quality of your traffic and the conversion rate of the programs you are promoting...no real set number for this but you should be $2K or more

by using hosted galleries or submissions from others your hosting shouldnt be all that expensive unless you like all kinds of graphics on your tgp