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Nothing really, they where just stealing Iraqi oil and refusing to stop there practice.

For example, on one board I was accused of being an anti-Semite because I questioned the practice of rabbis sucking blood from babies' penises, an accepted practice in Judaism.

SUCKING

In other words, any little criticism or question of Jews, the State of Israel, or the religion of Judaism, should not justify accusations of anti-Semitism; to be so blindly obedient to and defensive of any one religion, tradition, nation, or people, no matter what, is foolish and dangerous, in my belief, even if we happen to identify with them on some levels.

If we do that, we are no better than the Nazis or Communists or other fanatics who failed miserably throughout history.

I see. So, if the kurds start killing shiites, it's the US's fault?

International Socialist Review - Now, that's a good source of information :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Today, in Iraq????


YES

Even more if they supply the weapons....

You can hurl insults all day long, but the fact is, the British GAVE UP on Palestine because the situation became too hard to manage. There is ample documentation of Jewish terrorism prior to the creation of the State of Israel, and of human rights abuses after. Do a search on the UN website and you'll find plenty.

Difference is that the US doesn't allow armed militias free access to shiite areas.

Besides, who the hell created the Phalangists? If it wasn't for the Mossad, there wouldn't even be such a militia.

No, they gave up Israel because the Jewish people needed a place and the whole world agreed!

No, they are just a buffer between the 2

So weak arguments!!!

Here is a google link to over 10 pages, including from a rabbi I personally know:

google link: http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie... Search&meta=

Rabbi Lerner opinion:

http://www.nimn.org/jewishper/ml1.html

Probably a false rabbi, or an islamic one...lol

Sure, is that why the British tried to stop ships with Jewish people from entering Israel?

No, just one of those few thousands crazy Jews who are against the existence of Israel.

I could find a few thousands crazy Canadians who are for the evacuation of all Indian occupied territories.

Wasn't Sharon judged responsible by an Israeli court for the massacres? I guess the judges are biased :)

everyone talks about this issue as if there is an innocent party. i dont think there is. "right" and "wrong" is just a question of chronoligical order and where you decide to stop on the timeline.

who cares?

let them kill each other. I dont exactly see EITHER side... Palestinian OR Isreali saying "hey man, we need peace... we need International help, we need UN peacekeepers and we need to all just get along"

in fact, the opposite is happening... each side always has the same story... "we kill them because..."

its boring.
its old.
its the same arguements... the same defenses... the same blame games for thousands of years.

People outside of the region could not even begin to comprehend any more than Americans can claim to understand the trauma, devistation and suffering that occured in Europe during WWII.

Might makes right. Thats just a sad fact of evolution and the origin of our species.

Amazing how many people type it.... but ill never hear it from nobody in person...pussies

The Jewish people were offered many places, including large sections of Germany.

However, Zionists wanted Palestine, at the expense of native Palestinians, in order to fulfill their own plans of Manifest Destiny and to be able to declare Messiah at the chosen time.

Bringing Moshiach is the goal; if you are a Jew, you must agree.

Survival first. Peace second.

Start getting a general education before bluntly showing your ignorance....

You can't re-write history to suit your beliefs....

Maybe you should read the history,
1. Persia is Iran not Iraq, '
The country has always been known to its own people as Iran (land of the Aryans), although for centuries it was referred to as Persia (Pars or Fars, a province in southern Iran) by the Europeans, mainly due to the writings of Greek historians. In 1935 the Government specified that it should be called Iran; however, in 1949 they allowed both names to be used.
source http://www.art-arena.com/history.html

2.history of Kuwait
3rd century BCE: Greeks colonize the island Faylaka.
1710 CE: The traditionally counted foundation of Kuwait, when the city of Kuwait was established by immigrants (Aniza) from the Arabian peninsula.
note- Arabian peninsula is made up of
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Oman, and Yemen.

1756: The Sabah dynasty is established with a shaykh as the leader. The shaykhdom is nominally under Ottoman rule, but has de facto independence.
1899: When the Ottoman empire tries to take control over the shaykhdom with German aid, the shaykh asks for British assistance and protection, which he gets.
1914: Britain recognize the independence of Kuwait. Wahhabis of Najd in Arabia attack Kuwait after this.
1921: Peace between Kuwait and the Wahhabis is restored, after the British gave aid to Kuwait.
1922: Neutral zone established between Kuwait and Arabia.
1923: Borders between Iraq and Kuwait are drawn on the map.
1938: Petroleum is discovered.
1946: Gulf Oil Corporation, British and US owned, starts extraction of oil.
1951: The Kuwaiti shyakh gets control of half of the oil revenues, money that were used for developing the infrastructure and welfare services.
1961 June 19: End of British protection, the shaykh changes his title to emir.
? Kuwait joins the Arab League. Iraq objects strongly to this and claims that Kuwait is part of their territory.
? December: An assembly is set down to draft a constitution.
1963 January: The constitution is proclaimed. According to this, the emir has the executive power, organized with a group of ministers.
? January 23: A national assembly is elected.
? October: Iraq gives up its claim on Kuwait.
source http://i-cias.com/e.o/kuwait_5.htm

As far as the current situation , there will never be peace there until one side annihilates the other

Tell that to the Israeli people who get shot at by IDF soldiers while demonstrating with Palestinians hand-in-hand. Lots of people want peace and there sacrifices shall not be in vein. They both deserve to live happily in there country.

Native Palestinians??? There is no such thing as a native Palestinian, there are Jews living is Israel that have roots dating back to before Jesus. Palestine is an invention of the league of nations and Great Britain.
The true Palestine is Jordan, which is 95% Palestinians and is ruled by a family who was introduced there in the late 40's by Saudi Arabia, as a gift from the Allied for "Service Rendered" during WW2.

1938: Kuwaiti parliament vote to reunite with Iraq. The King refuses.

Why is it that everytime there's an important decision to be made in Kuwait, the parliament gets dissolved?

I don't want to get into a pissing contest, but :

http://members.aol.com/xpus/Iraq.html

This is going way before my time...:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Your article is also quite interesting.

There is much documentation of non-Jews in that region being pushed off of their lands, having homes destroyed, etc. on the UN website, and even Bush has recently condemned such actions taken to establish Israeli settlements.

This is not saying that there were no Jews in the region prior to this; it is saying that non-Jews who are in the region have suffered human rights violations under a new flavor of Manifest Destiny, a Zionist one, which has little to do with some Jews who have lived in the region for centuries.

Israel is the place for the jewish people...
Germany? Are you that stupid? Isn't that the place with the most nazi groups in the world? Isn't there where the holocast generated?

No it's not, a country doesn't all of a sudden become the place for a people just because there ancestors lived in it. Do you see Americans taking over Britain?

WTF, why do ANY children have to die? :helpme

their sacrifices ARE in vain. the MAJORITY of people on both sides are clearly not interested in peace. Arafat is not interested in peace. Hamas is not interested in peace. Islamic Jihad is not interested in peace, Sharon and his government is not interested in peace, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade is not interested in peace, Islam itself demands the Jews be destroyed and removed from the region.

why would you suggest thier deaths are not in vain? of course they are. I can protest against the rising of the sun all day long and get killed for that...but its pretty ignorant to hope the sun won't rise just to make some sense of my death.

Ask Yasser

Not much to argue here about... the ugly thruth.

Interesting article there. Sure Iraq and Kuwait were part of the Persian empire, from being conquered. The Persian empire was started by Cyprus the Great. who founded Persia by uniting the two original Iranian Tribes- the Medes and the Persians. You can read more about it at history of Persia Iraq was the Babylonian empire. Here's a map for reference.
http://www.crystalinks.com/persian_empiremap.gif
notice the Persian homeland in Iran.

I've seen enough shit and dumb people in my life to know that you're right. Oh well, perhaps they will live peacefully in a century or so.

:ak47: blood suckers

here is something i believe in.

the "super organism"

Societies themselves act as organisms... much in the same way bacteria, viruses, single celled organisms or the most primitive life forms act. the first priority of any organism is its own defense and survival. it's to be expected. that is true of any society that faces any real threat. its next order of business is to grow, expand and procreate all of which better enable it to survive and thrive in the future.

survival of the fittest.

looking at the Middle East issue in terms of "right and wrong" is pretty silly in my opinion. it does not address the basic behaviors of a society and people that will not change.. that is the most basic instinct, hardwired into our beings that demands that the organism survives. in humans that means first as and individual, then children and then as a society.

I am not saying that Isreal is right to expand its borders and keep palestinians under their thumb. I am saying that it is a behavior that is quite normal and to be expected.

Finger pointing and blaming people for rights and wrongs will not change the basic behavior of Palestinians or Arabs wanting to increase their power and influence in the region and in the world... while diminishing that of Isreal. Palestinians as a general rule will not stop at mere "peace" or the existence of a Palestinian State. Instead, it that achievement will merely become a stepping stone to what they will hope to be bigger and better things... more power, more prestige, more influence and a better ability to lash out and increase their own sphere of influence, defend themselves, grow, evolve and eventually challenge its neighbors to ensure its own survival.

A society is a virus.

There cannot be peace in the region because religion and simple geography will not allow it. As long as Isreal exists right in the center of land that is sacred to two or more opposing religions... those religions that form the very glue that bond their societies together, its existence will always be a threat to its neighbors. Isreal cannot allow Palestinians to have their own state or to be strong... it would be the same as handing a handgun to a guy who is trying to rape you. No good can come of it. It will just increase the threat to Isreal which would go against primary directive of any organism - survival. that means minimizing or eliminating threats, not encouraging or strenthening them ..... not saying its right or wrong... just saying its a reality that is not addressed in the rhetoric and utopianistic views of how things should be.

The only real solution is the ugliest solution in my opinion. That is for them to fight and end it.

Peace as a general rule, comes through war.

I always bet on Darwinism.

why so many replied on fucken stupied subject ?

Enjoy the new year !!!

when will we admit the fact that jews run USA? :helpme

Israel is the place for Jewish people...says who, the Torah? :1orglaugh

As if you really follow it. :throwup

Hahaha.

If people are persecuted in a certain region, that is the region they deserve. Nothing more, nothing less.

Hey, let's go help set up a hip-hop regime in Africa because Black people were persecuted in America.

That's just as stupid as what some of us are doing with Israel.

My dad calls a cash register a "Jewish Piano". That mean he's an anti-semite?

Thats a really retarded replay!

Man, you talk about these lands like it was the Brits' to give, and then everyone wonders why the arabs hate us?

If anything, the British gave up their 'claim' to the region, no doubt while they were expecting the German invasion. Armies are not cheap you know.

Stupid comment. Everyone with an ICQ above 100 knows that the US is way worse.

It already exists, its called Liberia.

Really? Everyone??? Gee whiz! It's awfully presumptuous of you to speak for me, don't you think?

The disclaimer was IQ above 100. I didnt think that included you ? :Graucho

When you "assume" you make an "ass" out of "u" and "me".

Actually - quoting that tends just to make an "ass" out of you :1orglaugh

Sorry, I thought I needed to make it easy for you to follow the joke.

Apology accepted.