Pros and Cons of downloadable movies on paysites? - GoFuckYourself.com

TomsPics · 12-27-2003, 04:49 PM

Soom sites allow you to download the movies, some only allow you to stream. I would imagine the only reason some paysites allow downloading of movies is to prevent trial chargebacks from the freeloaders maybe? What do you guys think?

vapewiz · 12-27-2003, 05:03 PM

Best way is to use DRM and let them download the movies and only watch them if they are active members.

BV · 12-27-2003, 05:04 PM

i think dial up users like to download and then play

AaronM · 12-27-2003, 05:07 PM

All of the above.

tootie · 12-27-2003, 05:09 PM

I joined a movie paysite once several years ago and then requested a refund of the trial price because NONE of the movies were downloadable. I was on dialup and streaming the movies took SOOOOO long, but if I could have set 3 or 4 movies to download to my system and been doing something else, then I could have viewed them later. I would have stayed a member so that I could download 3 or 4 movies a week.

But that streaming crap sucked. The movies were boring, the sizes were too small and they would constantly lock up and pause for several seconds at a time. I hate streaming movies, even now that I have broadband.

I would never recur to a site that had only streaming movies.

Libertine · 12-27-2003, 05:09 PM

Most people prefer downloads over streaming. Streaming, even on cable, has the tendency to lag and be of relatively bad quality.

richard · 12-27-2003, 05:09 PM

A recent email from one of my members:

Hi,

Just want to say your site is the best value site I've seen - I am mystified by other sites going for streaming media in a big way, as this is utter rubbish and a waste of money. Downloadable video is what I like, and you have plenty of it - keep it up, and don't fall for the streaming deals that make it look like there's loads of content but what you end up with is some jerky piece of rubbish running via an applet that keeps breaking off! I have never, and will never renew my membership to any site whose content is predominantly streaming media, but I will definitely be renewing my membership to your site...

Nuff said...

Thanks

As the man says... nuff said

Coolman · 12-27-2003, 05:15 PM

i guess streaming movie sites make a lot of $$$ - lot more then downloadable

directfiesta · 12-27-2003, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by richard
A recent email from one of my members:

Hi,

Just want to say your site is the best value site I've seen - I am mystified by other sites going for streaming media in a big way, as this is utter rubbish and a waste of money. Downloadable video is what I like, and you have plenty of it - keep it up, and don't fall for the streaming deals that make it look like there's loads of content but what you end up with is some jerky piece of rubbish running via an applet that keeps breaking off! I have never, and will never renew my membership to any site whose content is predominantly streaming media, but I will definitely be renewing my membership to your site...

Nuff said...

Thanks

As the man says... nuff said

I got this a few days ago:

Quote:

Well ..
I just joined this site and it looks like a high-qality site .
Excellent Quality-films and DSl-Downloads !
2 or 4 Mbit are now very useful for your site .
an offer i just waited for ...
german member from Hamburg

He is happy and converted the 8.95 Euros 3 days trial to a monthly membership...

BlackCrayon · 12-27-2003, 05:22 PM

personally the only kind of site i would join would be a large downloadable movie site. streaming has its pros and cons but for the most part, is not something the surfer wants. sure you keep him coming back and staying a member but if your site was quality and what he/she wanted, they would stay anyhow. streaming uses up bandwidth i would imagine when someone could of just downloaded it once and had it on their machine.

SoundMan · 12-27-2003, 07:01 PM

I set a daily download limit, so far so good..

Stewie · 12-27-2003, 08:07 PM

We have made our streaming clips downloadable as well, based on member feedback. There are a lot of dial up guys still out there, plus recurring members love to save their fav clips for quick play. We still offer streams, but the download option is a big plus with our members.

spooky181 · 12-27-2003, 09:40 PM

Downloadable vids are a must for members. If you only offer streaming vids then the members that do cancel will never return, however if you have downloadable vids then the members that do cancel quite often rejoin a few months later to see what new vids you have to download..

[CriM] · 12-27-2003, 09:48 PM

I'm On Dailup and i Must say Streaming Video's Give me the Shits!! You wait minute or two then you see 3 seconds of the movie wait 10 seconds and then see another 3 seconds! Defentailty Downloadable Movies are the way to go for Dail-up Users!

TomsPics · 12-27-2003, 10:08 PM

Thanks for all the replies, I think i'm going to give the downloadable option an try, once thats in place i'll work on streaming options and monitor what gets clicked. Thanks.

- AFN - · 12-27-2003, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cutetwink
Best way is to use DRM and let them download the movies and only watch them if they are active members.

Is that a bulletproof solution?

- AFN - · 12-28-2003, 06:53 PM

Tom, offtopic... how much do you charge for hand submissions for TGPs? How many TGPs?

Quote:

Originally posted by TomsPics
Soom sites allow you to download the movies, some only allow you to stream. I would imagine the only reason some paysites allow downloading of movies is to prevent trial chargebacks from the freeloaders maybe? What do you guys think?

Zappu · 12-29-2003, 02:31 AM

As far as I know (we are only given the streamed content to webmasters) a lot of users prefer it to have a chance to download the video. Also many users still have problems with the online videos, mostly regarding bandwith. For e.g. when a modem user like to get a DSL stream, he will get the Audio only via streaming the clip, but on download he will be able to get a full screen video.
The best solution will be if you can offer both, streaming and download.

jas1552 · 12-29-2003, 03:04 AM

Streaming sucks and should mainly be used as filler content IMO.

mrmovie · 12-29-2003, 06:12 PM

I sale only downloadable MPG files. They are the best and surfers love them Streaming sucks for my sites. I dont use it.

12-27-2003, 04:49 PM	#1
TomsPics Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 498	Pros and Cons of downloadable movies on paysites? Soom sites allow you to download the movies, some only allow you to stream. I would imagine the only reason some paysites allow downloading of movies is to prevent trial chargebacks from the freeloaders maybe? What do you guys think? __________________ ICQ: 8218548

12-27-2003, 05:09 PM	#5
tootie Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Planet Earp Posts: 6,041	I joined a movie paysite once several years ago and then requested a refund of the trial price because NONE of the movies were downloadable. I was on dialup and streaming the movies took SOOOOO long, but if I could have set 3 or 4 movies to download to my system and been doing something else, then I could have viewed them later. I would have stayed a member so that I could download 3 or 4 movies a week. But that streaming crap sucked. The movies were boring, the sizes were too small and they would constantly lock up and pause for several seconds at a time. I hate streaming movies, even now that I have broadband. I would never recur to a site that had only streaming movies. __________________ Last edited by tootie; 12-27-2003 at 05:20 PM..

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Libertine sex dwarf Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 17,860	Most people prefer downloads over streaming. Streaming, even on cable, has the tendency to lag and be of relatively bad quality. __________________ /(bb\|[^b]{2})/

12-27-2003, 05:09 PM	#7
richard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: UK Posts: 543	A recent email from one of my members: Hi, Just want to say your site is the best value site I've seen - I am mystified by other sites going for streaming media in a big way, as this is utter rubbish and a waste of money. Downloadable video is what I like, and you have plenty of it - keep it up, and don't fall for the streaming deals that make it look like there's loads of content but what you end up with is some jerky piece of rubbish running via an applet that keeps breaking off! I have never, and will never renew my membership to any site whose content is predominantly streaming media, but I will definitely be renewing my membership to your site... Nuff said... Thanks As the man says... nuff said __________________

12-27-2003, 05:22 PM	#10
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	personally the only kind of site i would join would be a large downloadable movie site. streaming has its pros and cons but for the most part, is not something the surfer wants. sure you keep him coming back and staying a member but if your site was quality and what he/she wanted, they would stay anyhow. streaming uses up bandwidth i would imagine when someone could of just downloaded it once and had it on their machine. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

12-27-2003, 05:03 PM	#2
vapewiz Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,530	Best way is to use DRM and let them download the movies and only watch them if they are active members.

12-27-2003, 05:04 PM	#3
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	i think dial up users like to download and then play

12-27-2003, 05:07 PM	#4
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	All of the above.

12-27-2003, 05:15 PM	#8
Coolman Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 69	i guess streaming movie sites make a lot of $$$ - lot more then downloadable

12-27-2003, 07:01 PM	#11
SoundMan So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MidWest Posts: 3,471	I set a daily download limit, so far so good..

12-27-2003, 08:07 PM	#12
Stewie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: In bed with Vanilla Posts: 3,670	We have made our streaming clips downloadable as well, based on member feedback. There are a lot of dial up guys still out there, plus recurring members love to save their fav clips for quick play. We still offer streams, but the download option is a big plus with our members.

12-27-2003, 09:40 PM	#13
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Downloadable vids are a must for members. If you only offer streaming vids then the members that do cancel will never return, however if you have downloadable vids then the members that do cancel quite often rejoin a few months later to see what new vids you have to download..

12-27-2003, 09:48 PM	#14
[CriM] Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71	I'm On Dailup and i Must say Streaming Video's Give me the Shits!! You wait minute or two then you see 3 seconds of the movie wait 10 seconds and then see another 3 seconds! Defentailty Downloadable Movies are the way to go for Dail-up Users!

12-27-2003, 10:08 PM	#15
TomsPics Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 498	Thanks for all the replies, I think i'm going to give the downloadable option an try, once thats in place i'll work on streaming options and monitor what gets clicked. Thanks. __________________ ICQ: 8218548

12-29-2003, 02:31 AM	#18
Zappu Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,556	As far as I know (we are only given the streamed content to webmasters) a lot of users prefer it to have a chance to download the video. Also many users still have problems with the online videos, mostly regarding bandwith. For e.g. when a modem user like to get a DSL stream, he will get the Audio only via streaming the clip, but on download he will be able to get a full screen video. The best solution will be if you can offer both, streaming and download. __________________ Zappu (ICQ: 23141467) European Erotik Content Archive CONTENT4FREE = CONTENT4CLICKS X JOIN NOW!

12-29-2003, 03:04 AM	#19
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	Streaming sucks and should mainly be used as filler content IMO.

12-29-2003, 06:12 PM	#20
mrmovie So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 396	I sale only downloadable MPG files. They are the best and surfers love them Streaming sucks for my sites. I dont use it.