What's most important in this business? - GoFuckYourself.com

GoGoBar · 12-28-2003, 12:08 PM

In order to be successful at being an adult webmaster?

In my opinion it's traffic, I've seen the shittiest sites make large amounts of money with the right amount of good traffic.

Can anyone make an arguement for anything else?

Morgan · 12-28-2003, 12:11 PM

I would say lots of traffic. not sure how much "good quality" traffic your talking about here.

TDF · 12-28-2003, 12:11 PM

quality over quantity..and the ability to sustain a steady income long enough to fund other projects and trends

GoGoBar · 12-28-2003, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ganjasaurus
I would say lots of traffic. not sure how much "good quality" traffic your talking about here.

I put both as more of a "is volume or quality more important" type arguement.

NoAngel · 12-28-2003, 12:13 PM

Voted 'female' giggle

Ozzymosis1 · 12-28-2003, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar

I put both as more of a "is volume or quality more important" type arguement.

I think it depends on the site and your goals. Some sites like tgps just need lots of traffic, other sites need good filtered traffic.

bopha · 12-28-2003, 12:59 PM

Good implants followed by traffic.

Mr Pheer · 12-28-2003, 01:02 PM

it takes a combination of things, not just any one thing is gonna do the trick

I would say lots of good quality traffic, experience, good site design and a little programming talent (or having someone with programming talent on your side)

Thats pretty much what has done it for me anyway

sumphatpimp · 12-28-2003, 01:03 PM

you need two things

lots of good traffic for sure but also you need the ability to sell.

if you can't sell then you aren't going to make it, website or any other biz.

the dollars are in the sales.

Corleone · 12-28-2003, 01:04 PM

ideas

wargames · 12-28-2003, 01:08 PM

Cash and lots of traffic. Makes it alot easier to come up

. Look at pro adult and voyeurweb. They had the cash and traffic which made pro adult a success

steve90 · 12-28-2003, 01:12 PM

lots of traffic

aflex · 12-28-2003, 01:44 PM

serious · 12-28-2003, 01:57 PM

good quality traffic, any idiot can make money as long as he has the traffic

HarlotCash Dyker · 12-28-2003, 01:58 PM

Whichever way you try to number any list of importance -
1) - Traffic Shit)
2) - Traffic Quality)
3) - Sustaining traffic)
4) - Trading all of the above, and emails and member details and buying more traffic and creating a unique member site with unique content and getting half decent models and updating every day with 50 mbs or more and looking after your members and looking after your partners and ensuring your server is shit fast at all times and and and and and.

Fuck knows - I know most programs simply list PROFIT as number 1
I try for customer satisfaction - That is why my rebills are far higher than most of the "bigger" prgrammes.

Pornwolf · 12-28-2003, 01:59 PM

Sizeable bankroll. Without that you can't buy the traffic needed to make real money.

Ross · 12-28-2003, 02:00 PM

You could easily say all of them are important really.

Without traffic you don't have money, or a big site. Without a nice productive site design you don't got traffic or money. Without money you got fuck all.

One factor determines some others. Its too hard to pick just one.

Suckitbitch · 12-28-2003, 02:04 PM

Shaving.

KRL · 12-28-2003, 03:14 PM

Traffic is # 1. If you have lots of it you can be a total putz and still make money.

Marketing and advertising skills are # 2. Having these helps you to maximize your revenues from your traffic.

Networking is very important in this industry. Knowing people can get you good deals.

Capital. Got to have some working capital just like in any business. Most plans don't go as planned so you have to have enough ammo in your clip to keep shooting till you find your target.

Management skills. Like capital, a must have for any entrepreneur that will end up succeeding in their ventures.

Integrity. This industry has very long memories.

TheJimmy · 12-28-2003, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GoGoBar
....

Can anyone make an arguement for anything else?

they COULD...but...

Nasty D · 12-28-2003, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Traffic is # 1. If you have lots of it you can be a total putz and still make money.

Marketing and advertising skills are # 2. Having these helps you to maximize your revenues from your traffic.

Networking is very important in this industry. Knowing people can get you good deals.

Capital. Got to have some working capital just like in any business. Most plans don't go as planned so you have to have enough ammo in your clip to keep shooting till you find your target.

Management skills. Like capital, a must have for any entrepreneur that will end up succeeding in their ventures.

Integrity. This industry has very long memories.

well said

ryph · 12-28-2003, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
quality over quantity..and the ability to sustain a steady income long enough to fund other projects and trends

Words to live by.

Kicker · 12-28-2003, 04:42 PM

Grey shit in the head

Trax · 12-28-2003, 04:48 PM

traffic for sure
thats what its all about

Vitasoy · 12-28-2003, 04:53 PM

quality traffic :-)

Rictor · 12-28-2003, 04:55 PM

Start-up capital
Experience
People skills

chemicaleyes · 12-28-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rictor
Start-up capital
Experience
People skills

& Lots of Traffic

sexysphere · 12-28-2003, 05:26 PM

Experience, With it you can do everything you want

but it takes time...

QualityMpegs · 12-28-2003, 05:27 PM

Lots of good quality traffic to a good design with fresh exclusive content never ever ever been seen before.

axelcat · 12-28-2003, 05:28 PM

traffic traffic traffic

Jive · 12-28-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toodamnfli
quality over quantity..and the ability to sustain a steady income long enough to fund other projects and trends

Good answer! also funding for other projects is swell.. too.

owning alot of good trophy typein names.. and smart enough in buying them when they come up forsale? I see alot of quality names that are a once in alifetime offer up for grabs. opening your wallet to secure your future I'm might add is a logical move..

purchasing good names boosts not only your traffic+wallet+value

there's really never a loss only to gain..my

good evening all..

SubSonic · 12-28-2003, 05:32 PM

I think you need it all. You cant convert with shitloads of quality traffic and a shitty design. Without time you cant build up anything.

I'll take a mix of all of them

Theo · 12-28-2003, 05:33 PM

Real marketing skills and money.

Jive · 12-28-2003, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by axelcat
traffic traffic traffic

you gota have quality or there goes your bandwith if your keeping it inhouse?
and you have to watch what or who is getting the traffic so they don't try to burn you! or shave you? he.he. to many scumbag sponsors out online now adays..

Mutt · 12-28-2003, 06:16 PM

typical - not one mention of content.

the next era of the adult Net is all about content - already happening.

adultwebware · 12-28-2003, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexysphere
Experience, With it you can do everything you want

but it takes time...

yea, experience is what you get instead of what you have planned to get and always after the time it was needed

Mr.Fiction · 12-28-2003, 06:51 PM

Ask the person who owns the domain Sex.com.

MetaMan · 12-28-2003, 07:16 PM

i would have to say design and content,
i see very few sites that i am impressed with the setup of the design to go with the content.

usually high quality content sells itself. and a quality design to go along with it is always a plus.

ztik · 12-28-2003, 07:24 PM

If you have a good product it will sell. Regardless of how "good" or "bad" the traffic is.

Mr.Fiction · 12-28-2003, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ztik
If you have a good product it will sell. Regardless of how "good" or "bad" the traffic is.

Really bad traffic could mean Chinese. You will have a hard time selling anything to that group.

ztik · 12-28-2003, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction

Really bad traffic could mean Chinese. You will have a hard time selling anything to that group.

Yeah, true. I was mainly speaking of general US traffic

Abyss_Vee · 12-28-2003, 07:30 PM

i would say,, All of the Above

MetaformX · 12-28-2003, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Real marketing skills and money.

so basically being MetaformX?

Gruntled · 12-28-2003, 07:34 PM

The most important thing in this business I've noticed is Experience. Experience tells you the right time to get into a new niche or throw more at an existing site, and when to sell it off, and start over again. Like any business, you have to know the waters, and anticipate the waves.

- AFN - · 12-28-2003, 07:39 PM

Integrity. WILL. You'd be surprised at how many people on this board spend their days dreaming without lifting a finger to realize their dreams.

If you have an innovative new program/traffic system, make the effort and have the will to turn your aspirations into hard reality.

There's so many cheap designers, data entry labor guys, submitters, etc on this board to help you make your projects reality. Just scrounge some cash together and make it happen!

TheSaint · 12-28-2003, 07:45 PM

None of the above. In my experience its is kick ass content that sells a site. The design can be shity, the traffic lame, but if you have unique compelling content the world will ever so slowly but steadfastly beat a path to your door.

xxxoutsourcing · 12-28-2003, 08:00 PM

me me me & me.....

Rorschach · 12-28-2003, 08:07 PM

For me personally it is a combo of programming, capital and marketing ability. Programming gets the traffic, but you need to have capital to invest in domains and hosting, and the marketing ability to convert it to generate the ROI you're looking for.

If I was to start at ground zero again - I would say management skills and capital. I would pay people to do my programming, build my traffic, do my marketing.

View Poll Results: What's most important in this business?
Good Quality Traffic	25	37.88%
Lots of Traffic	16	24.24%
Experience	7	10.61%
Having the Right Friends	6	9.09%
A Sizeable Bankroll	3	4.55%
Good Site Design	0	0%
Design Talent	0	0%
Programming Talent	0	0%
Being Female	4	6.06%
Posting/People Skills	1	1.52%
Lots of Free Time	1	1.52%
Other	3	4.55%
Voters: 66. You may not vote on this poll

12-28-2003, 12:08 PM	#1
GoGoBar Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 1,439	What's most important in this business? In order to be successful at being an adult webmaster? In my opinion it's traffic, I've seen the shittiest sites make large amounts of money with the right amount of good traffic. Can anyone make an arguement for anything else?

12-28-2003, 12:11 PM	#2
Morgan Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Corona Del Mar, CA Posts: 10,520	I would say lots of traffic. not sure how much "good quality" traffic your talking about here. __________________ PornstarPlatinum.com \| TransErotica.com

12-28-2003, 12:11 PM	#3
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	quality over quantity..and the ability to sustain a steady income long enough to fund other projects and trends __________________ Sig heil

12-28-2003, 12:13 PM	#5
NoAngel Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 333	Voted 'female' giggle __________________ The place for (No)Angels - Always New Models and Faces Custom and Exclusive Photo-Video Content ICQ:335332443

12-28-2003, 12:59 PM	#7
bopha Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,882	Good implants followed by traffic.

12-28-2003, 01:02 PM	#8
Mr Pheer So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,083	it takes a combination of things, not just any one thing is gonna do the trick I would say lots of good quality traffic, experience, good site design and a little programming talent (or having someone with programming talent on your side) Thats pretty much what has done it for me anyway Last edited by Mr Pheer; 12-28-2003 at 01:05 PM..

12-28-2003, 01:03 PM	#9
sumphatpimp Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,235	you need two things lots of good traffic for sure but also you need the ability to sell. if you can't sell then you aren't going to make it, website or any other biz. the dollars are in the sales.

12-28-2003, 01:04 PM	#10
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	ideas

12-28-2003, 01:08 PM	#11
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	Cash and lots of traffic. Makes it alot easier to come up . Look at pro adult and voyeurweb. They had the cash and traffic which made pro adult a success __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

12-28-2003, 01:12 PM	#12
steve90 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: California Posts: 2,397	lots of traffic

12-28-2003, 01:44 PM	#13
aflex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New Jersey - adaptweb at gmail.com Posts: 3,127	$$

12-28-2003, 01:57 PM	#14
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	good quality traffic, any idiot can make money as long as he has the traffic __________________ new search

12-28-2003, 01:58 PM	#15
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Whichever way you try to number any list of importance - 1) - Traffic Shit) 2) - Traffic Quality) 3) - Sustaining traffic) 4) - Trading all of the above, and emails and member details and buying more traffic and creating a unique member site with unique content and getting half decent models and updating every day with 50 mbs or more and looking after your members and looking after your partners and ensuring your server is shit fast at all times and and and and and. Fuck knows - I know most programs simply list PROFIT as number 1 I try for customer satisfaction - That is why my rebills are far higher than most of the "bigger" prgrammes. __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

12-28-2003, 01:59 PM	#16
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Sizeable bankroll. Without that you can't buy the traffic needed to make real money. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

12-28-2003, 02:00 PM	#17
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	You could easily say all of them are important really. Without traffic you don't have money, or a big site. Without a nice productive site design you don't got traffic or money. Without money you got fuck all. One factor determines some others. Its too hard to pick just one.

12-28-2003, 02:04 PM	#18
Suckitbitch Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 278	Shaving.

12-28-2003, 03:14 PM	#19
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Traffic is # 1. If you have lots of it you can be a total putz and still make money. Marketing and advertising skills are # 2. Having these helps you to maximize your revenues from your traffic. Networking is very important in this industry. Knowing people can get you good deals. Capital. Got to have some working capital just like in any business. Most plans don't go as planned so you have to have enough ammo in your clip to keep shooting till you find your target. Management skills. Like capital, a must have for any entrepreneur that will end up succeeding in their ventures. Integrity. This industry has very long memories. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

12-28-2003, 04:42 PM	#23
Kicker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TakeBucks.com - Porn Star Academy Posts: 7,040	Grey shit in the head __________________ TakeBucks.com and Real-Bucks.com *65% \| $30 PPS \| 10% referral!!!* TryAnalFisting.com - ratio is 1:85. No joke! ========================= Alex Affiliate Manager support@takebucks_dot_com

12-28-2003, 04:48 PM	#24
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	traffic for sure thats what its all about

12-28-2003, 04:53 PM	#25
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	quality traffic :-) __________________ [email protected]

12-28-2003, 04:55 PM	#26
Rictor Old Timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 12,208	Start-up capital Experience People skills

12-28-2003, 05:26 PM	#28
sexysphere Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Everywhere behind you Posts: 769	Experience, With it you can do everything you want but it takes time... __________________ PaRaDiGm

12-28-2003, 05:27 PM	#29
QualityMpegs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,521	Lots of good quality traffic to a good design with fresh exclusive content never ever ever been seen before. __________________ PAYSITES CATEGORIZED AND THUMBNAILED BY NICHE - 69767780

12-28-2003, 05:28 PM	#30
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	traffic traffic traffic

12-28-2003, 05:32 PM	#32
SubSonic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain / ICQ: 474-520-926 Posts: 1,383	I think you need it all. You cant convert with shitloads of quality traffic and a shitty design. Without time you cant build up anything. I'll take a mix of all of them

12-28-2003, 05:33 PM	#33
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Real marketing skills and money.

12-28-2003, 06:16 PM	#35
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	typical - not one mention of content. the next era of the adult Net is all about content - already happening. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-28-2003, 06:51 PM	#37
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Ask the person who owns the domain Sex.com. __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

12-28-2003, 07:16 PM	#38
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	i would have to say design and content, i see very few sites that i am impressed with the setup of the design to go with the content. usually high quality content sells itself. and a quality design to go along with it is always a plus.

12-28-2003, 07:24 PM	#39
ztik Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Nomad Posts: 5,196	If you have a good product it will sell. Regardless of how "good" or "bad" the traffic is. __________________ .

12-28-2003, 07:30 PM	#42
Abyss_Vee Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 5,208	i would say,, All of the Above

12-28-2003, 07:34 PM	#44
Gruntled Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 358	The most important thing in this business I've noticed is Experience. Experience tells you the right time to get into a new niche or throw more at an existing site, and when to sell it off, and start over again. Like any business, you have to know the waters, and anticipate the waves. __________________

12-28-2003, 07:39 PM	#45
- AFN - Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NYC Baaaabeee Posts: 3,101	Integrity. WILL. You'd be surprised at how many people on this board spend their days dreaming without lifting a finger to realize their dreams. If you have an innovative new program/traffic system, make the effort and have the will to turn your aspirations into hard reality. There's so many cheap designers, data entry labor guys, submitters, etc on this board to help you make your projects reality. Just scrounge some cash together and make it happen! __________________ cat cash* \| tr -d '\r' \| tr -s '/n' > money

12-28-2003, 07:45 PM	#46
TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	None of the above. In my experience its is kick ass content that sells a site. The design can be shity, the traffic lame, but if you have unique compelling content the world will ever so slowly but steadfastly beat a path to your door. __________________ I have no signature