Amazing thread. The concept is VERY simple. The legal implications are VERY simple. Seems to me that makes anyone failing to understand the points made about supplying porn to minors VERY simple too. Interesting that so many people are happy to spend whole threads intentionally making themselves look stupid. :glugglug

and youre as stupid as he is

Under English common law the age of majority was twenty-one. Today, in most states the age of majority for contract purposes is eighteen. However, a minor can enter into any contract as long as its subject matter is legal for a minor. Minors cannot contract to buy alcohol but a minor can contract to rent an apartment. Generally, the difference between contracting with a minor and with an adult is a contract with a minor is voidable by the minor. In effect the minor can choose to keep or not keep the promises he or she makes. The adult who contracts with a minor does not have the same choice. This seems very one-sided but, for obvious reasons, the objective is to discourage adults from entering into contracts with minors.
Once a minor reaches the age of majority the rules change. Shortly after reaching the age of majority the minor must decide to affirm or disaffirm any previously existing contract. All that is required is the minor, by words or action, demonstrate intent to affirm or disaffirm the contract. For instance, continuing to make payments, or discontinuing payments, would demonstrate that intent.
There are some exceptions to the above. They are the duty of restoration and the duty of restitution. Also, what happens if the minor lies about his or her age and what are the effects of emancipation on the power to contract?
First, according to the duty of restoration, if a minor disaffirms a contract he or she must return any goods or other consideration they have received. That is, as long as the goods are still in their possession and even if they are damaged.
In a few states the duty of restitution applies. In such states any minor disaffirming a contract must return the adult with whom they have contracted to his or her former position. Not only must they return any goods still in their possession but also make compensation for damaged goods, goods no longer in their possession or for any other consideration received. This approach protects adults from minors who would try to take advantage of their favored position.
What if a minor lies about their age? It depends on the state. In the majority of states minors can still disaffirm the contract and cannot be sued for the tort of misrepresentation. In some states minors may disaffirm but they can be held liable for misrepresentation. In other states minors may disaffirm the contract if they can make restoration. But there are states, on the other hand, that will not allow disaffirmance at all.
Emancipation frees a minor from the control of his or her parents and gives them the right to their own earnings and to purchase property. Emancipation, though, does not always affect a minor's capacity to contract. Minors can contract for necessities, food, housing, clothing, and etc., and they can disaffirm these contracts, however, they are responsible for the reasonable value of these goods. The law makes minors responsible for the value of necessaries because it wants minors to be able to purchase these goods. The key is whether the goods are necessaries. If the contract is not for necessaries, the minor, emancipated or not, may not be liable.


That one is another long read, but go nuts.

Thank you LM! Exactly. Minors CAN enter into contracts, regardless of what Jim's cracker jack law education has told him.

I think some may have been playing "Devil's Advocate".......

Pad was being an idiot opening himself up for question...... whatever the legal ramifications

Some people like to argue just to hear themselves though :P

Yes, but they can ONLY enter legal contracts where the subject material is legal for them to do so, and in a court of law most contracts made with minors hold NO water, so it leaves the ADULTS on the other end holding the bag. Yep, sounds like a contract I'm gonna rush to be involved in.

I was definitely playing Devil's Advocate. It can be entertaining with armchair lawyers.

ok... and I made a lot of money without knowing anything about the biz... what is your point?

Not disagreeing with you. Was calling Jim's bluff.

youre now a liar

you got owned and now are back pedaling



and i can assure you im not an armchair lawyer. im in the top of my class and i do paralegal work daily.

youre owned, now shut up idiot before you look even dumber.

Lol. You are stirring the shit. Either way, really the kid has no legal place peddling porn. As for being here, Lensman should call his lawyer, but honestly I wouldn't even chance it if I was him. Why would anyone want to play with fire? As if this industry doesn't have enough bullshit to deal with. It's like begging for Ashfucker and his idiots to charge right in.

Supporting minors in any way, shape or form isn't playing devils advocate - it's being very stupid. Easy enough to see unless you're that dumb yourself. Appearing to support children in this industry, especially on a board this 'known' is as fucked up as the kids who put legitimate businesses at risk in the first place.

But then it's equally stupid to argue (as with the first post in this thread) that as an industry we should keep quiet about kids pushing porn and not 'attract attention'. That's the last thing we should every be doing, it simply gives the politicians yet more ammunition. We should make it VERY clear kids are not tolerated in any part of this industry. Again a simple point but it does take just a little intelligence to see it.

You know fuck all about me. I do this shit all the time dimwit. You're an armchair lawyer, nothing more. Go to a better law school. Quit wasting your time.

No - you were being very, very dumb. But then you don't have the intelligence to see that it seems.

For a 3rd year student and a paralegal...... this isnt much of a closing argument!!

Joking...... honest!! :thumbsup

i know youre a liar

i know your ignorance about the legalities of this industry is dangerous

i know your an idiot

i know youre a troll


thats enough right there.


fyi. indiana university school of law is first tier, #41 i believe this year.

yeah but its the truth

Anyone else promote ClickCash??

EVERY CHECK I GET SAYS:

"This check may not be cashed by a minor under the age of 18" ... right there on the front of the check.

Think this might solve a few problems? At least it's a little way to say "We tried, we don't want youngsters promoting for us. They can't legally cash our checks." ...

If all affiliates did this, I GUARANTEE it would scare off large amount of people under 18 who are trying to get into this business.

Of course, there are a lot of ways to get around it (... ATM?) but seems like a step in the right direction. Better than just crying about it and banning Pad.

Make it harder for underage people to make any money.


:2 cents:

-Phil

Tipsy don't make the mistake that anyone is condoning children working in the adult industry. Maybe you would feel more at home on a friendlier, censored board that doesn't allow free thought or controversial discussion. To clarify, my statements never even remotely inferred that anyone should hide the fact or keep quiet about "kids pushing porn." If I'm curious about something that someone else says, I'll ask for proof too. That isn't stupid, it's smart. More people should do a little research, and contact experts on matters of business and especially where legal issues are concerned. No one should take the advice of armchair lawyers. What is the harm in asking them to provide facts to back up their statements ? It should serve to further cement their comments as being factual.

only if they are emancipated by a court of law, and did you miss the part about THE SUBJECT MATTER NEEDS TO BE LEGAL FOR THE MINOR


Iwill take a crackerjack lawyer before I take someone that can't even reads opinion any day

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Thank you LM! Exactly. Minors CAN enter into contracts, regardless of what Jim's cracker jack law education has told him.

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you have surpassed stupid and entered into the realm of CRETIN

I would certainly hope so. I'm not even trying to pretend to give sound legal advice. Altho from what I've seen so far, I'd rather get my legal advice from LadyMischief than Jimsfiend if I had to choose one of the two.

Isn't he the prime minister ?

all youre doing is trolling

you have nothing significant to contribute to this thread or life in general. i wont bother responding to you any further.
youve proven how moronic you are to the nth degree over the last hour.



youre worthless.

ciao

Pad's really a 22 year old genius in disguise..don't let him fool you. When he reveals his true identity to all of you, you will love him more.

Watch out, I hear your mom in the next room. She's gonna be so pissed if she finds you jerking off on her WebTV again :1orglaugh

:helpme

Find where it's illegal for me to be posting here, the rules say 13+

stop enforcing non existant rules

`(3) Permitting access to transmit indecent material to a
minor: Any remote computer facility operator, electronic
communications service provider, or electronic bulletin board
service provider who willfully permits a person to use a remote
computing service, electronic communications service, or
electronic bulletin board service that is under the control of
that remote computer facility operator, electronic
communications service provider, or electronic bulletin board
service provider, to knowingly or recklessly transmit indecent
material from another remote computing service, electronic
communications service, or electronic bulletin board service,
to a person under 18 years of age, shall be fined not more than
$10,000, imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.'.

Okay, So I'm going to jail for 2 years and being fined 10,000... all for posting on a Message Board that says you must be 13 years old to sign up? Futhermore, Nothing will Ever, I repeat, EVER come of this. If sponsors don't even do background checks, and never get in trouble for sending minors checks.. Why the FUCK would officer leroy come bust everybody for letting an AMANSAPATED 17 year old post here.

YES, I'VE BEEN AMANSAPATED SINCE 16
DID I FORGET TO MENTION I'M A LEGAL ADULT??

SHUT THE FUCK UP:321GFY

JIM, YOU HAVE TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS AND NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN STIRR UP TROUBLE FOR THE YOUNG GUY.

IDIOT


To Dan:
Don't start negitive threads about me EVER again :)

That's true, IF that were to occour, The only one who would have to worry is the minors like me.. and by the time it occours I'll be 18... So the only possible negitive outcome for minors or anyone is me doing you all a favor!

Pad who?

wow. again. get a fucking clue.

this electrion bulletin board provides obscene and/or indecent material to a minor (emancipated or not). End of fucking story.

btw, emancipation does not make it legal for someone to provide you with obscene/indecent material, alcohol or cigerettes, it does not mean anything other then your parents are released from their oblegation to support you.

in otherwords, any moron, i mean minor, that actually goes through the emancipation process is just lining the pockets of the lawyer they may have used in aid of the process.

keep supporting him, i hope you all end up in jail.

As far as a 17 year old being on this board.. I doubt that there would be any legal ramifications.

A 17 year old can watch r-rated movies, and I would say that this board is r-rated..

and... the board info says 13+


Joining affiliate programs is a different story, but the whole Pad thing is about him being on GFY.

If he was 13, by the policy, he could still be here, so in that he's 17, I fail to see what all of the hooplah is about.

Now if he starts talking about who he does business with, then some attention might be drawn, but hopefully he has enough sense to keep such to himself..

There are many issues here....

For 1 thing any business deal he gets into is revocable by him since he is a minor.

Who started a negative thread, the only think I disagree with is you admitting your age :winkwink:

If it was up to me I'd let minors buy and promote porn. The puritanical laws of this country are ridiculous. It's best to keep these things on the downlow and not attract the fuzz.

Trust me, I know what not keeping a low profile will get you into with the fuzz :thumbsup

you cant even spell emancipated and you have no clue what it means legally, so i highly doubt it.

oooooooh, i understand now. local policies override state and federal laws. no more time for this thread, i am off to make up 13+ local policies for all my sites!!! i just expanded my target demographics!!!!

thanks for clearing that up.

Hes 17, he should just take a nice 1 year long vacation. :1orglaugh