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  • Krome
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    • Jul 2001
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    #1

    Why are Americans allowed WMD and Iraq is not?

    The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

    So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?
  • jimthefiend
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    • Oct 2003
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    #2
    when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


    till then stop whining.

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    • brand0n
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      #3
      becouse we wont use them unless we really have 2. those fuckin mad men would blow up the joint right beside them due to the weather being fucked up
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      • Krome
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        #4
        Originally posted by jimthefiend
        when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


        till then stop whining.
        You uses tanks against David Coresh (or however you spell his surname) and wiped out a bunch of people who had chosen to live together and create their own religion.

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        • jimthefiend
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          #5
          Originally posted by Krome


          You uses tanks against David Coresh (or however you spell his surname) and wiped out a bunch of people who had chosen to live together and create their own religion.


          and violate weapons laws, and molest children... etc etc


          youre not very bright are you?

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          • Cash
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            #6
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            • AM Jeff
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              #7
              I have a couple of nukes in my garage.
              Doesn't like...all Americans have then too?

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              • Nembrionic
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                • Feb 2003
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                #8
                To answer your question:

                because they're a bunch of fucking hypocrits! Final.

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                • Nembrionic
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by jimthefiend
                  when the us army uses cn20 on say... maine, then you might have a valid point.


                  till then stop whining.
                  Wasn't one of Bush's spearpoints that the THREAD of WMD by Iraq were enough to invade?

                  So: the THREAD of WMD in the US is also there. So that's really a non arguement.

                  But Sadam was crazy? Hmm..well, I could elaborate on Bush too, but I won't...deep in your heart you know..

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                  • rooster
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                    #10
                    maybe you should just be thankful that thousands of americans sacraficed their lifes to combat the nazis and spread of communism.
                    Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                    • jimthefiend
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nembrionic


                      Wasn't one of Bush's spearpoints that the THREAD of WMD by Iraq were enough to invade?

                      So: the THREAD of WMD in the US is also there. So that's really a non arguement.

                      But Sadam was crazy? Hmm..well, I could elaborate on Bush too, but I won't...deep in your heart you know..

                      you little clueless peaceniks tickle the shit out of me

                      you cant acknowledge most of the facts, the ones you CAN you are totally incapable of acurately interpreting.

                      idiots.



                      fucking europeans. you wouldnt EXIST as nations were it not for us and yet take every opportunity to slam our foreign policy decisions. when you become world powers then youll have earned the right to participate in global security issues.

                      til then just shut up. youre a joke.

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                      • com
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Krome
                        The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.
                        I beg to correct you here. You've just made the most blatent of mistakes. You cannot clasiffy "American" and by doing so you clearly state your ignorance. I am a dual citizen US and IRL. There aren't "Americans" other then the Indians that were here before euro settlers came in. Let's not forget these minor details ;).

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                        • Raf1
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by rooster
                          maybe you should just be thankful that thousands of americans sacraficed their lifes to combat the nazis and spread of communism.
                          If the western countries reacted much earlier there might have ended the war in 1939, not 1945....
                          But lets forget about that for now, it's Christmas
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                          • ZoiNk
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                            #14
                            Politics are always a very emotional discussion, and best not discussed with anything in your sigs ;)
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                            • sperbonzo
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Raf1


                              If the western countries reacted much earlier there might have ended the war in 1939, not 1945....
                              But lets forget about that for now, it's Christmas
                              hmmmm....you mean the way Europe and the UN did nothing about Cosovo while the ethnic cleansing was going on until the US insisted and stepped in and pushed the Europeans into reacting? Is THAT the kind of thing that you are taling about?

                              I love how people can so casually compare GW Bush to Saddam Hussain. If they were the same, then were are the hundreds of thousands of people massacred for disagreeing with Bush? Where are the torture chambers, and mass graves? Where are the bodies of tens of thousands of women and children deliberately gassed to death by Bush? Why are we all complaining about Bush here, on TV and everywhere and not all strung up by our ankles in a little room somewhere?


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                              • rooster
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                                #16
                                anyway, the simple answer is sadaam agreed not to have them to stay in power after he was defeated after he invaded a neighboring country.
                                Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                • KRL
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                                  #17
                                  Well let's take a worldwide poll asking the question should we let the US hold the WMDs or Saddam hold them all and then see what the results are and we'll go with that.

                                  Get real.

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                                  • com
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                                    #18
                                    Krome congrats! You've single handedly raised the idiocy level up a bar! Keep setting standards you're doing great!

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                                    • jimthefiend
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by rooster
                                      anyway, the simple answer is sadaam agreed not to have them to stay in power after he was defeated after he invaded a neighboring country.

                                      correct


                                      and people dont seem to understand he violated that agreement IMMEDIATELY.


                                      the first gulf war ended not in a treaty, but a BROKERED CEASE FIRE.

                                      that cease fire was conditional on terms being followed that Hussein AGREED to, and the UN passed resolutions affirming.
                                      We did NOT need more UN consent to invade again.

                                      technically, weve been well within our rights to invade Iraq for 12 years.

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                                      • Jedimaster
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                                        • Dec 2003
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                                        #20
                                        MOAB Bomb baby

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                                        • playa
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                                          #21
                                          When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world

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                                          • jimthefiend
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Jedimaster
                                            MOAB Bomb baby

                                            gotta love that MOAB




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                                            • NBDesign
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                                              #23
                                              Because God Loves america and gwb and Hates everyone else?

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                                              • directfiesta
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jimthefiend



                                                correct


                                                and people dont seem to understand he violated that agreement IMMEDIATELY.


                                                the first gulf war ended not in a treaty, but a BROKERED CEASE FIRE.

                                                that cease fire was conditional on terms being followed that Hussein AGREED to, and the UN passed resolutions affirming.
                                                We did NOT need more UN consent to invade again.

                                                technically, weve been well within our rights to invade Iraq for 12 years.
                                                \

                                                FOA, he had none, so obviously he did " respect" the cease fire...

                                                I also wasn't aware that the US was appointed by the UN as " invaders"... I tought that UN sanctions were conducted by troops under the UN commandment....

                                                Technically and morally, you invaded a country...

                                                ......

                                                And to Brandon"

                                                becouse we wont use them unless we really have 2. those fuckin mad men would blow up the joint right beside them due to the weather being fucked up
                                                How about a short list of countries or regimes that used nuclear ( or if you preker NUKULEAR ) weapons?
                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                • directfiesta
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by playa
                                                  When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world
                                                  Right, now since USSR is gone, it is US bases that are scattered throughout the world....
                                                  I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                  But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                  • directfiesta
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                                                    #26
                                                    Israel deploys nuclear arms in submarines

                                                    Israeli and American officials have admitted collaborating to deploy US-supplied Harpoon cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads in Israel's fleet of Dolphin-class submarines, giving the Middle East's only nuclear power the ability to strike at any of its Arab neighbours.
                                                    The unprecedented disclosure came as Israel announced that states 'harbouring terrorists' are legitimate targets, responding to Syria's declaration of its right to self-defence should Israel bomb its territory again.

                                                    According to Israeli and Bush administration officials interviewed by the Los Angeles Times, the sea-launch capability gives Israel the ability to target Iran more easily should the Iranians develop their own nuclear weapons.

                                                    Although it has been long suspected that Israel bought three German diesel-electric submarines with the specific aim of arming them with nuclear cruise missiles, the admission that the two countries had collaborated in arming the fleet with a nuclear-capable weapons system is significant at a time of growing crisis between Israel and its neighbours.

                                                    http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...061381,00.html


                                                    Diffrent strokes for different folks....
                                                    I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                    But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                    • evildick

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Krome
                                                      The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

                                                      So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?
                                                      To actually answer your question, this is why:

                                                      http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/

                                                      http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nptfact.asp

                                                      This was an attempt to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. Only the countries that currently had them at the time of the signing were able to keep them, or that was the plan anyway.
                                                      Last edited by Guest; 12-24-2003, 08:51 AM.

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                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by evildick


                                                        To actually answer your question, this is why:

                                                        http://www.un.org/Depts/dda/WMD/treaty/

                                                        http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nptfact.asp

                                                        This was an attempt to limit the spread of nuclear weapons. Only the countries that currently had them at the time of the signing were able to keep them, or that was the plan anyway.
                                                        Major player that didn't have Nuclear weapons at the time and that did not sign the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty

                                                        Israel


                                                        Representing the government, Chaim Ramon, a cabinet minister and the only other speaker, asked him, "Do you want us to announce to Iran and Iraq exactly what we have?" Even in other democratic countries, Mr. Ramon asserted, discussion about nuclear arms policy is limited and Israel should not have to "invite all our enemies to listen in."

                                                        http://www.library.cornell.edu/colld...ast/isrnuk.htm
                                                        Again, different rules...
                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                        • NBDesign
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                                                          #29
                                                          It's Christmas eve... can we give this shit a rest till after the holidays? Common people, be happy, enjoy the season... this will still be here for us to argue about after the holidays

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                                                          • rebel23
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                                                            #30
                                                            when america loses a war like saddam in 1990 then you can tell them what to do. but this aint gonna happen
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                                                            • Loryn
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by sperbonzo


                                                              hmmmm....you mean the way Europe and the UN did nothing about Cosovo while the ethnic cleansing was going on until the US insisted and stepped in and pushed the Europeans into reacting? Is THAT the kind of thing that you are taling about?

                                                              I love how people can so casually compare GW Bush to Saddam Hussain. If they were the same, then were are the hundreds of thousands of people massacred for disagreeing with Bush? Where are the torture chambers, and mass graves? Where are the bodies of tens of thousands of women and children deliberately gassed to death by Bush? Why are we all complaining about Bush here, on TV and everywhere and not all strung up by our ankles in a little room somewhere?


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                                                              • 69pornlinks
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                                                                #32
                                                                Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians
                                                                It IS what it IS

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                                                                • Ic3m4nZ
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                  Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians
                                                                  bullshit

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                                                                  • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    " Why are Americans allowed WMD and Iraq is not? "

                                                                    We asked Santa for WMD one Chrismas a long time ago...

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                                                                    • Raider Mort
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Krome
                                                                      The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

                                                                      So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?
                                                                      Basically cause George Bush calls the shots, and its going to be like that for at least another 4 years.

                                                                      Saddam, like nearly all other arabs, is a complete idiot when it comes to military tactics. You can't trust such primitive folks with WMD.

                                                                      Thats just the way the world works. Like it or not, there are winners and losers, and the folks you do not agree with are winning. Its hard to deal with, thats why folks act like babies when topics like this come up.

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                                                                      • 69pornlinks
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ


                                                                        bullshit
                                                                        just tryin to make a point
                                                                        It IS what it IS

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                                                                        • V_RocKs
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Because we can kick your ass, that is why! Tired of getting your ass kicked? Then stay down!

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                                                                          • Nembrionic
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by jimthefiend



                                                                            you little clueless peaceniks tickle the shit out of me

                                                                            you cant acknowledge most of the facts, the ones you CAN you are totally incapable of acurately interpreting.

                                                                            idiots.

                                                                            fucking europeans. you wouldnt EXIST as nations were it not for us and yet take every opportunity to slam our foreign policy decisions. when you become world powers then youll have earned the right to participate in global security issues.

                                                                            til then just shut up. youre a joke.
                                                                            Listen punk! I'm gratefull to your daddy or your grandpa, for saving my ancestors, so to speak.
                                                                            Give me one good reason why YOU are now acting like the US from nowadays saved us? Why we should be YOU thankfull for it? That's bullshit.

                                                                            Likewise, I hate the Germans that did all of it 50 years ago, but not the current German people. Why? Because they have nothing to do with it.

                                                                            So stop defending all that shit with the argument that your ancestors saved a lot of people a long time ago.

                                                                            I hate Saddam, I hate Bin Laden, but there is still no reasonable ground for an invasion in Iraq. WHERE are the WMD's? I thought 90% of the territory should be covered with them, but so far, none have been found.

                                                                            When people gonna realize that US is the leader of the free world. If the US didn't have WMD we all would have Russian bases scattered throughout the world
                                                                            Come out of you ice age dilerium dude.

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                                                                            • ryph
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                              Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians
                                                                              Not it's OWN civilians. Enemy civilians are fair game
                                                                              tom at ryphs dot com

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                                                                              • Nembrionic
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by ryph
                                                                                Not it's OWN civilians. Enemy civilians are fair game

                                                                                So eh..who did they do the test on again?

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                                                                                • ryph
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Nembrionic



                                                                                  So eh..who did they do the test on again?
                                                                                  Nevada deserts, pacific ocean and some underground bunkers. And then the only two bombs we dropped were on japan(not our civilians). Or maybe I'm missing something here? Enlighten me.
                                                                                  tom at ryphs dot com

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                                                                                  • Nembrionic
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by ryph
                                                                                    Nevada deserts, pacific ocean and some underground bunkers. And then the only two bombs we dropped were on japan(not our civilians). Or maybe I'm missing something here? Enlighten me.
                                                                                    http://www.ratical.org/radiation/Kil...Own/Intro.html
                                                                                    http://www.pacpubserver.com/new/news...8/grandma.html
                                                                                    http://www.netti.fi/~makako/mind/radiatio.htm
                                                                                    http://www.gracelinks.org/nuke/docs/50_years.doc
                                                                                    http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0301/S00016.htm
                                                                                    http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/DVNS_CBW.htm
                                                                                    http://www.commondreams.org/views/040700-103.htm

                                                                                    We even had stuff like this in OUR history classes if I recall well.

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                                                                                    • ryph
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Damn, interesting reading. Unfortunately, no - we didn't go over this stuff in history classes in my highschool. Half the articles go on about "unforseen" radiaton mishaps.

                                                                                      An unknown number of civilians were exposed at the time to "simulants", or what were then thought to be harmless agents meant to stand in for deadlier ones, the Defense Department said. Some of those were later discovered to be dangerous.
                                                                                      But the crap about experimenting and testing on our own civilians was fucked up. We should've taken POWs or something and tested on them.
                                                                                      Last edited by ryph; 12-24-2003, 01:12 PM.
                                                                                      tom at ryphs dot com

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                                                                                      • Nembrionic
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by ryph


                                                                                        Damn, interesting reading. Unfortunately, no - we didn't go over this stuff in history classes in my highschool. Half the articles go on about "unforseen" radiaton mishaps.
                                                                                        Exactly my point: I'd call it history falsification. But every government is guilty on this. It's known it was done. I don't blame you for not knowing, but it proves my point that governments try to keep info from it's own civs. Strange that I know about it, and you don't.

                                                                                        Unforseen? Fuck that. You don't inject people "unforseen"
                                                                                        Last edited by Nembrionic; 12-24-2003, 01:29 PM.

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                                                                                        • Nembrionic
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Brr..double post

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                                                                                          • I Am Saddam!
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by 69pornlinks
                                                                                            Because u.s. would NEVER nuke civiliians
                                                                                            its called 9/11

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                                                                                            • genomega
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Krome
                                                                                              The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

                                                                                              So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?
                                                                                              If you have to ask then you would never understand the reason...


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                                                                                              • DWB
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                As of yet, no WMD have been found. In my book, until that changes the 'ol mighty US of A is no doubt in the wrong and poking it's nose where it doesn't belong (again).

                                                                                                I don't think ANY nation should be permitted to have such horrible weapons. But since we do and we pretty much call the shots, that's just the way it's gonna be and if you don't like it... we'll invade you or place economic and trade sanctions against you until you buckle from poverty and governmental collapse. That's the American way.

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                                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Krome
                                                                                                  The words American and Intelligent have yet to be featured in the same sentence.

                                                                                                  So why is retard boy George Bush allowed WMD and Saddam just got fucked for having them?
                                                                                                  you are young I guess, so here is a little history lesson.

                                                                                                  Way back in the last century Saddam took over Kuwait. The world said, "back off," he said, "fuck you." The world then proceeded to kick his ass.

                                                                                                  When you go to war, and lose, there are usually terms attached, and in this case it was that he couldn't have WMD. If he had won, then he could probably have them, and none of us could.

                                                                                                  Life is a bitch sometimes.

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                                                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Krome


                                                                                                    You uses tanks against David Coresh (or however you spell his surname) and wiped out a bunch of people who had chosen to live together and create their own religion.
                                                                                                    haha - it is funny when you hear the foreign presses twist on things.

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