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Krome · 12-24-2003, 07:17 AM

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Corona · 12-24-2003, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$

The wording isn't tricky or deceitful. It's in simple and easy to understand english.

It is designed to trick the surfer by making them think it is just like the Columbia House music club.

In the FAQ the question is, "Do members have any obligations"

The answer:

"As a DvdsforaBuck Adult DVD Club member, all you need to do is buy 5 more DVDs in the next 2 years at regular Club prices (currently as low as $19.99 plus shipping and handling). You may cancel anytime thereafter. "

Don't see anything there about charging them $34.95 per month.

Bossholio · 12-24-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Corona

It is designed to trick the surfer by making them think it is just like the Columbia House music club.

In the FAQ the question is, "Do members have any obligations"

The answer:

"As a DvdsforaBuck Adult DVD Club member, all you need to do is buy 5 more DVDs in the next 2 years at regular Club prices (currently as low as $19.99 plus shipping and handling). You may cancel anytime thereafter. "

Don't see anything there about charging them $34.95 per month.

As part of your monthly membership fee of thirty four dollars and ninety nine cents or the then applicable rate, you will receive selection credits for FREE DVDs every month, with FREE shipping! Also, if you want the Adult DVD Special Selection, do nothing, it will be sent automatically. If you prefer an alternate selection, more selections or none at all, just visit our website or mail the response card so we receive it by the date specified. You will always have at least 10 days to decide. If not, and you receive an unwanted Adult DVD Special Selection, just return that package unopened within 10 days, and we will credit your account.

Plain as day if you read the tour or the terms.

Bossholio

scoreman · 12-24-2003, 09:01 AM

I hate to be the one interjecting constructive criticism in this wave of congratulatory posts but IMO the design of site is done purposely to make the terms difficult for the enduser to comprehend. For example:
a) The $34.95 price is only listed in the terms and not anywhere else. Even on the join pages its not listed, only on the terms when you join.
b) The terms are listed in two places. On the join page and on a small text link. On the join page if you click to scroll the terms it automatically goes to the bottom and you cant easily read the terms. On the text link on the home page the terms are listed on a page that has to be scrolled down to read everything. On the first page view you dont see anything about monthly fees. After you scroll, the price of the membership is not stated in numbers ($34.95) but as a written number (thirty four dollars and ninety nine cents or the then applicable rate) and if someone is scanning the terms it can be missed.
b) They get charged $35 a month and have to use the money towards buying dvds. They also are committed to buying at least 5 dvds. Taking even the cheapest dvd at $22 that equals $110 at a minimum to fulfill their obligations. $35x3 month is $105 which means they will have to at least be billed 4 months for $140. The pricing of the site basically means that you have to spend more than the amount that would be needed to purchase 5 dvds, something that you have to do math on to figure out prior to purchase as its not clearly disclosed.

This would seem to be a higher than normal chargeback project. Kudos if you manage it, but I would think after month one you will be seeing alot of cancellation requests and you will have a collections dept issue, much like Columbia house does.

J$tyle$ · 12-24-2003, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scoreman
I hate to be the one interjecting constructive criticism in this wave of congratulatory posts but IMO the design of site is done purposely to make the terms difficult for the enduser to comprehend. For example:
a) The $34.95 price is only listed in the terms and not anywhere else. Even on the join pages its not listed, only on the terms when you join.
b) The terms are listed in two places. On the join page and on a small text link. On the join page if you click to scroll the terms it automatically goes to the bottom and you cant easily read the terms. On the text link on the home page the terms are listed on a page that has to be scrolled down to read everything. On the first page view you dont see anything about monthly fees. After you scroll, the price of the membership is not stated in numbers ($34.95) but as a written number (thirty four dollars and ninety nine cents or the then applicable rate) and if someone is scanning the terms it can be missed.
b) They get charged $35 a month and have to use the money towards buying dvds. They also are committed to buying at least 5 dvds. Taking even the cheapest dvd at $22 that equals $110 at a minimum to fulfill their obligations. $35x3 month is $105 which means they will have to at least be billed 4 months for $140. The pricing of the site basically means that you have to spend more than the amount that would be needed to purchase 5 dvds, something that you have to do math on to figure out prior to purchase as its not clearly disclosed.

This would seem to be a higher than normal chargeback project. Kudos if you manage it, but I would think after month one you will be seeing alot of cancellation requests and you will have a collections dept issue, much like Columbia house does.

scoreman -

The feedback is appreciated!

The points you raised heve been taken into consideration. We're looking at everything and will make changes if we deem it necessary.

In the meantime, take advantage of the GREAT opportunity we're offering to make a BOATLOAD of cash!

Sign up http://www.dvdsforabuck.com

(at the bottom of the page)

J$tyle$ · 12-25-2003, 02:15 AM

Done. We want our webmaster traffic to convert like Gang Busters!

There is no longer ANY obligation for the surfer to buy additional dvds!

They join the club and get 5 DVDs for $1, with FREE shipping, and you get paid up to $25 per signup.

Members also receive 2 Free DVDs credits per month, with FREE shipping, and can purchase DVDs at 40% off retail. We also offer over 600 titles in our bargin bin, each for only $8.99!!

Members can cancel at any time.

Making money hasn't been easier, sign up and get your banners flying today!

http://www.dvdsforabuck.com/webmasters

12-24-2003, 09:01 AM	#54
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	I hate to be the one interjecting constructive criticism in this wave of congratulatory posts but IMO the design of site is done purposely to make the terms difficult for the enduser to comprehend. For example: a) The $34.95 price is only listed in the terms and not anywhere else. Even on the join pages its not listed, only on the terms when you join. b) The terms are listed in two places. On the join page and on a small text link. On the join page if you click to scroll the terms it automatically goes to the bottom and you cant easily read the terms. On the text link on the home page the terms are listed on a page that has to be scrolled down to read everything. On the first page view you dont see anything about monthly fees. After you scroll, the price of the membership is not stated in numbers ($34.95) but as a written number (thirty four dollars and ninety nine cents or the then applicable rate) and if someone is scanning the terms it can be missed. b) They get charged $35 a month and have to use the money towards buying dvds. They also are committed to buying at least 5 dvds. Taking even the cheapest dvd at $22 that equals $110 at a minimum to fulfill their obligations. $35x3 month is $105 which means they will have to at least be billed 4 months for $140. The pricing of the site basically means that you have to spend more than the amount that would be needed to purchase 5 dvds, something that you have to do math on to figure out prior to purchase as its not clearly disclosed. This would seem to be a higher than normal chargeback project. Kudos if you manage it, but I would think after month one you will be seeing alot of cancellation requests and you will have a collections dept issue, much like Columbia house does. __________________ Last edited by scoreman; 12-24-2003 at 09:06 AM..

12-24-2003, 07:17 AM	#51
Krome Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: London - UK Posts: 2,851	50 Holio Unique Programs

12-25-2003, 02:15 AM	#56
J$tyle$ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 11,500	Done. We want our webmaster traffic to convert like Gang Busters! There is no longer ANY obligation for the surfer to buy additional dvds! They join the club and get 5 DVDs for $1, with FREE shipping, and you get paid up to $25 per signup. Members also receive 2 Free DVDs credits per month, with FREE shipping, and can purchase DVDs at 40% off retail. We also offer over 600 titles in our bargin bin, each for only $8.99!! Members can cancel at any time. Making money hasn't been easier, sign up and get your banners flying today! http://www.dvdsforabuck.com/webmasters