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Fletch XXX 12-23-2003 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by FabianC


It's called the Felony Murder rule. Yes it's sad and yes it's not an isolated incident. However, the circumstance for this case is the the murderer pleaded to take the blame. He WANTED to be sentenced for the murder .. however, his younger brother and 3 friends got sucked into the bullshit. Yeah a teen died .. but is 4 lives worth 1? Going to jail can be worse than dying.

Doesnt really matter.

Whos to say they didnt go therejust to kill the guy and take his dope? It happens everyday. So should the driver of the car not be held responsible for murder? Even though he just drove?

Listen, Im not saying its right or wrong, but you HAVE to look at it from the eyes of what is going on.

If some guy drove a killer to my apt to rape and kill my girlfriend, id want the driver to go down too, wouldnt you?

No one really knows what went on in that place excet those involved.

It escalated to murder and the party involved will be held responsible for the death.

I am no lawyer or cop, but thats how it works.

My advice is, dont drive your friends to score drugs from some guy you might end up killing.

Fact is: that drive resulted in the death of someone, regardless, and the state holds the party involved responsible, its been that way for years.

There is a timeline in every crime, if the timeline of events is not broken, the party will be held responsible for whatever goes on during that timeline.

Lets say your friend drove everyone home and two of them went back and killed them, he wouldnt be in trouble, but the fact is the timeline of crimes involved your friend and he got wrapped up in some bad shit. it happens everyday.

FabianC 12-23-2003 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Doesnt really matter.

Whos to say they didnt go therejust to kill the guy and take his dope? It happens everyday. So should the driver of the car not be held responsible for murder? Even though he just drove?

Listen, Im not saying its right or wrong, but you HAVE to look at it from the eyes of what is going on.

If some guy drove a killer to my apt to rape and kill my girlfriend, id want the driver to go down too, wouldnt you?

No one really knows what went on in that place excet those involved.

It escalated to murder and the party involved will be held responsible for the death.

I am no lawyer or cop, but thats how it works.

My advice is, dont drive your friends to score drugs from some guy you might end up killing.

Fact is: that drive resulted in the death of someone, regardless, and the state holds the party involved responsible, its been that way for years.

There is a timeline in every crime, if the timeline of events is not broken, the party will be held responsible for whatever goes on during that timeline.

Lets say your friend drove everyone home and two of them went back and killed them, he wouldnt be in trouble, but the fact is the timeline of crimes involved your friend and he got wrapped up in some bad shit. it happens everyday.

There's more to it bro but it's not the point of this thread .. so whatever the fuck ever. My advice is, enjoy life.

Fletch XXX 12-23-2003 05:18 PM

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Originally posted by FabianC


There's more to it bro but it's not the point of this thread .. so whatever the fuck ever. My advice is, enjoy life.

More to it?

Can you tell me what they claim happend and why it escalated to murder?

Ive been to more drug deals than some have gone to church, and not one of them ever escalated to murder.

Especially teen drug deals...

what was he buying and why did it turn to murder?

FabianC 12-23-2003 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX


More to it?

Can you tell me what they claim happend and why it escalated to murder?

Ive been to more drug deals than some have gone to church, and not one of them ever escalated to murder.

Especially teen drug deals...

what was he buying and why did it turn to murder?

The teen who was killed was named Jimmy. His friend Mike was also involved in all of this. The 4 teens, Jason & brother, Brandon, and Tony went there to meet with Jimmy. Jason's brother had beef with Mike so when they saw each other they quickly got into a fight. So, Jason, Brandon, Tony, and Chris (driver) were all thrown into the mix. Jimmy backed up his friend Mike and Jason jumped in cuz it was his little brother getting teamed up on. Tony didn't even enter into the fort and Brandon pretty much got pushed out of the way. During the fight, Jason pulled out a pocket knife and stabbed Jimmy and Mike. Later while in the car, Jason tells the other teens that he thinks he stabbed Jimmy and Mike.

So, say you and I go to a bar and someone starts a fight with me. You're there in the middle trying to break it up and the guy who starts the fight has friends who jump in. All of a sudden we're in a brawl fight and I break a bottle over the dude's head. He dies. I then say "it's my fault, punish me" .. but you get thrown into prison for life too .. umm yeah, that's the law .. is it fair? Aren't laws overturned?

Maru 12-23-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer

Sends a strong message:
Dont be a fucking thief.

No. The message is: There's no justice in USA.

You can do like O. J. - kill and get away with it - if you have the money for good lawyers. Poor people, on the other hand, get life for stealing pizza.

Fletch XXX 12-23-2003 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by FabianC

umm yeah, that's the law .. is it fair? Aren't laws overturned?

As I said above, I am not saying its right or wrong, but there ARE reasons for laws, and yes they do get overturned, unfortunately this one has not so we must live by it for now.

You say your friends went somewhere, KNOWING they had enemies there.

Not a bright idea, but if your friend wouldnt have pulled a knife things would have been different. Maybe more cuts and bruises and punching, but a fight is a fight... toe to toe. Outnumbered or not, who hasnt been outnumbered?

Again, it sucks but thats the law.

And your example is bad because i HAVE gone to jail because a friend broke a bottle on someone, I also have been put in jail for trying to stop a fight and the cop saying I was involved in it.

I didnt do more than an overnight but I have went to jail for it, also the guy didnt end up dead as it seems he did in your friends crime.

Sounds like a bunch of highschool crap but it DID result in the death of someone, if youre old enough to go to drug deals you should at least be able to fight.... your friend pulled a knife.

If this was self defense it may be different, but a knife was pulled and ended up inside someones heart, the rest were scrapping but someone pulled a knife,... not good.

Cunt 12-23-2003 05:42 PM

his own fault for hanging with guys who carry knifes and getting into drugs

it was only a question of time

if this didn't happen he could be dead by now too

you choose your path

half criminal ???
there is no such thing :warning

FabianC 12-23-2003 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
As I said above, I am not saying its right or wrong, but there ARE reasons for laws, and yes they do get overturned, unfortunately this one has not so we must live by it for now.

You say your friends went somewhere, KNOWING they had enemies there.

Not a bright idea, but if your friend wouldnt have pulled a knife things would have been different. Maybe more cuts and bruises and punching, but a fight is a fight... toe to toe. Outnumbered or not, who hasnt been outnumbered?

Again, it sucks but thats the law.

And your example is bad because i HAVE gone to jail because a friend broke a bottle on someone, I also have been put in jail for trying to stop a fight and the cop saying I was involved in it.

I didnt do more than an overnight but I have went to jail for it, also the guy didnt end up dead as it seems he did in your friends crime.

Sounds like a bunch of highschool crap but it DID result in the death of someone, if youre old enough to go to drug deals you should at least be able to fight.... your friend pulled a knife.

If this was self defense it may be different, but a knife was pulled and ended up inside someones heart, the rest were scrapping but someone pulled a knife,... not good.

They didn't know Mike was going to be there .. anyway, both sides can be argued for months ..

Fletch XXX 12-23-2003 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by FabianC


They didn't know Mike was going to be there .. anyway, both sides can be argued for months ..

Well, since the trial is over, we know how the argument went.

Also, you say 4 of your friends were there, and only 2 other guys? So a one on one turned into 4 against 2? One of the 4 with a knife?

Mr Pheer 12-23-2003 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Maru

No. The message is: There's no justice in USA.

You can do like O. J. - kill and get away with it - if you have the money for good lawyers. Poor people, on the other hand, get life for stealing pizza.

OJ isnt the only person that gets away with murder, just like that one guy isnt the only one that steals pizza.

The justice system here is like anywhere else, sometimes the courts win, sometimes the criminals win.

But most likely, if you arent a fuckin criminal, you probably wont be getting in trouble for anything.

Mr Pheer 12-23-2003 06:02 PM

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Platinum Dave 12-23-2003 06:09 PM

Very Deep Fabian, very deep. thanks for sharing with us.

zzgundamnzz 12-23-2003 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by jimthefiend
heres part of the opinion of the supreme court r.e this:


[*93] "It is immaterial whether the killing in such a case is intentional or accidental, [**513] or is committed by a confederate without the connivance of the defendant * * * or even by a third person trying to prevent the commission of the felony. People v. Payne, 359 Ill. 246, 194 N.E. 539 (1935)." S.H.A., ch. 38, sec. 9 -- 1, at 9 (1972).




its the law, sorry.

Some laws are outdated. Picture this:

You go on a long roadtrip to Internext with 5 friends. One of your friends see's this guy that ripped him off on the street. So he swings, the other guys friends join in. One of your friends pulls out his pocket knife and shanks someone. But you didn't notice, because your too busy trying to defend yourself...

Guess what your screwed now and can face life in prison because you went with 5 friends and one of them lost his head and shanked somebody.

Spunky 12-23-2003 06:15 PM

You don't know whatcha got till its gone....

Loryn 12-23-2003 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo


Sounds good, just be sure to post the pics. I want to see some good tit and ass pics.

That's an even better idea. I'll get someone to snap some pictures of me in the rain. I have always wanted to have pictures taken with the wet look. I find it rather arousing. :Graucho

wyldblyss 12-23-2003 06:48 PM

Thank you for the URL to the website. I have a million things to do tonight and was feeling sorry for myself, and then I read about Brandon. Needless to say I felt ashamed that I don't appreciate what I have.

I read the entire website and boy was it ever a wake-up call.

12clicks 12-23-2003 08:31 PM

Boo fucking hoo


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