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Old 12-22-2003, 11:19 AM   #1
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:21 AM   #2
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:33 AM   #6
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:47 AM   #7
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Old 12-22-2003, 11:52 AM   #8
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Sounds like you are having major problems with converting sponsors who use CCBill?

Is this prevalent lately as I see everyday posts complaining about CCBill's scrub rates in December especially?
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Old 12-22-2003, 12:08 PM   #9
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Sounds like you are having major problems with converting sponsors who use CCBill?

Is this prevalent lately as I see everyday posts complaining about CCBill's scrub rates in December especially?
I just want to start spreading my traffic around more. Right now, about 70% of my revenue is coming from CCBill sites.

Given the info that was posted in another thread about CCBill providing tools that sponsors can use to shave affiliates (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=211755) I want to look at reducing the amount of traffic that I send to CCBill sponsors.

If you haven't read that other thread, you owe it to yourself to check it out.
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Old 12-22-2003, 12:25 PM   #10
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I just want to start spreading my traffic around more. Right now, about 70% of my revenue is coming from CCBill sites.

Given the info that was posted in another thread about CCBill providing tools that sponsors can use to shave affiliates (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=211755) I want to look at reducing the amount of traffic that I send to CCBill sponsors.

If you haven't read that other thread, you owe it to yourself to check it out.
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Thats badda news Elric. The only thing I had heard about ppl complaining about CC Bill was the ridiculous scrub rate lately. People talking to me are pulling their hair out, used to having several sign ups a day, and are running at like 33% of what they usually do (WITHOUT changes in traffic patterns).

Xmas slow down? It doesn't account for that much. CCBill has some hard thinking to do, balancing this harsh scrubbing with losing an awful lot of webmasters who can't make enough cash with them.

On top of it all, there is this, Elric, which you have pointed out.

Not good.
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:00 PM   #11
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:02 PM   #12
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:11 PM   #13
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We use Verotel to process sales for our extreme amateur site. See sig
How are things with Verotel Spooky?

Had any experiences or experience with CC Bill conversions versus a processor like Verotel?

If so what is it?
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:31 PM   #18
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I just want to start spreading my traffic around more. Right now, about 70% of my revenue is coming from CCBill sites.

Given the info that was posted in another thread about CCBill providing tools that sponsors can use to shave affiliates (http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=211755) I want to look at reducing the amount of traffic that I send to CCBill sponsors.

If you haven't read that other thread, you owe it to yourself to check it out.
The problem is you are trying to write an article with no grammar -
To say that all ccbill masters use this as a shave function is both stupid and blind -

I would gladly offer any person who could send over 50 joins a day FULL access to my webmasters stats page at ccbill to prove I run as clean a show as possible -
I can also prove without any messing round that I have many webmasters that have earned well in excess of $500 for one recurring join.

Every script you can buy has a shave feature - Sure - Doesn't mean everybody uses it -

There are a lot of dumbass criminals in this biz with only ultra-quick $$$ in mind - There are also many straight people with longer term projects going on -
Don't confuse the two -
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:41 PM   #19
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Old 12-22-2003, 01:43 PM   #20
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The problem is you are trying to write an article with no grammar -
To say that all ccbill masters use this as a shave function is both stupid and blind -

I would gladly offer any person who could send over 50 joins a day FULL access to my webmasters stats page at ccbill to prove I run as clean a show as possible -
I can also prove without any messing round that I have many webmasters that have earned well in excess of $500 for one recurring join.

Every script you can buy has a shave feature - Sure - Doesn't mean everybody uses it -

There are a lot of dumbass criminals in this biz with only ultra-quick $$$ in mind - There are also many straight people with longer term projects going on -
Don't confuse the two -
Talk is cheap.

The fact that CCBill invested the development resources to build that feature in is an indication that it IS being used.

Otherwise, why leave it in?
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Talk is cheap.

The fact that CCBill invested the development resources to build that feature in is an indication that it IS being used.

Otherwise, why leave it in?
I didn't deny that - You are assuming everybody uses it -
They do not -

Why assume everybody thinks the same way you do?
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Old 12-22-2003, 03:22 PM   #28
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I didn't deny that - You are assuming everybody uses it -
They do not -

Why assume everybody thinks the same way you do?
Now you are grabbing at straws.

I never said anything about it being used by ALL sponsors. But I will say again that the fact that it's there and is so extensively documented by CCBill is an indication that it is being used EXTENSIVELY.

Frankly, any affiliate who does not take an EXTREMELY close look at how many rebills are coming through CCBill is not being smart. There is huge potential for shaving with any CCBill sponsor - the proof is pretty clear.

And like I said earlier, I have already started moving traffic away from CCBill sponsors...
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