Hackworth Says Al Qaeda Has A Nuke

[NoCarrier]

Anyone see Col. Hackworth on CNBC? He says that Al Qaeda recently acquired a suitcase nuke from Kazakstan. This is probably what the Orange alert is all about.

[- AFN -]

Yeah right. What does it do? Shoot out Falafel and Baba Ganoush with Tahini sauce?

[twistyneck]

I usually just get my news from The Daily Show so no, I didn't see whoever it is you are talking about and I won't until tonight. Plus, I doubt that Allah would let them get away with using it so there is really nothing to worry about.

[Pad]

HTFN

(Hope The Fuck Not)

[EscortBiz]

they know everything but not the names of who bought and who sold, they hear chatter but not who is chatting, they have serious reports but not names.

This is bullshit A-Z people enjoy your holidays, I bet ridge is laughing his ass off.

[twistyneck]

Originally posted by EscortBiz
they know everything but not the names of who bought and who sold, they here chatter but not who is chatting, they has serious reports but not names.

This is bullshit A-Z people enjoy your holidays, I bet ridge is laughing his ass off.

Yup.

[Roger]

Another terrorist attack and you can kiss the constitution goodbye.

Yeah, sure they have nukes

[Trax]

bs
if they had one they would have used it already

[KRL]

Well if they set off a nuke in the US, I'm sure our response will be to level that entire paki / afghan border area where Osama is hidden away.

Forget finding him. We'll just turn that who area into glass.

[TheLegacy]

Somewhere now overseas

[TheEnforcer]

Interesting theory he has there.

[Mutt]

one more attack on the scale of 9/11 and you can kiss the Middle East goodbye - one big radioactive parking lot.

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by KRL
Well if they set off a nuke in the US, I'm sure our response will be to level that entire paki / afghan border area where Osama is hidden away.

Forget finding him. We'll just turn that who area into glass.

first the president will grant law enforcment the right to go into your house and check everything whenever they want, while there they can eat and drink for free.

all these anti terror laws mostly target harmless people

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by Mutt
one more attack on the scale of 9/11 and you can kiss the Middle East goodbye - one big radioactive parking lot.

but first haliburton gets 50 billion per gallon of oil to transfer to the US (somewhere in Texas)

[Matt 26z]

Col. Hackworth is retired. He makes a living from shocking statements like this. That is what sells books and gets him paid appearances. Financially motivated statements are bullshit 98% of the time.

If he isn't revealing this "shocking news", does he get on TV? No.

[EscortBiz]

Originally posted by Matt 26z
Col. Hackworth is retired. He makes a living from shocking statements like this. That is what sells books and gets him paid appearances. Financially motivated statements are bullshit 98% of the time.

If he isn't revealing this "shocking news", does he get on TV? No.

The entire Ridge statement is somehow financially motivated we just dont know exactly what but trust me its about the dollor

[ThunderBalls]

Maybe thats why Libya has all of a sudden decided to agree to scrap its own nuke program. Could be Gaddafi knows somethings about to happen and doesnt want to be the next Saddam.

[NBDesign]

Wonder what country we will attack next if Al Qaeda strikes us again.... What other dictator will we go after that has nothing to do with Al Qaeda to take the pressure off bush when he fails again to find these people.

BUSH

[MadCap]

Originally posted by Mutt
one more attack on the scale of 9/11 and you can kiss the Middle East goodbye - one big radioactive parking lot.

[jimmy3way]

1. There is no such thing as a suitcase nuclear bomb.

2. Even if there was it would be no more powerful than a large truck bomb.

The thing you should worry about is the next evolution of the truck bomb: the propane tanker cased-fertilizer bomb. A bomb built from a stolen tanker truck and shit you can buy at a farm supply store.

Ka-boom.

[theking]

Originally posted by Matt 26z
Col. Hackworth is retired. He makes a living from shocking statements like this. That is what sells books and gets him paid appearances. Financially motivated statements are bullshit 98% of the time.

If he isn't revealing this "shocking news", does he get on TV? No.

I have great admiration for Col. Hackworth's military career but as a civilian he is about self promotion and is often incorrect. I recall that his prediction for casualties in the 1st Gulf War was 50,000 American casualties.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by jimmy3way
1. There is no such thing as a suitcase nuclear bomb.

2. Even if there was it would be no more powerful than a large truck bomb.

The thing you should worry about is the next evolution of the truck bomb: the propane tanker cased-fertilizer bomb. A bomb built from a stolen tanker truck and shit you can buy at a farm supply store.

Ka-boom.

they may exist and a nuke would be 10 times more powerful than a truck bomb... especially when you factor in the radiation fall out. That could spread many miles.

Granted the initial effect could only take out a mile or two.. the fall out would be much greater.

[jimmy3way]

Originally posted by NBDesign
Granted the initial effect could only take out a mile or two.. the fall out would be much greater.

A mile or two? You mean a building or two.

1. The most destructive nuclear weapons are thermonuclear, a thermonuclear device cannot be made man portable. A nuclear device is far less powerful.

2. A suitcase bomb would likely be less than a kiloton. Recall that the 12.5 kiloton bomb at Hiroshima produced destruction over just over a mile from ground zero.

[Pornwolf]

Al Qaeda isn't trying to kill us too hard. If they were there would be a hell of a lot more of us dead.


I think we should be a bit more worried about militants in Nebraska. Oh, wait, they will be quiet until their hero Bush is out of office.

[roly]

Originally posted by jimmy3way


A mile or two? You mean a building or two.

1. The most destructive nuclear weapons are thermonuclear, a thermonuclear device cannot be made man portable. A nuclear device is far less powerful.

2. A suitcase bomb would likely be less than a kiloton. Recall that the 12.5 kiloton bomb at Hiroshima produced destruction over just over a mile from ground zero.

yeah but it's not about the explosive effects, it's the radioactive fallout and how far the wind wants to take it that matters. if a dirty bomb went off in new york or london or some other big city, pretty much the whole city would have to be evacuated, and the only way for people to return would be to knock down all the contaminated buildings etc. it's a scary thought, and with a dirty bomb it doesn't have to be highly enriched material.

[crockett]

Originally posted by jimmy3way
1. There is no such thing as a suitcase nuclear bomb.

2. Even if there was it would be no more powerful than a large truck bomb.

The thing you should worry about is the next evolution of the truck bomb: the propane tanker cased-fertilizer bomb. A bomb built from a stolen tanker truck and shit you can buy at a farm supply store.

Ka-boom.

umm tell the russians that.. also look in to our own history ever heard of the Davey Crockett? No not my name or the guy that died in the alamo.. But the Small nuke device that was deployed with our troops as a last ditch weapon incase a base was over run...

I's a small nuke that can be set off by foot soldiers here is a link about it now if we had those in 1962 don't you think we probally have them smaller now? as a side not the ones in those pics have a rocket so it would be much smaller with out the rocket..

My dad worked on these during Vietnam, he was stationed in Germany and worked on these small nukes back then... so you really think we don't have them now?

[12clicks]

Originally posted by EscortBiz


all these anti terror laws mostly target harmless people

really?
can you point to these harmless people?




silly children.

[elric]

Originally posted by - AFN -
Yeah right. What does it do? Shoot out Falafel and Baba Ganoush with Tahini sauce?

[Hawkeye]

Hopefully he'll go after Israel instead of the U.S.

No worries.

[Meta Ridley]

Originally posted by Mutt
one more attack on the scale of 9/11 and you can kiss the Middle East goodbye - one big radioactive parking lot.

Maybe everywhere except Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are Bush's friends, even tho they attacked this country.

[jimmy3way]

Originally posted by crockett
I's a small nuke that can be set off by foot soldiers here is a link about it now if we had those in 1962 don't you think we probally have them smaller now? as a side not the ones in those pics have a rocket so it would be much smaller with out the rocket..

It's not the technology that is the problem it's the yeild of the bomb, from the link you provided:

"The W54 warhead used on the Davy Crockett weighed just 51 pounds and was the smallest and lightest fission bomb (implosion type) ever deployed by the United States, with a variable explosive yield of 0.01 kilotons (equivalent to 10 tons of TNT, or two to four times as powerful as the ammonium nitrate bomb which destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995), or 0.02 kilotons-1 kiloton. A 58.6 pound variant?the B54?was used in the Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM), a nuclear land mine deployed in Europe, South Korea, Guam, and the United States from 1964-1989."

Note the tiny yield of the device, a fertilizer bomb is easier to make and can be made larger. Note also the comparison to the Oklahoma City bomb, and THAT explosive has no casing or anything, it was just in plastic tubs.

A bomb of similar mass in a proper casing would be as or more powerful than a micro nuke and a zillion times easier to make.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by roly


yeah but it's not about the explosive effects, it's the radioactive fallout and how far the wind wants to take it that matters. if a dirty bomb went off in new york or london or some other big city, pretty much the whole city would have to be evacuated, and the only way for people to return would be to knock down all the contaminated buildings etc. it's a scary thought, and with a dirty bomb it doesn't have to be highly enriched material.

I may have been off on the initial... but this is the point I was making... thank you