Not everything is about "selling stuff". If I were to leave this biz, I'd probably pursue a career in academics.
Only reason I got into this biz is because I was intrigued by computers and programming, and I liked watching naked chicks with big tits. It isn't my goal in life to spend the rest of my days behind the computer though.

I agree... things have been tight for me before too and I can wholeheartedly say that poverty has no redeeming features except that it makes you grateful for what you have.

The value I see in this biz is that, for me at least, it's a chance to make more money doing something fun and challenging than I could in the real world with my skill set. I don't want to be fantastically rich, but I do plan on making enough from this biz that I will have a healthy passive income for life. The things I am really passionate about wouldn't necessarily make me any money but you do need a certain amount of money to have freedom and independence in a capitalist society.

But I do think that unless you actually want to be in the porn biz (ie you are into porn, not just money), then your aim has to be to make as much as you can right now and be ready to leave if the environment changes.

If you are talking about the adult industry...I left some time ago.

Main stream is not worth it. Dont believe the hype

Well my wife made me get 4 or so jobs in the last 6 years, as she wanted me out, I am still here, if did not have those other jobs I would be way further ahead here.!!!

Find somthing to work on like work on a hobby like a hotrod just to get off this machine every once in a while..

So what you expect everything for free, of course it's a real job! The more money you want to make, the more time you work! Just like the more money you make, the more money you spend! :Graucho

What so you'd rather go to another job, not make as much and work less?

jDoG

Anyone wanting out and wanting to sell please contact me.

Well said both of you. Money may not buy happiness, but I haven't found anything else that will cover house payments, bills, groceries, theater tickets, wine, sushi, movies, clothing, vacations...

I was never cut out for the work-a-day world. I was almost 30 before I even know what I wanted to do when I "grew up"...'cause they hadn't invented it yet. I love building websites.

I'm not a good enough designer to do quick work but given time and motivation I can do good stuff, so it suits me well to work for myself. I can't imagine working for anyone else, unless it were someone like my last boss, who let me show up when I wanted and do what I wanted and paid me about twice what I was worth. Unfortunately, they had him killed.

So I guess I'm here for the long-term...

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No offense, but if spending your life in front of the monitor is the problem maybe you should cut back on non-business internet use. How much time do those 6000 posts represent?? How much of it business related?

I second what Tony 404 said. Enjoy this shit while you can. It doesn't get much easier than this.

Why would you?

I mean my dick is bigger and bigger every day!

Sorry to say - it is business and it is a real job with responsibilities

as far as it changing, yes it will and I hope it does - you never want an industry stale, but you also have to change with it. Over 9 years and going, I had to be flexible, and these recent changes only means I will have to rethink some strategies.

the friendships are awesome, and the webmasters are awesome to work with. Very few jobs out there that your not behind some screen, but the benefits definitely outway the negatives.

Hang in there before you make a mistake of working elsewhere then realize that this is the place you want to be.

I work both Adult and Mainstream Internet businesses that I have assembled over the last few years now.

Nothing ever lasts in life, I'd rather be able to meet my clients needs for any serivces they need on most any products and services that they ask about.

Last summer I did some Mainstream consulting (4 horus worth of work) and made $2,000 cash for the day. That takes place now about 1x a month to every 6 weeks and this isnt the hardest thing in the world to do.

Adult webmasters for the most part are very savvy folks from a technical perspective. You can use that knowledege in Mainstream and make out quite nicely in the consulting field these days.

Mainstream is easier for working with, getting paid on time and not disappearing on you since they have a physical location you can contact them at and not just email / ICQ.

Make all you can or else someone else will :)