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Old 08-15-2003, 07:38 PM   #1
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Good content management software?

Instead of reinventing the wheel, does anybody know of any good content management software? I need to manage about 4,000 video clips to start. and need to get a good amount of flexibility.. ideally something that keeps indexes/pointers to the mpegs in an sql database?
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Old 08-15-2003, 07:50 PM   #2
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A-Conman. It's GPL and out of the box runs on PostgreSQL, but I know someone here posted that they did a port to mySQL (something I was gonna do but they beat me to it).
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Old 08-15-2003, 07:57 PM   #3
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There apparently were some problems with the port to MySQL and I never heard an update on whether they were resolved. I'd certainly like to know the status on that since it has to be a MySQL database for me to consider using a-conman.
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php-nuke! lol.
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Old 08-15-2003, 08:39 PM   #5
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A-Conman. It's GPL and out of the box runs on PostgreSQL, but I know someone here posted that they did a port to mySQL (something I was gonna do but they beat me to it).
Awesome! Exactly what I needed man (and I prefer postgres anyways).. Just saved me a good 40 hours of work..

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Old 08-15-2003, 08:47 PM   #6
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php-nuke! lol.
I see that there are 3 levels of CMS, where php-nuke and post-nuke are the fullest featured, most complex. They're probably overkill for most needs and can take a first-timer weeks to implement properly.

The other end of the line are blogs, which are probably inadequate for most of our needs but can be set up and functional in half a day at most.

The programs ConMan and SiteMan are (uniquely different) solutions that fall in between those two extremes and offers specialized features written for the industry.
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Old 08-15-2003, 10:41 PM   #7
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php-nuke! lol.
PHP nuke I think i really powerful...very good support for it too...
but for thread purposes...


Try A program called Xoops

Its A CMS easily manageable, and workable...very powerful as well
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Old 08-16-2003, 12:04 AM   #8
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I'm not sure I would rush to spend $1,200 on a program from anyone who in August 2003 says about it on their site: "Currently we are working on a new version that will be available in Jan. 2003"
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I found conman to be a total mess, sloppy code and worse customer service. I think it would be potentially useful for organizing shovelware, but that is it.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:46 AM   #10
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Old 12-16-2003, 07:17 AM   #11
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aWIZ is a very good program and what I use on my sites. They are excellent to work with you as well...... AND you can use one copy on a server for ALL your domains on that server, none of this having to have a copy for each domain thing.

They also have an awesome security built in so that password hackers can't get into the site...... it allows you to set the number of times a person can login with different ips per user/pass and everything else redirects back to the front door.

This is an awesome program.......

I hope this is what you are talking about, and if it isn't then I'll take my dumbass back to another corner now. LOL
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http://www.mansionproductions.com/mms/demo/

This was released yesterday and the first buyers were www.adultlabel.com

This is a serious piece of software.
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:34 AM   #13
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http://www.mansionproductions.com/mms/demo/

This was released yesterday and the first buyers were www.adultlabel.com

This is a serious piece of software.
THANSK for the great words Krome ! We havent told the world about this new Members Management System created by the programmers behind the MPA2 program yet. We are working on the press release now, and will send it out tomorrow.

How ever, since the word already is out, here is the correct url for the promo site for this program
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And by the way.. I would LOVE to get some feed back on the design of the promo site, the flash demo of the software and also about the software features... !!!

Please feel free to say what ever you want about those things there !
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Kudos to Mansion for that top notch Demo for their new management system, the system looks very impressive but way out of our price range at this point. Maybe in the future we could look it over again
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MMS Looks good, too bad it is so expensive...
It prevents small sites owners from using it.
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I'm not sure I would rush to spend $1,200 on a program from anyone who in August 2003 says about it on their site: "Currently we are working on a new version that will be available in Jan. 2003"

Actually before you start dogging a product just because of a typo on the site you might want to take a look at the actual product first.

Siteman is being used by quite a few sites on the net and has proven itself time and again for its flexibility, reliability and ease of use. I would be more than happy to fix the typo you found if you can point me to it.

We are already working on siteman v3 which should actually be out in Jan 2004 roughly and will have some fantastic features that are not currently in any CMS available.

Anyhow, we are working on numerous products and Site Extreme has been around for a few years working on products for quite a few different companies.

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Actually I found the text and removed it , we are working on a new site right now actually which should be out before the show in Jan. Our new product lineup wont be on the market until after the show sometime, but will be increasing our product portfolio by 3 more products and prices will be more competitive than ever.
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I use siteman on 2 different servers and it totally rocks..

its very customable and defenitly worth the price.. + the support from Andy trough icq is great..

high recommend from me.
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Actually before you start dogging a product just because of a typo on the site you might want to take a look at the actual product first.
Actually you should.
If they can't even get such details right, I don't even wanna know what details they missed while programming.

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I came to the same conclusion.

Besides that, it runs only on PostgreSQL, nothing wrong with PostgreSQL but if developers just fail to implement multi database support in such an application they don't even deserve to call themselves developers.

But that goes for most (cms) software offered here. Low quality, overpriced crap.
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ow, btw, if some cms developer here believes his system can meet my quality standards without a problem, he can contact me through ICQ and convince me. If I'm convinced, changes are he gets a huge, new customer.
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ow, btw, if some cms developer here believes his system can meet my quality standards without a problem, he can contact me through ICQ and convince me. If I'm convinced, changes are he gets a huge, new customer.
Hmm if the person cannot spell "chances" properly, what are the odds he really is worth convincing?
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AcidMax,

What about half a million to spend on a cms?

And besides that, english isn't my native language, and I don't care to reread what I write, let alone run a spellcheck on my posts.

But why are you making stupid jokes here instead of contacting me through ICQ? Afraid of someone who can judge good programming?
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What about half a million to spend on a cms?

And besides that, english isn't my native language, and I don't care to reread what I write, let alone run a spellcheck on my posts.

But why are you making stupid jokes here instead of contacting me through ICQ? Afraid of someone who can judge good programming?
Nope I'm not afraid of anything. If you have a half million you should probably get a custom cms dont you think? My point was simply as stupid as my comment sounded, so did yours when you inferred a website typo was a good indication of programming ability. I have never claimed to be the best programmer at all, however your comments sound extremely self righteous don't you think?

Anyhow, I am currently working on a new version of our CMS and when that becomes available I will be more than happy to show you.
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AcidMax,

At the moment we're making an inventory of the functionality wishes and planning our future infrastructure. We probably will develop it part in-house, part outsourced, but if there's a decent system on the market which meets my programming standards I surely will consider the option.

But it's a fact that the quality of the work of a lot so called "professionals" out there sucks. No OOP, lousy software architecture (html mixed with code, no database layer: most software is written for a specific dbase, I believe that the choice of dbase is up to the customer, not the programmer and this can easily be tackled by using the adodb class for instance which gives support for most common dbases and can be used by simply changing one config var. etc, etc, crappy or no documentation).

About the typo. Of course such a mistake is human and can always happen. But I'm serious that I take such things into consideration when I have to choose a partner. Besides the fact that the mistype itself is pretty harmless, it can be an indication of the workprocess a company uses. It ain't an explicit indicication of programming skillz, but to me it is an indication of how a company works, which is actually more important to me.

In the past I've worked with a party that had a bunch of the best programmers I've ever worked with. The code they delivered was close to perfection, but the thing was that it was ready 1,5 year after the initial deadline, half of the described functionality was missing, technical support wasn't available when needed, etc, etc.

I think that content publishing should be: writing -> checking by a second person -> publishing and a third person that checks the site content every now and than to see if the content isn't outdated / still correct. A company which has a site (a site is pretty often the first impression you get from a company) that is up-to-date and bugfree makes a much, much better impression on me than I company that has mistakes on their site. It makes me wonder how good their skillz are, if they can't even manage to have their own site bugfree.

And ofcourse you may think this is bs. But I've met more people who use such small details as selection criteria while picking partners/products/whatever.
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I have some bad content management software for cheap...
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At the moment we're making an inventory of the functionality wishes and planning our future infrastructure. We probably will develop it part in-house, part outsourced, but if there's a decent system on the market which meets my programming standards I surely will consider the option.
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Now that was more of a streamlined and more precise answer. My point that I was making is that you cannot judge a software product over a typo on the website. I am a single individual that has put a lot of time into my content management system (SiteMan). The CMS does use a database abstracton layer, that will work with most if not all of the popular database types out there. My CMS is written using classes and was originally written approx. 2 years ago (much has changed since then which is why I am also doing a complete re-write to take advantage of new features in php and database types). It is all written so that you can use templates as well and integrate multiple sites into the same CMS all while using the same content, without duplication.

You can manage the content that goes on each site, the date the content should be displayed, the niche it belongs to, the site it should be displayed on, the models associated with the content etc. You can even create what I call a "status" that you can manage to break your content down even further. Lets say you have an amateur niche site but want to have a bonus & exclusive section along with your normal site. You can create an exclusive and bonus status and break the niche content down even further. These are just the features in our current release, there is actually a lot more like link management, story management, news management etc., that has also been in the original release. Not to mention you can queue an unlimited number of updates for future release on all your sites. You could actually queue 5 years worth of updates and never touch the sites again.

This software has been used on some descent sized sites, and I must say that being that I am only 1 person who programmed the CMS and not a large company, just the shear fact that people know about the software on this board and promote it and give it kudos is a big pat on the back for me.

When someone however comes along and says basically that your software is shit because of a typo on a website, its not going to be taken lightly.

That being said each persons requirements for a CMS are a little different. The nice thing about SiteMan is that it can be customized and expanded on to fit most if not all of the needs of the paysites out there.

The new version will have many more features, while some might be removed because they were never used, others will be added on to and expanded upon.

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Andy,

I'm a programmer, people like us lack social skills

And however it wasn't my intention to judge you in anyway (so no need to defend yourself), and just a typo most of the time really isn't a big deal, but it can be something a customer takes into his decission.

I myself always pay attention to those 'details', like a year ago I had to select a third partner to whom we wanted to outsource all the internet/technical related work. In that process I kicked out a few parties in the very beginning just because of the fact their proposal was full of spelling mistakes, no effort put in the lay out of their document (not even stapled, just a bunch of loose paper in an envelope). Technically you're right if you say it doesn't say anything about the level of their skills, but to me it says something about the way they work. If a candidate doesn't even seem to care to deliver a nicely made and pretty much error free document, they don't care enough to be part of my business. Especially when people can choose from a wide range of candidates those things start to count.

Anyway, enough bout this, hit me up on icq or through email [jeroen[at]nightwork.org]. I got some questions for you.
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