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Old 12-18-2003, 09:49 PM   #51
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:49 PM   #52
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The sad thing is, it all seems to be described clearly in the Terms and Conditions. If the surfer read those before putting in their CC, they would realize what was going on.
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:53 PM   #54
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I have heard upwards of 12k joins a day at its peak. Atherton was smart enough to play the games. Like it or not, he will make millions of this once simple "scam".
God I hate seeing these people killing the business like this...
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I don't believe that for a second. Total BS.
I agree I had paris hilton traffic, it never converted to anything.
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Old 12-18-2003, 09:56 PM   #56
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Gee I'm glad I don't listen to people with 200 posts in 2 months.

I get 100+ spam promoting this site per day mate.....

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God I hate seeing these people killing the business like this...

I agree, but in the end, there is nothing you or I can do about it. People like Atherton, Gould, etc have made/will make millions and laugh as they put the dirt on the tombstone of visa/mc and recurring billing for this business. They are laughing all the way to the bank no doubt.
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I agree, but in the end, there is nothing you or I can do about it. People like Atherton, Gould, etc have made/will make millions and laugh as they put the dirt on the tombstone of visa/mc and recurring billing for this business. They are laughing all the way to the bank no doubt.
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Karma is a bitch sure.

But when you have $100million in the bank spread out all over the world, it can help overcome karma in the long run.
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:00 PM   #60
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I agree, but in the end, there is nothing you or I can do about it. People like Atherton, Gould, etc have made/will make millions and laugh as they put the dirt on the tombstone of visa/mc and recurring billing for this business. They are laughing all the way to the bank no doubt.
Undoubtly they're enjoying the millions they've made while we're all trying to make an honest buck and it's only getting harder on us. It's a real shame but your right, there isn't much we can do about it.

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Old 12-18-2003, 10:04 PM   #61
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There really isn't anything anyone can do about it.

Let's be ohnest this industry was made and survived on re-bills. mabey not every company, but most.

knock em for 29-49.00 per month and mabey get 4-6-12 months outta them, especially in the old days.

As I said to Mike today who I truly respect, the weeding out process has begun. companies and people will go away.

the gold rush will come back, but in a different format I belive.
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I agree I had paris hilton traffic, it never converted to anything.

hheh, you just have no idea how much bling they pulling, but sometimes it's good to have people like you....
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:07 PM   #64
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I have heard similar numbers. Today I heard it was still averaging 10k joins a day.

I think with this latest celeb scandal to rock adult internet, it will mark the end of cc billing for celeb sites. I know quite a few sites have already lost cc processing and anyone left are living on borrowed time.


Not to insult anyone else that has posted in this thread but I would like to hear from quiet and Bradshaw in particular their thoughts on the Gina Lee Nolan tape that is said to be floating around? Will it have time to surface and be profitable or has paris put the nail in the coffin for future marketing exploits via credit card?

Other then dialers and cheques will there be another alternative billing solution introduced to fill the void of credit cards?
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hheh, you just have no idea how much bling they pulling, but sometimes it's good to have people like you....
It's good to have lots of people like this.
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:11 PM   #67
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I will pay any webmaster who can show me a screen cap of there paris hilton stats an extra $500 on there pay check if they send me 100 joins in a pay period!!! $1000 if they send me 200!!!!

And you can send to QUICKBUCK

or CONVERSIONCASH

And thats a guarentee!!! Fuck That mother fucker ATHERTON!!! Send it so someone who works hard and gives back to the other webmasters out there!!!
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Karma, i don't believe in it. People like Atherton don't have consciences and I don't believe in 'bad karma' - crooks, thieves, mobsters don't suffer any more tragedies and misfortune than the rest of us. Let's say Atherton got cancer, bunch of people would say 'ooooooo....bad karma, what goes around comes around' ........ what about the 10,000 honest people diagnosed with cancer today?

forget karma, the only way these type of people pay is when the law takes away their freedom and when you're talking about the tens of millions Atherton's making on the Paris Hilton and Jenna Jameson scams even at worst it would be maybe two years in jail.
Crime really does pay. If you have no conscience.
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The Porn Mafia doesn't need karma just a nice little stack of benjamins and this guy is sleeping with the fishes.

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And I'm sure there are plenty of GFY webmasters who site quiet while they spam the shit out of things for this guy via mail.

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Where's the traffic coming from? Is it all their own mail traffic, or from an affiliate program or what?
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:24 PM   #72
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Old 12-18-2003, 10:25 PM   #73
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I will pay any webmaster who can show me a screen cap of there paris hilton stats an extra $500 on there pay check if they send me 100 joins in a pay period!!! $1000 if they send me 200!!!!

And you can send to QUICKBUCK

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And thats a guarentee!!! Fuck That mother fucker ATHERTON!!! Send it so someone who works hard and gives back to the other webmasters out there!!!

At what rate per join?
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You take your pick I got so many different payouts between the 2 programs you can take your pic!!!
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I've been in this business for quite awhile and even though right now my income has taken a major kick in the ass I will not have anything to do with this whole Paris Hilton thing. I started this with the intentions of being in in for the long haul, not for quick money, scams or other bullshit, Personally, I'm fucking sick and tired of getting 100+ spams per day everyday having to do with that no brain slut paris hilton. It's scams like this that fuck things up for the rest of us. The more a surfer gets fucked the less they will buy memberships to porn sites and in the end we all lose.
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i applaud WiredGuy - most people in the biz are happily contributing to this scam. When VISA once again puts the clamp down there will be about 3 people in this business who can say they bear no responsibility.
WG is a professional with ethics. That is some what rare in this biz

I cant belive that guy running the hilton site is able to keep his site going with so much heat, complaints, and charge backs everyday.
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Forgot to add that Paris Hilton is not only very DUMB but also fucking ugly as hell.
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And thats a guarentee!!! Fuck That mother fucker ATHERTON!!! Send it so someone who works hard and gives back to the other webmasters out there!!!
I will add this one more time!!
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The more a surfer gets fucked the less they will buy memberships to porn sites and in the end we all lose.
that number of 'lost' customers is enormous. but few in this business cared or care about it - it's always been grab all the money you can now - who cares about the future. There are millions of surfers who have been duped by scams who will never join another site - and for every one of those there are the 10 friends they told that porn paysites are a scam.

To all the people who sent millions of hits to Atherton's program Porncash - did you ever think about checking out what was inside?

I did - almost nothing was inside his paysites, maxiumum i'd say maybe $1,000 worth of content. Billed at 39.95 and 49.95 a month.

There are plenty of people on these boards who are supporting him.
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that number of 'lost' customers is enormous. but few in this business cared or care about it - it's always been grab all the money you can now - who cares about the future. There are millions of surfers who have been duped by scams who will never join another site - and for every one of those there are the 10 friends they told that porn paysites are a scam.

To all the people who sent millions of hits to Atherton's program Porncash - did you ever think about checking out what was inside?

I did - almost nothing was inside his paysites, maxiumum i'd say maybe $1,000 worth of content. Billed at 39.95 and 49.95 a month.

There are plenty of people on these boards who are supporting him.
it's a no brainer why sites like milfhunter sell well - they have actual conent in them
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Someone show me the money! Or i do not beleive. If it were true i would have converted the traffic and nobody would talk about 8million signups from the traffic.
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Someone show me the money! Or i do not beleive. If it were true i would have converted the traffic and nobody would talk about 8million signups from the traffic.
Dude the numbers are real...trust me
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Someone show me the money! Or i do not beleive. If it were true i would have converted the traffic and nobody would talk about 8million signups from the traffic.
Dude get over yourself. I threw an ugly ass page up in 10 minutes or less and was converting Hilton traffic 3 days later when google and altavista picked it up.
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i've only been billed 49.95 by that site since i joined and cancelled..
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i myself dont have the nuts to push it
i do know people that are
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Very well said Hooper and I tend to agree with these principles. I knew webmasters who were converting like crazy, making 100+ joins per day. I refused to work with it though, we all know the heat is going to hit within a few weeks and I'm in this for the long run, not to make the quick buck (no pun intended to QB). Too many people think short term profits, its all about long term.

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that number of 'lost' customers is enormous. but few in this business cared or care about it - it's always been grab all the money you can now - who cares about the future. There are millions of surfers who have been duped by scams who will never join another site - and for every one of those there are the 10 friends they told that porn paysites are a scam.

To all the people who sent millions of hits to Atherton's program Porncash - did you ever think about checking out what was inside?

I did - almost nothing was inside his paysites, maxiumum i'd say maybe $1,000 worth of content. Billed at 39.95 and 49.95 a month.

There are plenty of people on these boards who are supporting him.
yes, I said it before..that was how free loaders on tgp's was born. I can bet on that motha FUCKERS!

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Old 12-19-2003, 12:18 AM   #94
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So don't come here with your silly ass complaing about how traffic doesn't convert...you heard me. Ask Lensman on this one.

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Old 12-19-2003, 12:20 AM   #95
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Many of the poeple getting charged the 200 are gonna charge back.
Check out the fraud notice at his processer's site, it suggests charging back is fraud among other things to scare the avaerage user out of charging back


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Old 12-19-2003, 12:21 AM   #96
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I will pay any webmaster who can show me a screen cap of there paris hilton stats an extra $500 on there pay check if they send me 100 joins in a pay period!!! $1000 if they send me 200!!!!

And you can send to QUICKBUCK

or CONVERSIONCASH

And thats a guarentee!!! Fuck That mother fucker ATHERTON!!! Send it so someone who works hard and gives back to the other webmasters out there!!!
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Old 12-19-2003, 12:22 AM   #97
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I've been in this business for quite awhile and even though right now my income has taken a major kick in the ass I will not have anything to do with this whole Paris Hilton thing. I started this with the intentions of being in in for the long haul, not for quick money, scams or other bullshit, Personally, I'm fucking sick and tired of getting 100+ spams per day everyday having to do with that no brain slut paris hilton. It's scams like this that fuck things up for the rest of us. The more a surfer gets fucked the less they will buy memberships to porn sites and in the end we all lose.
correct--> this people that send signups should not be allowed to come to Vegas..

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interesting reading.

a glimpse inside Atherton's business. VISA Europe must be in a coma not to know this character is around.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:...n&ie=UTF-8</a>
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interesting reading.

a glimpse inside Atherton's business. VISA Europe must be in a coma not to know this character is around.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:...n&ie=UTF-8</a>
yes they are. It's just funny to see people not caring a shit about things like this..but then again VISA 1% was a monster for all the scam mofos here.

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