Should Saddam Hussein be put to death?

[CDSmith]

Not asking if the death penalty is right or wrong. What I'm asking is, IN THIS CASE, does the past actions of this man warrant him to be put to death.

Yes or no.

[SleazyDream]

it would make a great live tv broadcast

[OY]

Death penalty is wrong in all cases but when it comes to war crimes.

[JFPdude]

He should be kept alive till everything they are going to accuse him of is settled and there is a documented answer for all charges.

We know this will not all be brought out in a trial so yes he should be kept alive afterwards to answer to the families that he has wronged.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by SleazyDream
it would make a great live tv broadcast

I bet it would get more viewers than Chuck and Di's wedding.

[Spunky]

He should have a public stoning

[bena1975ca]

I think those voting options are a little narrow minded. I don't think he deserves to live after what he did, but I certainly don't think that he should be killed, equally, I don't think anybody should be killed.

2 wrongs don't make a right!

If the killing is to stop, someone needs to make the first move. Perhaps the Islamic people wouldn't have such a big issue with the U.S. if they showed some compassion and gave him back to their people to deal with as they will.

I certainly don't think the U.S. needs to enforce the position for which they stand any further. They could make him a martyr and stir up more bad emotion from the terrorist factions instilling further hatred for the nation and risking more terrorist attacks, or they could make a move and try to win the hearts of those groups that are still against them.

Perhaps the diplomatic move would be the best option this time. Diplomatic in the sense of giving the decision over to someone else instead of presenting them with the options that suit the U.S. best and leaning on them to make "the right decision".

[myjah]

yes, yes, yes and what are we waiting for already?

[directfiesta]

They should blow him up using his WMD !

[cluck]

Have him and Bush do a celebrity deathmatch. Have the winner face Mr. T.

[FTVGirls]

if one really wanted to make him suffer, the ultimate would have had him watching his sons go through the same torture practices he followed. Eg. put one of his sons through the shredder in front of him. Alas, his sons are dead, and he is a beaten and depressed man anyways.

[bena1975ca]

Originally posted by cluck
Have him and Bush do a celebrity deathmatch. Have the winner face Mr. T.

I think they should screen that on Pay Per View Worldwide and send the proceeds to help rebuild iraq.

But I already patented the idea, so if anyone actually does that, I want royalties

[cluck]

Originally posted by FTVGirls
if one really wanted to make him suffer, the ultimate would have had him watching his sons go through the same torture practices he followed. Eg. put one of his sons through the shredder in front of him. Alas, his sons are dead, and he is a beaten and depressed man anyways.

Saddam put Uday through months of torture to curb his violent behavior(yes, even SADDAM HEUSSEIN punished Uday for killing people too recklessly). It crippled him. 'Nuff said.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by bena1975ca
I think those voting options are a little narrow minded. I don't think he deserves to live after what he did, but I certainly don't think that he should be killed, equally, I don't think anybody should be killed.

2 wrongs don't make a right!

If the killing is to stop, someone needs to make the first move. Perhaps the Islamic people wouldn't have such a big issue with the U.S. if they showed some compassion and gave him back to their people to deal with as they will.

I certainly don't think the U.S. needs to enforce the position for which they stand any further. They could make him a martyr and stir up more bad emotion from the terrorist factions instilling further hatred for the nation and risking more terrorist attacks, or they could make a move and try to win the hearts of those groups that are still against them.

Perhaps the diplomatic move would be the best option this time. Diplomatic in the sense of giving the decision over to someone else instead of presenting them with the options that suit the U.S. best and leaning on them to make "the right decision".

So that's a no then?

[mryellow]

My first and last post on this subject.

Killing him will certainly not help the situation for anyone Muslim,
Christian, Arab, Jew, White or Black. Whenever one side does
something as bad as the other the cycle of violence just steps up
a notch.

If the aim is to create an unstable world then he should be killed
in public. If the aim is to reconcile the past and start on a good
platform to progress into the future then he should be treated
fairly and humanely.

When the Japanese were trained to mass murder whole villages
of civilians in their incursion into China the training even included
bayonet practice on live captives. However when POWs were
captured they were treated like humans and shortly after many
of them discovered just how out of touch with humanity their
training had made them. No one Japan believed what was
happening though and when they returned they were labelled as
having been brainwashed by communists. To this day not many
Japanese know about that part of their history. However this
humane treatment offered by the Chinese was the only saving
grace in the whole episode and is what allowed the truth to
eventually come out.

-Ben

[CDSmith]

I overheard one person saying yesterday that the Muslim world, especially Iraq, might see it as pure weakness if the US does not put him to death. Any thoughts on that point of view? I can certainly see where some in the middle east might see anything less than executing him as being weak, but being a peaceful man myself I feel there is a lot to be said for the more "diplomatic" approach as well.

[Zorgman]

Originally posted by spunky1
He should have a public stoning

Agred, 1 stone each, 4,000,000,000 people lined up!

[CDSmith]

Interesting percentage so far. Yet another issue where the public is horribly divided?

[jimboc]

Originally posted by FTVGirls
if one really wanted to make him suffer, the ultimate would have had him watching his sons go through the same torture practices he followed. Eg. put one of his sons through the shredder in front of him. Alas, his sons are dead, and he is a beaten and depressed man anyways.

I doubt that would bother him, he used to sleep with women and then slit their throats and torture most of his family anyway...

[completetosser]

Originally posted by CDSmith
I overheard one person saying yesterday that the Muslim world, especially Iraq, might see it as pure weakness if the US does not put him to death. Any thoughts on that point of view? I can certainly see where some in the middle east might see anything less than executing him as being weak, but being a peaceful man myself I feel there is a lot to be said for the more "diplomatic" approach as well.

I think it would be a mistake for the US themselves to do anything - I think he should be tried in Iraq by Iraqis, and whatever penalty he is given should also be carried out by Iraqis.
I also think we desperately need UN troops in Iraq now

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by completetosser
I think it would be a mistake for the US themselves to do anything - I think he should be tried in Iraq by Iraqis, and whatever penalty he is given should also be carried out by Iraqis.
I also think we desperately need UN troops in Iraq now

Yes, justice would be a tad poetic if the US were to allow the Iraqi people to deal with him themselves.



As for UN troops, there are those that would say "the cause wasn't good enough for the UN back when it started, the UN can go suck an egg now".... what about that school of thought? How would you answer those folks?

[donnie]

Why are you americans so obsessed with this man?? What did he ever do to you?? His regime lasted for 24 years and 12 of those he was your best friend. If he is guilty of war crimes than the USA is guilty too (also France and Germany and Russia and all other countries that supported him in his war against Iran)

But again, what do you have against him??? He killed alot of people but what did he ever do to you??? You are just bunch of idiots. 10 years ago you hated russians, now you hate muslims (Saddam Hussein), who are you going to hate next??

[Head]

Well the thing is; if the U.S puts him to death which they won't the terrorists will get even more pist off. But if the Iraqis put him to death which i think they will; U.S will come out clean and smelling of roses.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by donnie
Why are you americans so obsessed with this man?? What did he ever do to you?? His regime lasted for 24 years and 12 of those he was your best friend. If he is guilty of war crimes than the USA is guilty too (also France and Germany and Russia and all other countries that supported him in his war against Iran)

But again, what do you have against him??? He killed alot of people but what did he ever do to you??? You are just bunch of idiots. 10 years ago you hated russians, now you hate muslims (Saddam Hussein), <font color="Yellow">who are you going to hate next??</font>

Dunno... where do YOU live?



The US became "obsessed" with this man the second he ordered his army to invade Kuwait. Since then he has violated dozens of sanctions, most of which were placed on him to ensure peace and safety in the region. I guess where you come from, killing a few hundred thousand people warrants no attention.

Next.

[MPBWhitney]

Originally posted by bena1975ca

Perhaps the diplomatic move would be the best option this time. Diplomatic in the sense of giving the decision over to someone else instead of presenting them with the options that suit the U.S. best and leaning on them to make "the right decision".

i AGREE. This decision is not one that should be made my Bush or by the american ppl. This is a decision the Iraq ppl should make or the UN should make.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by MPBWhitney
i AGREE. This decision is not one that should be made my Bush or by the american ppl. This is a decision the Iraq ppl should make or the UN should make.

The poll question says nothing about WHO should make the decision. What it asks is SHOULD the guy be put to death? YES or NO? Whether it be by Iraq or by a world court is beside the point, an afterpoint if you will.


To fry or not to fry, that is the question.

[donnie]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Dunno... where do YOU live?



The US became "obsessed" with this man the second he ordered his army to invade Kuwait. Since then he has violated dozens of sanctions, most of which were placed on him to ensure peace and safety in the region. I guess where you come from, killing a few hundred thousand people warrants no attention.

Next.

I'm not defending him. What he did is wrong. And to see all this love you have for Kuwait and Iraq and the people over there, is really making me warm from inside. I feel like crying now.

Level of brainwashing in USA is really scary...

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by donnie
I'm not defending him. What he did is wrong. And to see all this love you have for Kuwait and Iraq and the people over there, is really making me warm from inside. I feel like crying now.

Level of brainwashing in USA is really scary...

Fuck, this word "brainwashing" has become at the obsessive-compulsive level over in Europe hasn't it? I'm sure YOU know the real deal on what happened in Kuwait, right smart guy? And of course the holocast never happened. Americans were brainwashed by CNN back in the 40's too.


Tell me more.

[darksoft]

Once he has been milked of info, the fucker should fry. Anything less would be tantamount to letting someone like hitler live.

If you don't agree, I really don't fucking care and I pile you in the ranks of pussy-ass pansy fucktards.

[donnie]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Fuck, this word "brainwashing" has become at the obsessive-compulsive level over in Europe hasn't it? I'm sure YOU know the real deal on what happened in Kuwait, right smart guy? And of course the holocast never happened. Americans were brainwashed by CNN back in the 40's too.


Tell me more.

Who gives a shit what hapend in Kuwait? Most of you idiots can't even find Kuwait on a map, but NO you where there just because you love them so much. You fucking idiot!!

And all those soldiers that are dieing in Iraq, how is it better for their families now?? But Bush family and their friends are much better off now. They are making money while you die.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by donnie
Who gives a shit what <font color="Yellow">hapend</font> in Kuwait? Most of you idiots can't even find Kuwait on a map, <font color="Yellow">but NO you where there just because you love them so much</font>. You fucking idiot!!

And all those soldiers that are <font color="Yellow">dieing</font> in Iraq, how is it better for their families now?? But Bush family and their friends are much better off now. They are making money while you die.

Okay, so whose the idiot again?

[Troels]

The Fifth Commandment + Death penalty?
I guess all who voted yes don't believe in God and his rulings!

Good for you! Welcome to the 21st century.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Troels
The Fifth Commandment + Death penalty?
I guess all who voted yes don't believe in God and his rulings!

Good for you! Welcome to the 21st century.

Oh god.


Ever hear of "an eye for an eye"? Hussein owes about 300,000 eyes.

[donnie]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Okay, so whose the idiot again?

You are

[Troels]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Oh god.


Ever hear of "an eye for an eye"? Hussein owes about 300,000 eyes.

Giving orders that result in civilian losses is a war crime? Yes or no?

Besides, this has nothing to do with Hussein. Fuck him. But there are PLENTY of other people who deserve this as well then. Where do we start, and where do we stop?

Death penalty is fucked up and does not belong in a civilized democracy in the 21st century imo.
You having Death Penalty convention with Saudi Arabia, North Korea and China?

[Roger]

If you want revenge for your own satisfaction then you can kill him. If you want justice you can put him in prison for life so he'll face responsibilities for his actions instead of dying and avoiding them.

But since Bush said that he should be killed, is there really any doubt about what will happen to Saddam? We all know who the new ruler of Iraq is.

[Troels]

Oh, and "eye for an eye", isn't that Islam 101?

Religion is sad. Think for yourself.

[Roger]

Originally posted by Troels
Oh, and "eye for an eye", isn't that Islam 101?

Religion is sad. Think for yourself.

I thought that was in the Bible.

Religion is nothing, the culture influences religion and not the other way around.

it's not the US's decision what is going to happen to him. it's the iraqi people who will decide what will happen to the one that ruled them for 20+ years. at least they should be the ones to decide. then again bush is a fuckin' monkey and who knows what will happen.

I wonder whatever happened to hunting down Osama. But I am definitely glad that the bush administration did something to make themselves look better for their voters.

Where were those WMDs that Saddam was hunted for in the first place? I am still missing them in the overall picture.

[Troels]

Might have been the bible. I burned my religious bridges a loooong time ago.

I'm a pornpeddler.... I'm on the highway to hell if that place exists no matter what. But I'm pretty confident it's from the same drawer as "the earth is flat!"...

[CDSmith]

Of course, there are those that would say "it is easy for most to decry the death penalty....... that is, until some psycho murders your wife, or your son or daughter.... then all you hear is 'KILL the bastard'".

I believe there is some truth in that view. Many who say the death penalty is wrong can't seem to imagine what it's like to have someone close to them brutally murdered and then watch the killer live for many years behind bars with three squares a day, tv and regular exercise.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by donnie
You are

Four have voted that they have their head up their ass. Can I safely assume you are one of them?

[Roger]

Originally posted by Equinox
Where were those WMDs that Saddam was hunted for in the first place? I am still missing them in the overall picture.

ssshhhh no need to bring that subject back, just trust the president when he says that Saddam got WMD's and is an imminent threat

[Troels]

If the death penalty actually prevents murders shouldn't the US have the safest streets in the world?

Ahh enough of this. Back to work.

[Wankenstein]

I'd give my little sister's virginity for the rights to that webcast!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by Oystein
Death penalty is wrong in all cases but when it comes to war crimes.

There is a lot of rapist american soldiers that youd see put to death if you justify death penalty for war crimes.

american soldiers have raped women in every war they have fought.

Expecially the poor Okinawa children.

Raping 12 and 6 year olds is surely a war crime

http://www.uchinanchu.org/history/19...e_incident.htm

'the number of rape cases between 1945 and 1997 was about 180, 22 of which were committed against young women less than 20 years of age. A 9-month-old baby was even included.'

http://www.focusweb.org/programmes/S...2000/Azato.htm

[Roger]

Originally posted by Troels
If the death penalty actually prevents murders shouldn't the US have the safest streets in the world?

Ahh enough of this. Back to work.

People nowadays are too used to it and don't think much of all the democratic and human rights values that they enjoyed for so long. If you never lived in a country where thieves get there hand cut off and murderers get there head cut off, it's hard to appreciate all the values you enjoy. People believe that it'll stop crime or something. All I can say is go there, take your time and you'll eventually realise that cutting off hands and heads contributes more to the problem. I used to be for that kind of justice, until I realised the obvious.