Shaving rebills on CCBILL? - GoFuckYourself.com

Kirkos Makarios · 12-17-2003, 07:06 AM

Hi!

http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content...opts_affil.htm

Nice option.

Don't be surprised when you will see maximum 2 or 1 rebills from your traffic.

It's just the fact that sponsor uses this feature.

Max rebills=2 or 1.

Have a nice day.

P.S. You can?t trust anyone this time.

SomeCreep · 12-17-2003, 07:17 AM

Interesting. I imagine that option is there because not all affiliate programs are 50/50 for life. For example, what if the affiliate program was 80/20 for the first 10 rebills? That option would allow for that.

pornJester · 12-17-2003, 07:18 AM

Maybe some programs have limited rebill payouts. People probably are shady and abuse this feature but doesn't mean that is what it was designed for.

slapass · 12-17-2003, 07:19 AM

Ouch ... Lots of the big companies use ccBill and I do great with them but the single site shops are harder fro me to make bank. I wonder if this is why.

Kirkos Makarios · 12-17-2003, 07:21 AM

This option does not allow changing the 80/20 to 50/50...

It allows only not paying after a number of rebills.

Did you notice the option: Pay for trial - Yes - No.

Even your trial sales may be shaved.....

Dildozer · 12-17-2003, 07:22 AM

Wow that's quite shitty but i guess it's to be expected

SomeCreep · 12-17-2003, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirkos Makarios
This option does not allow changing the 80/20 to 50/50...

It allows only not paying after a number of rebills.

Did you notice the option: Pay for trial - Yes - No.

Even your trial sales may be shaved.....

Yes, thats what I was saying, 80/20 for the first 10 rebills and then no more payment on any other rebills. (Personally I'd prefer a 50/50 for life, but thats not to say someone wouldnt want to set up an affiliate program like my 80/20 example.)

stocktrader23 · 12-17-2003, 07:28 AM

I use CCBill so I can't get shaved.

Kirkos Makarios · 12-17-2003, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I use CCBill so I can't get shaved.

This proves that even using CCBILL you can get shaved.

On trials, rebills....

FUCK!!!

stocktrader23 · 12-17-2003, 07:40 AM

This is why I use CCBill sponsors.

HarlotCash Dyker · 12-17-2003, 07:42 AM

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Not ALL ccbill webmasters use this option -
This referrer has so far made nearly 600$ from this customer - When we set up the programme, we left rebilling payments to webmasters for life - And it fucking well stays like it, too -

johnbosh · 12-17-2003, 07:43 AM

Kirkos Makarios · 12-17-2003, 07:49 AM

Nice.

I didn't pretend that all sponsors use this feature.

I sad it "MAY BE USED"

So the sentences like "I use CCBILL and can't get shaved, are obsolete"

... and if a sponsor may use this feature, how many of them will actually resist ?

BlueFly · 12-17-2003, 07:57 AM

I don't think this has anything to do with payout to webmasters. This looks like an option to let the surfer off the hook after a set number of rebills. If the surfer stops being billed, how can you get a percentage from it. This isn't shaving.

FATPad · 12-17-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by BlueFly
I don't think this has anything to do with payout to webmasters. This looks like an option to let the surfer off the hook after a set number of rebills. If the surfer stops being billed, how can you get a percentage from it. This isn't shaving.

Stop Paying Rebills - Sets whether or not the payments should be continued after a specified number of times. Select Yes to display the Stop After Rebill Number Text Box, which allows you to enter a number where you want to stop the rebill payments. Select No to allow the rebill to payout continually.
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Stop After Rebill Number - Sets the amount of times to payout rebills to Affiliates after the start of a subscription. For example, to stop after rebilling once for a trial subscription, set the Stop After Rebill Number to "1".

BlueFly · 12-17-2003, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueFly
I don't think this has anything to do with payout to webmasters. This looks like an option to let the surfer off the hook after a set number of rebills. If the surfer stops being billed, how can you get a percentage from it. This isn't shaving.

Shit, I don't know... I have read that damn thing 3 times now. They could be talking about payout to webmasters... Pretty shitty, if some of the programs that advertise "for life" use this.

corvette · 12-17-2003, 09:23 AM

Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

the real magoo · 12-17-2003, 09:30 AM

wish you could remove that java test that I have to do every time I log in to the affiliate system.

jimmyf · 12-17-2003, 09:38 AM

Yes every time I delete history, and delete cookies, I go Thru. 3 or 4 screen, asking if I want 2 install Java

swedguy · 12-17-2003, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

I was just going to ask that. Nice job

TheSenator · 12-17-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

When will this option be available?

I want to see which sponsor abuses this method.
I want those accounts flagged so that I can stop traffic to them.

TheSenator · 12-17-2003, 04:13 PM

ummm....bump fart

twistyneck · 12-17-2003, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

nononononoonononononooooooooo!!!!!!! I just turned the shave-o-matic on for my affiliates. It's not broken, don't fix it!

TheSenator · 12-17-2003, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck

nononononoonononononooooooooo!!!!!!! I just turned the shave-o-matic on for my affiliates. It's not broken, don't fix it!

Please......fix this option.

As an affiliate I want to know who is fucking me up the ass.

twistyneck · 12-17-2003, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator

Please......fix this option.

As an affiliate I want to know who is fucking me up the ass.

Just so you know, this option is buried ultra-deep in the CCBill admin area. I doubt that 99.9% of the programs would have even known about it except for threads like this. It is not easy to find.

Having said that, I'm turning it up full blast.

TheSenator · 12-17-2003, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twistyneck

Just so you know, this option is buried ultra-deep in the CCBill admin area. I doubt that 99.9% of the programs would have even known about it except for threads like this. It is not easy to find.

Having said that, I'm turning it up full blast.

I was searching for an affiliate who only offers three month worth of rebills.....shit can't find any....I hate it when sponsors don't turn on that fantastic shave feature.

twistyneck · 12-17-2003, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSenator

I was searching for an affiliate who only offers three month worth of rebills.....shit can't find any....I hate it when sponsors don't turn on that fantastic shave feature.

I can hook you up.

skillfull · 12-17-2003, 06:02 PM

struggle7 · 12-17-2003, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

Corvett,

I am happy to hear this. I would like to encourage you to make sure that the display given to affiliates is a FULL representation of ALL options related to affiliates and respective payments.

Also some humble suggestions:

- There should be an option for each account that an affiliate has to be notified by email of any change to the respective settings as they relate to affiliate payments. There should be no way to clandestinly turn payments off and on using the CCBILL interface without affiliates knowing for example - affiliates should be able to recieve notification. Fair is fair.

- Is ther any way we can see a history of chnges within the past "X" months for each respective sponsor account we are under? You know, Just to reassure ourselves of the past honesty of the fine webmasters which we are affiliates for?

:

Anyway, good to see CCBILL cares about such things and at least is open to dialog and input. Very encouraging.

Shoplifter · 12-17-2003, 07:25 PM

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Originally posted by SomeCreep
Interesting. I imagine that option is there because not all affiliate programs are 50/50 for life. For example, what if the affiliate program was 80/20 for the first 10 rebills? That option would allow for that.

Not sure if you can switch the ratios. That would be cool though.

Martin · 12-17-2003, 07:33 PM

That's bullshit. That shouldn't be there PERIOD!

Fabien · 12-17-2003, 07:41 PM

EXCATLY !!!

So, let's all steal CONTENT, TRAFFIC etc....

Anyways, those that fuck the less are the ones that stay.
It's funny how in this industry so many people are in it for a "quicky"

They would be way more money for them (without all the problems) playing "fair"

Anyways

Sausage · 12-17-2003, 08:28 PM

CCBill knows that if they dont have some option or way to 'shave' then they will lose clients.

Its a fact.

rowan · 12-17-2003, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by corvett
Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program.

Please include whether the affiliate or the site pays the processing fees! A site that is listed as paying 50% could really only be paying about 43-44% of gross if the processing fee comes out of my cut.

jscott · 12-17-2003, 08:49 PM

i think there should be a way that the affiliate/partner gets notified that his rebills get cut off, thats the only fair way to do it imo

Argoz · 12-18-2003, 12:55 AM

Bad option...

12-17-2003, 07:06 AM	#1
Kirkos Makarios Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79	Shaving rebills on CCBILL? Hi! http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content...opts_affil.htm Nice option. Don't be surprised when you will see maximum 2 or 1 rebills from your traffic. It's just the fact that sponsor uses this feature. Max rebills=2 or 1. Have a nice day. P.S. You can?t trust anyone this time.

12-17-2003, 07:17 AM	#2
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	Interesting. I imagine that option is there because not all affiliate programs are 50/50 for life. For example, what if the affiliate program was 80/20 for the first 10 rebills? That option would allow for that. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

12-17-2003, 07:18 AM	#3
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12-17-2003, 07:22 AM	#6
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12-17-2003, 07:28 AM	#8
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	I use CCBill so I can't get shaved. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

12-17-2003, 07:19 AM	#4
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Ouch ... Lots of the big companies use ccBill and I do great with them but the single site shops are harder fro me to make bank. I wonder if this is why.

12-17-2003, 07:21 AM	#5
Kirkos Makarios Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79	This option does not allow changing the 80/20 to 50/50... It allows only not paying after a number of rebills. Did you notice the option: Pay for trial - Yes - No. Even your trial sales may be shaved.....

12-17-2003, 07:40 AM	#10
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	This is why I use CCBill sponsors. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

12-17-2003, 07:42 AM	#11
HarlotCash Dyker Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: At a whorehouse near you Posts: 1,828	Rebill 1006996549 on 2000-09-20 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1007772265 on 2000-10-20 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1008556603 on 2000-11-19 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1009387281 on 2000-12-19 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1010215237 on 2001-01-18 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1011070281 on 2001-02-17 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1011947815 on 2001-03-19 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1012839858 on 2001-04-18 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1013747277 on 2001-05-18 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1014679871 on 2001-06-17 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1015596922 on 2001-07-17 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1016538804 on 2001-08-16 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1017499894 on 2001-09-15 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1018523869 on 2001-10-15 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1019546017 on 2001-11-14 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1020573067 on 2001-12-14 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1021578298 on 2002-01-13 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1022611877 on 2002-02-12 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1023649585 on 2002-03-14 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1024707132 on 2002-04-13 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1025763735 on 2002-05-13 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1026827266 on 2002-06-12 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1027897073 on 2002-07-12 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1029017107 on 2002-08-11 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1030118450 on 2002-09-10 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1031185199 on 2002-10-10 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1032236667 on 2002-11-09 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1033290474 on 2002-12-09 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1034272149 on 2003-01-08 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1035253653 on 2003-02-07 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1036231338 on 2003-03-09 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1037232056 on 2003-04-08 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1038281689 on 2003-05-08 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1039357163 on 2003-06-07 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1040423666 on 2003-07-07 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1041521596 on 2003-08-06 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1042717555 on 2003-09-05 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1043959932 on 2003-10-05 for $29.95 Too old to refund Rebill 1045258455 on 2003-11-04 for $29.95 Refund Transaction Rebill 1046593218 on 2003-12-04 for $29.95 Refund Transaction Not ALL ccbill webmasters use this option - This referrer has so far made nearly 600$ from this customer - When we set up the programme, we left rebilling payments to webmasters for life - And it fucking well stays like it, too - __________________ !!!Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash<<>>Harlot Cash!!!

12-17-2003, 07:43 AM	#12
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12-17-2003, 07:49 AM	#13
Kirkos Makarios Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 79	Nice. I didn't pretend that all sponsors use this feature. I sad it "MAY BE USED" So the sentences like "I use CCBILL and can't get shaved, are obsolete" ... and if a sponsor may use this feature, how many of them will actually resist ?

12-17-2003, 07:57 AM	#14
BlueFly Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NC, USA Posts: 716	I don't think this has anything to do with payout to webmasters. This looks like an option to let the surfer off the hook after a set number of rebills. If the surfer stops being billed, how can you get a percentage from it. This isn't shaving. __________________ Now Taking Hard Link Trades BTW - NEVER use thexxxhost.com

12-17-2003, 09:23 AM	#17
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Kirkos Makarios, this option was originally added to give our clients the flexibility of various payout structures. We are in the process of adding a section in the affiliate reports where you can view the various options selected for each of your specific account under the corresponding CCBill program. __________________ If you need a good company for check writing services, then check out checkissuing, and for webhosting, check out Phoenix NAP

12-17-2003, 09:30 AM	#18
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	wish you could remove that java test that I have to do every time I log in to the affiliate system.

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12-17-2003, 04:13 PM	#22
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12-17-2003, 07:33 PM	#31
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12-17-2003, 07:41 PM	#32
Fabien Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,787	EXCATLY !!! So, let's all steal CONTENT, TRAFFIC etc.... Anyways, those that fuck the less are the ones that stay. It's funny how in this industry so many people are in it for a "quicky" They would be way more money for them (without all the problems) playing "fair" Anyways Last edited by Fabien; 12-17-2003 at 07:43 PM..

12-17-2003, 08:28 PM	#33
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	CCBill knows that if they dont have some option or way to 'shave' then they will lose clients. Its a fact.

12-17-2003, 08:49 PM	#35
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	i think there should be a way that the affiliate/partner gets notified that his rebills get cut off, thats the only fair way to do it imo

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