tipping is mostly a socio-economic thing...

not a race thing...


oi




PS: 50 racist tippers

as a standard, i always tip 20%... unless i get shitty service. if the service is shitty i always tip a penny to them them know just how bad it was.

one time i went as far as spitting on the money.

How come no one has noticed the profound ramifications of this thread.

Ponder this:

Waiters and waitresses have been shown over and over again that the tips will be lower with some clients than from other clients.

On the flip side the clients feel they are getting shitty service. They chalk it up to a racism.

When it actuality all of the worlds problems would be solved if people just tipped better.

Profound.

"The average tip from a black customer is about 13 percent of the bill. The average tip from a white customer is about 16.5 percent of the bill," says Dr. Michael Lynn, the study's author.



all this for 3.5%

I bet it cost the Tax payers over $1 million just to research this.


Wanna know the irony of it? The more people talk about it, then more the waiters will give less of a service to black customers cuz they know there not gonna get tip good anyways

My mother did some waitressing when my parents first got divorced I saw first hand how little money she made but how hard she worked.

This was during the time when they were allowed to pay less than min. wage because the government claimed that they would make it up in tips.

Anyhoo....she pounded into me the importance of tipping when it comes to good service. I always make sure to leave a nice tip.

If it's a place I want to frequent often then I make sure to leave an even nicer tip.

My dad on the other hand is a cheap mother fucker. When we go out to eat and he says something like..."don't worry I've got the tip." I always wait until he's not looking and throw down what should cover at least 15%.

Does this thread justify Denny's in anyway?

lets see the numbers

typical $30 meal

on the average black person would tip $4.5
on the average white person would tip $4.95


all this for 45 cents? lol

Pizza Hut pizza kicks ass. Pizza is a staple of life. The only place better is Pizza King and that chain is local to certain parts of the country.

its not race - it's all in the person. i know plenty of well-to-do white people who just won't tip well.

In Indiana we call all soda and pop "coke." If you ask for a coke at my house, we'll ask you what kind, Mountain Dew, Sprite, Crush, Coke, etc. Everything is coke.

I have found that it depends on where you work too. I worked at a nice place, and the black people that came in tipped as well as any other. I worked in a shitty place, and everyone that came in tipped like shit.

Actually, the averages are lower because there are more people leaving no tip at all. No tip at all is the real subject of the discussion. Being cheap and leaving a small tip is one thing. $1 for a $25 pizza order is better than nothing. But I'm talking about getting no tip at all, night after night, until it creates a stereotype and then colleges go out and do research on it.

Yes, because in reality, it's a socio-economic problem and not a racial problem.

When i pick up a pizza at Pizza Hut counter, i never tip eventhough they still have a space to add it in the reciept.

does this count

It also depends on how you were raised. I grew up fairly poor with a frugal blue collar dad. He left a tip when we went to the steak house, but I realize now that he tipped about 5% or less. This was normal to me until I became an adult and realized that leaving a dollar for a party of 5 (two adults and 3 kids) is not acceptable. I actually trained my dad to be a better tipper after I learned. I'm sure his blue collar father didn't know any better either.

Education stops the problem.


OR...we could abolish the whole tipping thing and just pay higher prices at restaurants, since I don't really think the promise of a tip leads to better service these days anway. Just pay them $15 an hour and people will work hard to keep their job.

Nope. You picked it up...they didn't bring it to you. ;)

I have the feeling your question was rhetorical though.

Some of them don't tip because they don't have a good service... me too when I don't have good service I don't tip

You obviously have never been to Papa Gino's in New England (Mainly Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut).

That, my friend, is the defacto standard all other pizzas should be judged upon.

same in Texas...coke has come to mean soft drink/soda/ etc.

If you also notice the majority of porn stars boyfriends are black.

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I'm Asian, and it's custom for us to tip everywhere we go. Whether it's to an upscale bistro or a Pizza Hut.

Been there...didn't excite me.

I'm a ****** workin in da god damm cotton fields all day, and when i's go out to MacDonalds me's dont want to give no tip to the whitey

I misread this...I was like wtf? q-tip ain't white

It's a nice theory, but I've been in countries (like Australia for example), where people do not tip and the waiters/resses make $15 / hour, and it doesn't hold up. Nothing against Australia, I really like it there, but the service isn't anywhere NEAR as quick, efficient and friendly as it is in the US.:2 cents:

But Australians are raised in the outback with crocodiles and shit...I saw it in a movie. That's why they don't have any manners.

Didn't know ******s were allowed in resteraunts.

I didn't find that much of a difference between the states and Australia in terms of service. But I will admit there probably is a difference - commensense says there should be.. I just didn't really notice it, It might depend on the type of resturant you go to etc though - I don't go to places where you get "refills" and it's not like I travelled extensively while there or anything.

I'll tip here in oz even though you don't need to, but I don't like being FORCED to tip. I'll tip taxi's, a good meal at a good resturant, but not menial stuff and I loathe forced service - for instance toilet attendants.

kfc is closed on christmas where are they going to eat christmas dinner?

Is it mandatory to fucking TIP, you can't expect a tip, a tip is good to get, but you can't always expect it!

jDoG

I run/own a restaurant, when ppl ask me about tipping i tell them
only tip if the service/food was good, and that coming back is the best form of tipping,
they usually do tip then :Graucho

mind you we pay $13+/hour

my wife used to work as a cart girl at a very high end type golf course here in southern california. She used to tell me how black customers would always first ask her what they had on the cart for free. Then they would ask the prices of a few items then complain about the price of the grape or orange soda they wanted to buy..then not tip. Same exact experience every day...most of these guys were rolling up in Benzes and BMW's

A few things boy are some of you cheap lol. Well they are making 6 something a hour so I dont tip. You try living on 6 something a hour lol. Also this urban legand about black men tipping alot in strip clubs. I worked in strip clubs and jack shacks for 15 yrs, historically black men always tried to get the most from the girl for the least amount of money and I am far from a racist I live in one of the largest African American neighborhoods in Atlanta.

lol@why dont blacks tip.. and they say WE complain... geez

blacks dont tip, because when we go somwhere nice and act like civilized people.. the employess wanna act like there above us.. so therefore.. they dont deserve shit....

they outta be happy enough we aint fuck up their establishment

What about the fucker in the bathroom at the strip club. all dressed up, turning on the water faucet for you. handing you paper towels. offering you a spray of cologne or a mint or candy...

What (if any) is proper to tip him ??

Fuck that guy. I can dry my own damn hands... I WANT to dry my own hands in a public toilet.. invest in an automatic sensor tap and fuck that guy off, I don't want to be pressured into accepting unwanted services and then have to pay for them..
I paid one guy $5 but personally I find it very off-putting...

LOL! Too funny! When I was in High school/College I used to deliver pizza in my hometown. We used to always get this guy who would order every couple of nights. He always used to get the same thing... A medium cheese pizza... Came to like $6.98 or something stupid. Anyways this guy never left a tip and the worst thing was that he STUNK. I mean this guy must have had some fierce medical condition as the whole fucking hallway to his apartment smelled like him. It was absolutely fucking disgusting!!!

The delivery guys I would work with would do anything to be out of the shop whenever that guy's order came in. It was almost like russian roulette to get someone to deliver to this guys house. The funniest thing was that the guy was less than a block away!

Lazy smelly bastard!!!!

DH

P.S. I can't really comment on the whole black thing as we had like all of 10 black families in our entire town growing up. And for the most part they were whiter than us! LOL! :winkwink:

Code names used to described black patrons in restaurants by servers....I hate Canadians....Fucking foreigners....Cheap French people in section 9.....

"Unskilled fucking light labor"....MY ASS...This is Headpimp's wife and I waited tables for 15 years. I earned every damn dime that I made and I worked my ass off for it. I was very good at what I did and I don't feel at all ashamed for expecting a descent tip. I do believe that it is a courtesy and not a requirement and I prided myself in treating every table no matter who they were with excellent service and respect. I have worked for many different restaurants all the way up to five star steak houses and there is nothing like kissing someones ass, being at their beckon call and having them stiff you. If you don't like to tip, no problem. Just dine at places where it is not a standard and enjoy your happy meal. If you all will shove a $5 bill down the g-string of some bimbo who shakes her tits in your face for 10 seconds, then it shouldn't be too much to ask to tip someone who spends 1-2 hours waiting on you hand and foot.

The tip should really go to the chef who made the food, not someone just carrying the plate 20 feet to your table.

Its their fucking job to carry over the food and take orders, and the company pays them for it. Yet they somehow convinced us they should be paid extra money for doing their job.
Many many people work harder then a waiter for minimum wage and don't get tips. Should those people do a shitty job cause the customer isn't PAYING them ontop of their salary from the company?

With that said I do tip 10%

Heh. 10%.

yep