And what will the upstream providers do now that there is legal spam?
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Most mainstream data centers already do a lot of spamming, you'd be suprised.
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I'm not suprised, most affiliate progs allow spam etc. Spam is an important cashflow for a ton of companies but they try to hide that fact with "We don't tolerate any spam" shit all over their site. And the upstreams don't like it either. I'm just wondering if there will be one that comes out and provides the service.Originally posted by Rich
Most mainstream data centers already do a lot of spamming, you'd be suprised.
Could be a fuckload of money involved.
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when u find that host, let me know so i can resell to all these gfyers
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Haha, no doubt. And the fact that you have to put a real address is going to cause problems. Anti's are like fucking nazi's. I'm sure there will be some shootings at legal spam offices some time in the future.Originally posted by InsaneGreen
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who cares if you are out of US
spam is legal in the US
antis CANT bullshit us in canada
and bulletproof hosting/mailing server in the US will be soon really cheap
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I know some hosting companies are reading this. Come on, give us your take on the new law. Are you definitive one way or the other or are you waiting on someone else to step up first?
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translate me legal spamComment
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CAN-SPAM was signed by Bush today making spam legal if you follow the law.Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
translate me legal spam
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i thought he would do that within 2004
any link?
rackshack and rackspace will be among the first to comply.Comment
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This thread links to the full article.Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
i thought he would do that within 2004
any link?
rackshack and rackspace will be among the first to comply.
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=209380
But basically spammers have 120 days to comply after Jan 1st. After that, spam is legal if you follow the new rules.
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the sure is the law will increase spamComment
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Bump for the hosting companies.
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let's see
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i would say as long as you comply with the rule and can buy new unblacklisted IPs you will be good.Comment
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he got saddam, he's legalizing spam. if he wasn't all about turning this country into a police state, i'd say he's not that bad a guy.Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.Comment
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I can't wait to see what spin-friendly new marketing word they come up with. Double-opt in, mass mailers, bulk mailing, etc.. are all already stigmatized.Obama Said: "We can absorb a terrorist attack."Comment
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Originally posted by smack
he got saddam, he's legalizing spam. if he wasn't all about turning this country into a police state, i'd say he's not that bad a guy.
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legalizing spam is good? picture 500 huge business's starting their spam operations now? Target is going to spend 500,000$ on a nice mail operation and own the internet with mail. so will best buy and any other store that can mail people few times per day and it will alwyase convert because they have so much.. and they can do it legal now.. why not?Originally posted by smack
he got saddam, he's legalizing spam. if he wasn't all about turning this country into a police state, i'd say he's not that bad a guy.Comment
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They could have done it before.Originally posted by gin
legalizing spam is good? picture 500 huge business's starting their spam operations now? Target is going to spend 500,000$ on a nice mail operation and own the internet with mail. so will best buy and any other store that can mail people few times per day and it will alwyase convert because they have so much.. and they can do it legal now.. why not?
Edit: And it's better than the anti's getting their way and locking spammers up for 20 years for sending fucking email.
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shit was fine how it wasOriginally posted by stocktrader23
They could have done it before.
Edit: And it's better than the anti's getting their way and locking spammers up for 20 years for sending fucking email.
.. and you don't goto jail for sending email that is like a myth.. i've herd about more people getting stuck by lightening then going to prison for sending email
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Several states have spam laws and Cali had a tough one that was supposed to go into effect Jan 1st.Originally posted by gin
shit was fine how it was .. and you don't goto jail for sending email that is like a myth.. i've herd about more people getting stuck by lightening then going to prison for sending email
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When was spam ever illegal (except for certain states)??? The reasons for hosts not allowing spam, is because they don't want their ips put on a blacklist. It never had to do with it being illegal, because it never has been (except for a few states). Having a hosts ip put on a blacklist has nothing to do with the laws and government.Comment
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SPAM sucks donkey dick. A few big companies are spamming me right now. I am gonna e-mail them about it and if it doesn't stop then I will simply shame the fuckers on here.Comment
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well... ya they signed the bill.. but what difference will that make for the hosting companies? the only reason they don't host people right now is from black lists.. you get your own ips and any host will host you and put up with complaints for a while until upstream bitches.. so how would mailing make any difference? spamhaus.org rules state "if these are opt in emails you should NOT use a remove link, they should not remove themselves if they opted in to recieve this" but on the bush shit it says opositite.. so spamhaus will still block your mail and the hostings ip.. nothing really changed
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I remember back in the old days when Cyberpromo "Spamford Wallace" was around, the backbone agis.net would actually promote that they allowed spam. I had a half rack with them and a few mbps. Was nice while it lasted. I have a feeling backbones won't be advertising it like this again no matter what laws exist.
It's all going to be on the "Hush, Hush and on the QT" if so.Comment
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You can bet SpamHaus , SpamCop, SPEWS and anti-spam software vendors will LOVE the US I-CAN-SPAM law.
Since it is illegal to hide behind proxies, forged headers and since you have to LABEL porn/adult SPAM and include a VALID company mailing address, spamming scumbags and their hosts will be blacklisted, tracked and blocked quite easily. The hosts that decide to take spammer money will find themselves on their own intranet.
I suggest all those whose want to scrub their email and route the crap to the trash where it belongs .... check out http://spampal.org for a great freeware filter that uses all the blocklists and Regex filter COMBINED.
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