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goBigtime · 12-16-2003, 09:21 AM

http://dc.internet.com/news/article.php/3289551

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The law would become effective Jan. 1 and e-mail marketers have 120 days from that date to comply with the new law.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 09:31 AM

I wonder if hosting companies will start offering legal spammers servers. Now that spamming is cool if you follow the rules what will upstream providers and such think.

goBigtime · 12-16-2003, 09:52 AM

I wonder if people will start suing the blacklists for unfair business practices and whatever else... I have a feeling blacklists are going to be injunctioned to death in the next six months.

Hooper · 12-16-2003, 09:54 AM

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Head · 12-16-2003, 09:56 AM

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stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 09:57 AM

Haha, it's legal to send UNSOLICITED bulk mail but it's illegal to harvest emails. Where else is there to get them, just buying lists?

goBigtime · 12-16-2003, 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Haha, it's legal to send UNSOLICITED bulk mail but it's illegal to harvest emails. Where else is there to get them, just buying lists?

And how do you know/prove that your list was not harvested?

And is it legal to harvest data that contains emails if you do not use or store the emails?

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime

And how do you know/prove that your list was not harvested?

This is what happens when people oblivious to how the net works write laws to govern it. How much you wanna bet one of Bush's allies is firing up the servers right now to spam legally.

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Originally posted by Hooper
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Originally posted by Hooper
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beemk · 12-16-2003, 10:09 AM

so that means you can buy lists?

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by beemk
so that means you can buy lists?

I guess you'd have to buy lists that were collected "legally". It says specifically no harvesting or dictionary attacks. Hell they pretty much gave everyone a free run for 4 months though, fucking weird.

skillfull · 12-16-2003, 10:14 AM

yah00 !!!
bush made my day
im not in us
but this biz is now legal
so only serious mailer will stay in the us
= less competition from John Doe
canada spam law are just ended in the paperbasket
lets the $$$$$$$$$ enter ;)

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by skillfull
yah00 !!!
bush made my day
im not in us
but this biz is now legal
so only serious mailer will stay in the us
= less competition from John Doe
canada spam law are just ended in the paperbasket
lets the $$$$$$$$$ enter ;)

What is the legal standing on spam from Canada?

Furious_Male · 12-16-2003, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by goBigtime
I wonder if people will start suing the blacklists for unfair business practices and whatever else... I have a feeling blacklists are going to be injunctioned to death in the next six months.

I am curious about this as well. Is it legal to black list email marketers that are marketing in compliance with US law? Will it be legal for big providers like AOL to continue to block these "law abiding" marketers?

skillfull · 12-16-2003, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

What is the legal standing on spam from Canada?

spam is legal
nothing in the law against it
some senators were trying to make a law about it
when Paul Martin became Prime Minister
he throwed the future law in the garbage
nothing before end of 2004 ;)

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Furious_Male

I am curious about this as well. Is it legal to black list email marketers that are marketing in compliance with US law? Will it be legal for big providers like AOL to continue to block these "law abiding" marketers?

That would be like the phone company blacklisting telemarketers no?

cluck · 12-16-2003, 10:23 AM

I've been saying it for years, but spam is now officially the AMERICAN WAY.

msg · 12-16-2003, 10:26 AM

Thanks for my wonderful Xmas gift Mr. Bush!

Furious_Male · 12-16-2003, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

That would be like the phone company blacklisting telemarketers no?

One would think. This is going to be an interesting shake down the next 1+ year.

Gemini · 12-16-2003, 10:30 AM

I don't think spammers will get as far as they think they will by sueing people who have anti lists...

LamboSV · 12-16-2003, 10:31 AM

Yep here in Mtl spam gets you a slap on the hand lol not even ....the worst situation would be an ISP account deactivation

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Gemini
I don't think spammers will get as far as they think they will by sueing people who have anti lists...

Maybe not. We're talking more about the people that use those lists to block their customers from getting spam. I don't think the phone company could legally block telemarketers from calling their customers.

Now they anti's if anything would be sued for causing a loss of business to the legal spammer. It depends on how the law is worded but this could be a big issue.

Time will tell.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by LamboSV
Yep here in Mtl spam gets you a slap on the hand lol not even ....the worst situation would be an ISP account deactivation

So what do the backbone providers think about it?

Abyss_Vee · 12-16-2003, 10:42 AM

"This bill does not stop a single spam from being sent. It only makes that spam slightly more truthful."

Brad-Wishing · 12-16-2003, 10:43 AM

That means we have 130 some odd days to spam the freaking hell out of the world with shit.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:44 AM

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Originally posted by Brad-Wishing
That means we have 130 some odd days to spam the freaking hell out of the world with shit.

You can spam the world after that if you follow the law.

ytcracker · 12-16-2003, 10:46 AM

the book of spam
http://www.livejournal.com/users/bkofspam/

the book of spam
consult it if ye be misguided

Veterans Day · 12-16-2003, 10:50 AM

so let me get this straight I can mail the fuck outta peole if i dont change headers and give an opt-out? And the upstream cant do anything? I dont mail but I maybe very soon

Gemini · 12-16-2003, 10:51 AM

Yes they can stocktrader... think about it... The phone company has a TOS... just like AOL. Now when I contract for phone services, its a legal assumption that I read or had read to me their terms of service-service contract. If I don't like that they shut off telemarketing calls, then I can contract with someone that doesn't.

Same with AOL... if we used them and I didn't like that they shut that spam away from me, then their is always Earthlink etc.

Now say our company posts a list that shows email addresses that we have rec'v'd spam from, it is NOT our legal responsibility if YOU use that list to block spam from as well.

Spammers are throwing the party abit early... And the ones that didn't follow the rules to begin with won't follow them now, so that law could very possibly be the noose around their necks.

They'll probably amend that law to say that you can no longer put optouts on yet another list for resale. No more of that "or one of our affiliated sites". lol

Disclaimer! POSSIBLE Noose! lol

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
so let me get this straight I can mail the fuck outta peole if i dont change headers and give an opt-out? And the upstream cant do anything? I dont mail but I maybe very soon

No, the law doesn't control what the upstream has to say. I posted another thread about this same thing. I'm wondering who will be the first though.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Gemini
Yes they can stocktrader... think about it... The phone company has a TOS... just like AOL. Now when I contract for phone services, its a legal assumption that I read or had read to me their terms of service-service contract. If I don't like that they shut off telemarketing calls, then I can contract with someone that doesn't.

Same with AOL... if we used them and I didn't like that they shut that spam away from me, then their is always Earthlink etc.

Now say our company posts a list that shows email addresses that we have rec'v'd spam from, it is NOT our legal responsibility if YOU use that list to block spam from as well.

Spammers are throwing the party abit early... And the ones that didn't follow the rules to begin with won't follow them now, so that law could very possibly be the noose around their necks.

They'll probably amend that law to say that you can no longer put optouts on yet another list for resale. No more of that "or one of our affiliated sites". lol

Disclaimer! POSSIBLE Noose! lol

I don't know where to start. First of all, every phone company goes through a main provider for that area. Don't you think if a company could advertise that they block telemarketers they would do it by now? How many people hate telemarketing calls.

And I'm not talking about companies that show a list of emails that spammed them. That's just factual information. I'm talking about the blacklists that are used so other companies can block emails to their customers. That isn't the main issue anyhow.

As far as spammers not following the law now, what law? Some states made some piss ant laws but there has never been federal regulation.

I have never heard of a phone company filtering telemarketing calls before they got to you. You do have the option to block that phone number yourself.

I'm going to read the law more when I'm less tired and do some reading on some things but I bet there is a good chance that blocking legal spam will be a problem for ISP's.

CAHEK · 12-16-2003, 11:01 AM

why did i vote for BUSH ?

i should vote for someone else

TheJimmy · 12-16-2003, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by Hooper
wwoooooo hooo!!!

what he said...

ytcracker · 12-16-2003, 11:02 AM

stock -

they do have this service u can buy where it plays a recording when someone calls you and its like "if ur selling shit hang the fuck up otehrwise press 1"

i paraphrased it

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by CAHEK
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Haha. Find a host with an upstream provider that will allow legal spam and you will get rich as an affiliate.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:05 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
stock -

they do have this service u can buy where it plays a recording when someone calls you and its like "if ur selling shit hang the fuck up otehrwise press 1"

i paraphrased it

Yes, that's the same as blocking somebody's number. I can personally choose to not have whatever calls I decide coming to my house, but can they choose for me? I seriously doubt the phone company can regulate who can call me or not without my permission.

Veterans Day · 12-16-2003, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Yes, that's the same as blocking somebody's number. I can personally choose to not have whatever calls I decide coming to my house, but can they choose for me? I seriously doubt the phone company can regulate who can call me or not without my permission.

the phone company cant filter your calls on their own, cmon people

ytcracker · 12-16-2003, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

Yes, that's the same as blocking somebody's number. I can personally choose to not have whatever calls I decide coming to my house, but can they choose for me? I seriously doubt the phone company can regulate who can call me or not without my permission.

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stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by ytcracker

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH

i see what you are saying

yes yes yes

Hehe, I could see a big spammer fighting on this issue. Think of how much money is involved.

skillfull · 12-16-2003, 11:14 AM

yep, if all major domains are forced to shutdown their spam filter
this is the eldorado for all solid mailers !

Veterans Day · 12-16-2003, 11:16 AM

were can one find the exact laws of what can and cant be done? is it out on the net

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:17 AM

Taken from spamhause.org:

Spammers contend:
"Blocking spam is illegal!"

Court Answer:
"Nothing in the Constitution compels us to listen to or view any unwanted communication, whatever its merit. We categorically reject the argument that a vendor has a right under the Constitution or otherwise to send unwanted material into the home of another. If this prohibition operates to impede the flow of even valid ideas, the answer is that no one has a right to press even 'good' ideas on an unwilling recipient. The asserted right of a mailer, we repeat, stops at the outer boundary of every person's domain." - Chief Justice Berger, U.S. Supreme Court

Now, the part that says "We categorically reject the argument that a vendor has a right under the Constitution or OTHERWISE to send unwanted material into the home of another."

Well now they have a right under FEDERAL LAW. I'm not saying anything could be done for sure, maybe it's written in the law that spammers have no recourse. If not, it will be interesting over the next year or so for sure.

webair · 12-16-2003, 11:18 AM

interesting...my questions is how will they implement the scrub (opt-out) list? will they give it out so people can clean their lists with it

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
were can one find the exact laws of what can and cant be done? is it out on the net

If you're ready to sit down and read go to http://www.spamlaws.com You'll see under Federal laws CAN-SPAM act or something similar. It gives you the entire law in exact wording.

stocktrader23 · 12-16-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by webair
interesting...my questions is how will they implement the scrub (opt-out) list? will they give it out so people can clean their lists with it

As of right now you only have to operate your own opt out list, so each business has to be opted out of seperately. They are looking into a national do not spam list but it's not part of the deal right now.

Pad · 12-16-2003, 11:21 AM

Go bushy
it's my spam day
we gon blast mails like it's my spam day
we gon sip diet sprite like its my spam day
and you know fuck tha t-o-s it's not your filter day

YOU CAN FIND ME IN THE CHATS
ENHANCORIZING STATS
LOOK FAT
I GOT THE PR0N IF YOU REALLY INTO THAT
IM INTO FATTY SKANKS
I AINT INTO SKINNY BROADS
SO COME LOAD UP MY PROGS
IF YOU INTO TRADING POGS

my spam got me the dough i spend all all my fancy things my food my comp my car my cigarettes look homie i done came up and i ain't 1337

Theo · 12-16-2003, 11:22 AM

forget terms like solid and pro mailers. The cost of proxy mailing will end up higher than direct mailing. Everyone will be considered legit within a couple of months.

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stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Taken from spamhause.org: Spammers contend: "Blocking spam is illegal!" Court Answer: "Nothing in the Constitution compels us to listen to or view any unwanted communication, whatever its merit. We categorically reject the argument that a vendor has a right under the Constitution or otherwise to send unwanted material into the home of another. If this prohibition operates to impede the flow of even valid ideas, the answer is that no one has a right to press even 'good' ideas on an unwilling recipient. The asserted right of a mailer, we repeat, stops at the outer boundary of every person's domain." - Chief Justice Berger, U.S. Supreme Court Now, the part that says "We categorically reject the argument that a vendor has a right under the Constitution or OTHERWISE to send unwanted material into the home of another." Well now they have a right under FEDERAL LAW. I'm not saying anything could be done for sure, maybe it's written in the law that spammers have no recourse. If not, it will be interesting over the next year or so for sure. __________________ Hands Free Adult - Join Once, Earn For Life "I try to make a habit of bouncing my eyes up to the face of a beautiful woman, and often repeat “not mine” in my head or even verbally. She’s not mine. God has her set aside. She’s not mine. She’s His little girl, and she needs me to fight for her by keeping my eyes where they should be."

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