Busty-Amateurs shuts off program - GoFuckYourself.com

Lensman · 07-02-2001, 01:07 PM

You guys should have used AP's partner program instead:

Please be advised that in accordance with Section 3.b. of our Webmaster Terms and Conditions (?Webmaster Terms?), we are terminating the Busty-Amateurs Partnership Program effective 2001-07-02. Please be assured that all webmasters will be paid the referral fees they have earned in accordance with the Webmaster Terms prior to the date of this termination. We anticipate being ready to announce our new plans in approximately 30 to 45 days. Until our announcement, our plans will remain confidential.

We very much appreciate each and every one of our partners and thank you for your support.

Sincerely

Busty-Amateurs.com

ldinternet · 07-02-2001, 01:26 PM

Fuck, that's tough. Wonder what's happening over there? I doubt that they're shutting down, BA is a huuuuuuuuuge site.

On the other end of things, last month was tough. $40 per signup means shit if nobody is whipping out there credit card. The only thing that saved my ass was recurrings, and still I was skimming low. I'd have been down in the hole if I didn't diversify my work by promoting a few recurring programs.

Ladies and gentlemen out there - I can't stress it enough - GET WITH SOME GOOD RECURRING SPONSORS! Recurring is where the big bucks are, trust me. Amateur Pages can only afford to pay 6c per click for 700 clicks if they can recur that member and make more money out of him than they payed the webmaster. CyberErotica, RJB Telcom... it's all through recurring. $40 up front is nice, but when you've backed your ass up with a recurring proggie, there isn't as much to worry about because the money just keeps rolling in, even if you get lazy.

Get with Amateur Pages partnership, Porn Mega Bucks, Payserve, whatever. Just make sure it's a good site. Then all you've got to do is send the traffic.

boneprone · 07-02-2001, 01:33 PM

Uhhhhh, So would it be ok now for me to go in and steal all their content?

jsmaster · 07-02-2001, 01:43 PM

Got to love the amount of notice they gave. Oh well Just more ad space for Lens

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Lensman · 07-02-2001, 02:01 PM

So if you have recurs with them, you lose the $$ from them even though they are still members??

Lensman · 07-02-2001, 02:26 PM

http://www.busty-amateurs.com doesn't even have a join page anymore.

Put a fork in it, they're done.

cygnet74 · 07-02-2001, 02:46 PM

What i liked about Busty-Amateurs was the full access to content. Do any other partnership programs offer this? What about AP's?

chrismac · 07-02-2001, 03:28 PM

Eek! Oh well, they were a fine site, and will be missed...

Chris

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MrBrian · 07-02-2001, 04:21 PM

busty will be keeping all the rebills from this point on. i think its a majorly bad move not to pay webmasters unless they just completely shut down the site.

ronnie · 07-02-2001, 04:36 PM

For a busty reseller, I'm pissed. Pissed that the fact that they can't e-mail their webmasters and let them know, maybe even ahead of time? Talk about not having any balls! If a friend would'nt have told me about this thread, I still would'nt have know! All my traffic headed for bustys is going to waste! And there goes all my recurring!

From reading the message on their webmaster page, it sounds like they might be re-grouping. Well, I for one will NOT do business with them, when they pull this kinda crap! It's crap to me that they could'nt act like business people and let their resellers know what's going on. Oh gee, they would probably lose sales, so let's piss every one off rather than do the "right" thing.

Well, time to change some links!

ronnie

BrettJ · 07-02-2001, 05:04 PM

I'm with chris. It's kind of sad to see a long standing company fold.

But it opens up the marketplace for the fresh blood.

ronnie hit me up on icq - 9123759

~Brett

Toolz · 07-02-2001, 05:24 PM

Guess this helps underscore the take the money in the first place and don't worry about your recurring program being around, no matter HOW long standing they have been in business. Lens excluded though as I have to assume he'd be one of the few that would continue to pay his webmasters. As for the rest of the people promoting BA guess they're SOL.

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ronnie · 07-02-2001, 07:30 PM

Thats true toolz. But I've made alot more with recurring, less traffic , than any per sign-up. I keep pushing more and more recurring everyday. The stuff with busty's is a chance we take with all sponsors. This is'nt the first time it's happen to me.

I'm sure not knocking the program, it was one of my best converting and the retention was great. I'm just pissed they don't have the guts to let webmaster know whats up instead of this waiting till the last minute. Sure not the kind of people I'd ever trust again. I sure hope they don't plan on starting back up or starting something new. I sure would'nt take a chance on them again. Hope no one else is dumb enough to do it either.

Just my thoughts

ronnie

[Labret] · 07-02-2001, 08:56 PM

The notice on the webmaster page alludes to them doing something else. Did anyone bother to read it?

2001-07-02

TO OUR WEBMASTERS:

Please be advised that in accordance with Section 3.b. of our Webmaster Terms and Conditions (?Webmaster Terms?), we are terminating the Busty-Amateurs Partnership Program effective 2001-07-02. Please be assured that all webmasters will be paid the referral fees they have earned in accordance with the Webmaster Terms prior to the date of this termination. We anticipate being ready to announce our new plans in approximately 30 to 45 days. Until our announcement, our plans will remain confidential.

We very much appreciate each and every one of our partners and thank you for your support.

Sincerely,

Busty-Amateurs.com

TheFLY · 07-03-2001, 12:26 AM

yeah think about it they can double their income every month by not paying any of the recurring ad money to partners... they are not fucking stupid.

they keep all that money to themselves now! ehehe... well they never converted for me anyway so I never used them.

none of this recurring money is guaranteeed... well life isn't guaranteed... I hope I get my AP referral money while I'm in the fucking grave... got to keep my worms fed.

UnseenWorld · 07-03-2001, 12:57 AM

I haven't read their terms (and I assume that now I couldn't if I tried), but is it a legal fact that they can simply terminate their partnership program and keep recurring income without sharing it as per their original terms?

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MrBrian · 07-03-2001, 05:45 PM

heard from the source that BA will be closed down permently. no rebills, no more signups...

so, sorry about thinking they would keep all the rebills.

Quoth the Raven · 07-07-2001, 04:22 PM

Oz has done it again. http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/pressreleases/

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Wizzo · 07-07-2001, 04:33 PM

Oz has bought the webmaster list of BA, so all can get truecash spammed....what a saint

Backov · 07-07-2001, 04:55 PM

I just got into a big pissing match (what a surprise, Backov in a pissing match? I never) with him about this over on pornresource.com's message board. ;>

Cheers,
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Quoth the Raven · 07-07-2001, 06:08 PM

And a good pissing match it was.

As long as Oz doesn't pull the same crap as he does with his other TrueCash sites (i.e. placing "free e-mail" on the tour page and pop-ups to other sponsors we don't get credited for), the man they call Raven may well signup to the new BA.

Quote:

Originally posted by Backov:
I just got into a big pissing match (what a surprise, Backov in a pissing match? I never) with him about this over on pornresource.com's message board. ;>

Cheers,
Backov

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Lensman · 07-07-2001, 07:00 PM

They bought the mailing list, I passed on it. That is all. I like how they make it seem like more than that.

Backov · 07-07-2001, 09:29 PM

That was what my little pissing match with him was all about - I'll give ya credit Lens, you've never tried to spin us webmasters with such bullshit, as far as I can recall.. I'll have to start promoting your program some day. ;>

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stevecore · 12-15-2003, 04:48 AM

least i got a cool tshirt from them!

psyko514 · 12-15-2003, 04:49 AM

man, that site rocked.

07-02-2001, 01:07 PM	#1
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Busty-Amateurs shuts off program You guys should have used AP's partner program instead: Please be advised that in accordance with Section 3.b. of our Webmaster Terms and Conditions (?Webmaster Terms?), we are terminating the Busty-Amateurs Partnership Program effective 2001-07-02. Please be assured that all webmasters will be paid the referral fees they have earned in accordance with the Webmaster Terms prior to the date of this termination. We anticipate being ready to announce our new plans in approximately 30 to 45 days. Until our announcement, our plans will remain confidential. We very much appreciate each and every one of our partners and thank you for your support. Sincerely Busty-Amateurs.com

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07-02-2001, 01:26 PM	#2
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	Fuck, that's tough. Wonder what's happening over there? I doubt that they're shutting down, BA is a huuuuuuuuuge site. On the other end of things, last month was tough. $40 per signup means shit if nobody is whipping out there credit card. The only thing that saved my ass was recurrings, and still I was skimming low. I'd have been down in the hole if I didn't diversify my work by promoting a few recurring programs. Ladies and gentlemen out there - I can't stress it enough - GET WITH SOME GOOD RECURRING SPONSORS! Recurring is where the big bucks are, trust me. Amateur Pages can only afford to pay 6c per click for 700 clicks if they can recur that member and make more money out of him than they payed the webmaster. CyberErotica, RJB Telcom... it's all through recurring. $40 up front is nice, but when you've backed your ass up with a recurring proggie, there isn't as much to worry about because the money just keeps rolling in, even if you get lazy. Get with Amateur Pages partnership, Porn Mega Bucks, Payserve, whatever. Just make sure it's a good site. Then all you've got to do is send the traffic.

07-02-2001, 01:33 PM	#3
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Uhhhhh, So would it be ok now for me to go in and steal all their content?

07-02-2001, 01:43 PM	#4
jsmaster Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Columbus,OH Posts: 30	Got to love the amount of notice they gave. Oh well Just more ad space for Lens ------------------ Nudehost.com Free hosting with FTP

07-02-2001, 02:01 PM	#5
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	So if you have recurs with them, you lose the $$ from them even though they are still members??

07-02-2001, 02:26 PM	#6
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	http://www.busty-amateurs.com doesn't even have a join page anymore. Put a fork in it, they're done.

07-02-2001, 02:46 PM	#7
cygnet74 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 41	What i liked about Busty-Amateurs was the full access to content. Do any other partnership programs offer this? What about AP's?

07-02-2001, 03:28 PM	#8
chrismac Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 22	Eek! Oh well, they were a fine site, and will be missed... Chris ------------------ MoneyTree dialers - 75¢/minute! ICQ: 61376226

07-02-2001, 04:21 PM	#9
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	busty will be keeping all the rebills from this point on. i think its a majorly bad move not to pay webmasters unless they just completely shut down the site.

07-02-2001, 04:36 PM	#10
ronnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central IL Posts: 19	For a busty reseller, I'm pissed. Pissed that the fact that they can't e-mail their webmasters and let them know, maybe even ahead of time? Talk about not having any balls! If a friend would'nt have told me about this thread, I still would'nt have know! All my traffic headed for bustys is going to waste! And there goes all my recurring! From reading the message on their webmaster page, it sounds like they might be re-grouping. Well, I for one will NOT do business with them, when they pull this kinda crap! It's crap to me that they could'nt act like business people and let their resellers know what's going on. Oh gee, they would probably lose sales, so let's piss every one off rather than do the "right" thing. Well, time to change some links! ronnie

07-02-2001, 05:04 PM	#11
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	I'm with chris. It's kind of sad to see a long standing company fold. But it opens up the marketplace for the fresh blood. ronnie hit me up on icq - 9123759 ~Brett

07-02-2001, 05:24 PM	#12
Toolz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Podunk Posts: 690	Guess this helps underscore the take the money in the first place and don't worry about your recurring program being around, no matter HOW long standing they have been in business. Lens excluded though as I have to assume he'd be one of the few that would continue to pay his webmasters. As for the rest of the people promoting BA guess they're SOL. ------------------ Audited Sponsor.com $35 Signup/$35 Webmaster Referrals/Free Content

07-02-2001, 07:30 PM	#13
ronnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central IL Posts: 19	Thats true toolz. But I've made alot more with recurring, less traffic , than any per sign-up. I keep pushing more and more recurring everyday. The stuff with busty's is a chance we take with all sponsors. This is'nt the first time it's happen to me. I'm sure not knocking the program, it was one of my best converting and the retention was great. I'm just pissed they don't have the guts to let webmaster know whats up instead of this waiting till the last minute. Sure not the kind of people I'd ever trust again. I sure hope they don't plan on starting back up or starting something new. I sure would'nt take a chance on them again. Hope no one else is dumb enough to do it either. Just my thoughts ronnie

07-02-2001, 08:56 PM	#14
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	The notice on the webmaster page alludes to them doing something else. Did anyone bother to read it? 2001-07-02 TO OUR WEBMASTERS: Please be advised that in accordance with Section 3.b. of our Webmaster Terms and Conditions (?Webmaster Terms?), we are terminating the Busty-Amateurs Partnership Program effective 2001-07-02. Please be assured that all webmasters will be paid the referral fees they have earned in accordance with the Webmaster Terms prior to the date of this termination. We anticipate being ready to announce our new plans in approximately 30 to 45 days. Until our announcement, our plans will remain confidential. We very much appreciate each and every one of our partners and thank you for your support. Sincerely, Busty-Amateurs.com

07-03-2001, 12:26 AM	#15
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	yeah think about it they can double their income every month by not paying any of the recurring ad money to partners... they are not fucking stupid. they keep all that money to themselves now! ehehe... well they never converted for me anyway so I never used them. none of this recurring money is guaranteeed... well life isn't guaranteed... I hope I get my AP referral money while I'm in the fucking grave... got to keep my worms fed.

07-03-2001, 12:57 AM	#16
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I haven't read their terms (and I assume that now I couldn't if I tried), but is it a legal fact that they can simply terminate their partnership program and keep recurring income without sharing it as per their original terms? ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World

07-03-2001, 05:45 PM	#17
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	heard from the source that BA will be closed down permently. no rebills, no more signups... so, sorry about thinking they would keep all the rebills.

07-07-2001, 04:22 PM	#18
Quoth the Raven Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The State of Mind Posts: 617	Oz has done it again. http://www.theadultwebmaster.com/pressreleases/ ------------------ Quoth the Raven, nevermore. Nation.

07-07-2001, 04:33 PM	#19
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Oz has bought the webmaster list of BA, so all can get truecash spammed....what a saint

07-07-2001, 04:55 PM	#20
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	I just got into a big pissing match (what a surprise, Backov in a pissing match? I never) with him about this over on pornresource.com's message board. ;> Cheers, Backov ------------------ AVSBlitz - Build AVS Sites Faster and Better

07-07-2001, 07:00 PM	#22
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	They bought the mailing list, I passed on it. That is all. I like how they make it seem like more than that.

07-07-2001, 09:29 PM	#23
Backov Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cat Detector Van Posts: 1,600	That was what my little pissing match with him was all about - I'll give ya credit Lens, you've never tried to spin us webmasters with such bullshit, as far as I can recall.. I'll have to start promoting your program some day. ;> Cheers, Backov ------------------ AVSBlitz - Build AVS Sites Faster and Better

12-15-2003, 04:48 AM	#24
stevecore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,130	least i got a cool tshirt from them!