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Old 12-09-2003, 10:54 PM   #1
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CumSensei´s guide to make it in gallery building.

MAKING IT IN GALLERY BUILDING:
I am no expert in gallery making but I do make a good profit from it and I think I got some good rules to give you.

First let me tell you this:
I make galleries to make money so I make dont give a fuck about if I follow every rule there is. If a tgp dont wanna list me because I got 4 links to sponsors instead of just 2 so fuck him. And if they do list me then im happy.

Making galleries is not like alot of people think and scream about to give away free content, its to make a good solid ad for the paysite you are promoting by giving examples of what they will find there.

I hear alot of people saying. There is no way to make money out of gallery posting anymore, and I belived them untill a few months ago when I decided to take action and try this shit out.

And all I can say is FUCK EM! There are shitloads of money to make from gallery makings if you know how to build them.

I wont tell you how to build your templates but I will in this chapter give you guidelines.

1. PAID HOST OR FREE HOST?
I have tried all the freehosts thats out there.
And I never got added to the bigger tgps.
And I never made any money from it.
I got maby 2000 hits a day to my galleries back then
And the free host steals you top spot banner place and lots of them redirect your traffic and shit. SO FORGET ABOUT FREEHOSTS!

So when I a few months ago started to build galleries in paid host my traffic went straight up and I today got about 50.000 daily visitors into all my galleries.

Get a paid host but be sure to not pay more then 0.50$-1$ per gig at the most and if you can get it cheaper its even better.
Gallery making do take alot of band width and it will cost you.
The best thing is to try and make out a deal with your server provider. Maby buy 200-300gigs upfront and get a better price.

So use the paid host. I use eliteplanet.com and I never had any downtime sofar..and he can take the traffic that thehun.net send you. But there are alot of hosts out there so ask around.

2. SPONSORS?
I use a paid by signup sponsor on my galleries.
I build galleries to make a fast buck so I dont use recurring.
Also about what sponsr to use check rule number 3 in TGP building.

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=206069

3. CONTENT?
Some people go around and steal pictures from ftps and free sites. This will not get your gallery posted. There are places to buy content and you can use sponsor content. DONT USE OLD PICTURES!
The benefit of using sponsor content is that its free. The bad part is that many people use it so not every tgp will list you because of it.

The benefit about using bought content is that you may be the first to use it and the bad part is that it might cost you alot of money.

Its up to you to decide what you wanna do. But my idea would be to start off using sponsor content and then move on to buying your own.

4. THUMBS
This is important!
The thumbs is the first impression the tgp reviewer will see.
They have to be clear and nice. But not bigger then 4K in size.
Blurry thumbs will get your ass declined, THIS IS FACT!
Use a bold line around your galleries. This makes a impression that the thumbs are clearer, make it black.

I handmake all my thumbs using photoshop. But there are others scripts out there that make thumbs to.

Also remember to not make the fullsize pictures to small. 25-40K is normal.

5. DESIGN
I personally build galleries that I think will convert and my ideas is to not give away free content just because the damn tgps shall make more bookmarkers. I do this to make money and if my deign require 4 sponsor links so be it. If you do it this way your not gonna get posted all over the place but the ones that post you are gonna make you some good money.

I use the rule, 1 text link per 5 pictures. So 15 pictures makes 3 textlinks.

That have worked for me.

Try to make your thumbs the same size. This makes the best impression on the surfer.

IMPORTANT! Do not post your gallery to tgp´s that might have rules that you only can have 2 sponsor links if you have 4 sponsor links. Thats not respecting them and it might get you banned.

6. HOW TO MAKE CLICKS TO MY SPONSOR?
Use text links!
I never use banners. Only text links. And remember that of 10000 visitors maby 100-200 clicks the links.
There might be more but dont count on it.

7. HOW DO I SUBMIT?
Well there are lots of different ideas about this.
Some people handsubmit all there galleries.
I hand submit to maby 40-50 tgps and I got alot of smaller ones I use a auto submit program to submit to.

I use a auto submit program and that made me alot of money.
There are alot of different ones out there but I use
www.adultwebmastersoftware.com
I submit one gallery per day by using this and it made me some good money.

8. I DONT GET LISTED?
It takes time to build up a rep among the tgps.
Submit one gallery every day from the same domain using the same name and the same email and if you do good galleries and dont cheat on them they will start posting your galleries after a while most of the time.

You might also use the wrong niche.
For example a tgp might get 1000 teen galleries per day. How big is the chanse for your gallery to get posted then?

But he might only get 10 pantyhose galleries.
You do the thinking

Well this is some ideas on how to make it.
There are alot of others but these works for me and I bet they will work for you to.

The biggest misstake people make is to think it dosent take any hard work making it in this bizz. They cant be more wrong.
This is a job like any other and it does take alot of work.

If you got any questions you are welcome to contact me at [email protected]
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And I try to help you out if I can.

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Old 12-09-2003, 10:56 PM   #2
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Talk about having way tooo much fucking time on ones hands but great post none the less
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:01 PM   #3
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too much info!?!?!?!!!?!
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:40 PM   #4
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CumSensei's a good guy with good advice. It wouldn't hurt to pay attention if your latest get rich quick idea/sponsor doesn't pan out.

One of the few guys I know from years ago who's still around and kicking. He must be doing something right.



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Old 12-09-2003, 11:48 PM   #5
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nice post mate, very good info. the link to that software doesnt work thou?
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Old 12-09-2003, 11:52 PM   #6
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Good post .
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:02 AM   #7
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It's great to see someone posting this kind of material on GFY.



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Old 12-10-2003, 12:03 AM   #8
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Good post lots of usefull stuff
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:21 AM   #9
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not thread jacking, but heres an addition to your post.

http://www.lil2rich4u2.com/articles/submitting.html

BTW nice post ...
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:24 AM   #10
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Nice of you to go out of your way and give out this much info.


text is key, writing a good pitch can make a difference


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Old 12-10-2003, 12:29 AM   #11
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can i hav a working link for that software?
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:46 AM   #12
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My Advice...

Text is more important than ad graphics

CHOOSE your content carefully -- gone are the days of surfers clicking on anything that has 2 tits a hole (or a penis for those playing the TS/Shemale niche).

Finally, choose a gallery designer that has gallery conversions almost down to a SCIENCE -- I suggest http://www.arousaldesign.com
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:16 PM   #13
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I am not sure why the link to the software dont work.

But other then that about posting usefull pusts here on GFY I hope that it´s this thing that lensman wanna try and get with this contest.

I have posted this kind of stuff on alot of other boards before but never feelt like it was worth it here on GFY because of the tone here.

But now it feels like the tone is changing and I for one feel like my skills and the things I learn trough all these years might come in handy.

I wish that these boards where around when I started this game but sorry to say the only way to learn back then what by making misstakes and correct them

I am happy you guys like the stuff I post and I will try and come up with some other posts that might change your way of thinking.

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Old 12-10-2003, 12:22 PM   #14
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Old 12-10-2003, 12:42 PM   #16
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Thanks.
I am now writing a tutorial on what to look for in a sponsor

I hope you will like that to.

Will be ready tonight.

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Hey lil2rich

for your page. I also like the article that you have there.
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Sensei... GREAT POST!!! Tons of condensed info on a single post!

Lens, give the guy a camera!!!

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So which is it?

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First let me tell you this:
I make galleries to make money so I make dont give a fuck about if I follow every rule there is. If a tgp dont wanna list me because I got 4 links to sponsors instead of just 2 so fuck him. And if they do list me then im happy.
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IMPORTANT! Do not post your gallery to tgp´s that might have rules that you only can have 2 sponsor links if you have 4 sponsor links. Thats not respecting them and it might get you banned.
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Well its like this.

I usally dont post to tgps that have the only 2 sponsor links rule.

But some tgps that have that rule still allow more links then they say in their submit page.

After you gain some trust.


But it´s not a good idea as a newbie in gallery posting to start posting galleries thats stretching the rules.

See now what I mean? I am sorry if it looked confusing
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Old 12-10-2003, 03:48 PM   #22
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Hey lil2rich

for your page. I also like the article that you have there.
thanks bro, dont wanna take away from his post at all, he has way more info than i do, and most likely more experience. I just wanted to add an additional opinion.
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Well I dont mind

I just want some serious threads going here.

SO your input and ideas are more then welcome.
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Old 12-10-2003, 10:27 PM   #24
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I am happy you guys like the stuff I post and I will try and come up with some other posts that might change your way of thinking.
Nice posts.

Now I just need to go over to Matrix and buy some pics.

I haven't tried making galleries but now I may just have to give it a shot. Any suggestions on content providers?
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Great post Sensei. You're a smart guy with some nice traffic. All guys who are wondering how to make money submitting galleries...Read this and memorize it!
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Nice Post Cumsensie

Most of the info you've posted you've learned from http://www.vnwr.com

A quick note guys! Text is what catches the surfers imagination most! Think of some juicy text when building galleries - do not put just click HERE for more porn etc!!

Use some thing like Click HERE to see clit licking lesbos lick each other out!!

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Nice Post Cumsensie

Most of the info you've posted you've learned from http://www.vnwr.com

A quick note guys! Text is what catches the surfers imagination most! Think of some juicy text when building galleries - do not put just click HERE for more porn etc!!

Use some thing like Click HERE to see clit licking lesbos lick each other out!!

Let your imagination flow through your text!!!
Well acctually I did not learn most of the stuff from vnwr rad.

But after a few years you come to the same solutions as everybody most of the time

And hopfully I speeded up the time for the newbies here ;)

ANother article is on the way.
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Nice Post Cumsensie

Most of the info you've posted you've learned from http://www.vnwr.com

A quick note guys! Text is what catches the surfers imagination most! Think of some juicy text when building galleries - do not put just click HERE for more porn etc!!

Use some thing like Click HERE to see clit licking lesbos lick each other out!!

Let your imagination flow through your text!!!
Let me reiterate how important your text is, both in your galleries and sites! My mother is a copywriter (a person that writes copy for products) and I have had her consult me on some of my stuff, and I thought it was good. Come to find out it was pretty weak.. There can't be enough said about knowing your target audience and learning how to effectively communicate to them.
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Nice Post Cumsensie

Most of the info you've posted you've learned from http://www.vnwr.com
Nice try, but CumSensei has been around monger than that board. Pretty sure I was dealing with him before Voltar ran the Netpond Newbie Help board, too.
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Hey CumSensei, you might want to consider submitting that article to YNot. I'd be good exposure if they list you, and I've seen some far inferier articles there, that are realistically just advertisements. Just a thought.
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Hmm I just might.
I never read there.

Might wait to post there untill my paysite is online
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Hmm I just might.
I never read there.

Might wait to post there untill my paysite is online
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this ynot
What is it really?

I mean do alot of people read that site or?

I never been there I think.
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if i was hating I'd call him an idiot - didn't do that did i?
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Old 12-11-2003, 04:35 PM   #43
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this ynot
What is it really?

I mean do alot of people read that site or?

I never been there I think.
Yeah, they're worthwhile. They've been around for a long time, and have decent traffic. I've never tried to publish an article before, but it certainly can't hurt...
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Old 12-11-2003, 04:45 PM   #44
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I've known for years now that the Cum Sensei was THE MAN!!
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Old 12-11-2003, 05:41 PM   #45
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Great article cumsensei
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Old 12-11-2003, 10:52 PM   #46
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I've known for years now that the Cum Sensei was THE MAN!!
Hehe lorsha you have been making some money on my traffic have you not?

And maby even from using my advice to you?

Hope ya have a great weekend girl.
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Old 12-12-2003, 05:48 PM   #47
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If you want to get published in YNOT News send your article to me at editor at ynotnews dot com... I'd be happy to look it over and consider publishing.
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Old 12-12-2003, 06:20 PM   #48
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Finally, someone said it--STOLEN CONTENT has a way of lowering your chances of getting posted. If it's been seen before, it won't get posted!
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Old 12-13-2003, 02:34 AM   #49
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Finally, someone said it--STOLEN CONTENT has a way of lowering your chances of getting posted. If it's been seen before, it won't get posted!
You can´t mean I am the first one telling people this?

That stolen content is not gonna get ya listed?



LAJ I will do that when I am ready.

Be happy to get listed over there.

WIll have a few more posts to get posted to.

THanks.

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