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Old 12-12-2003, 09:29 PM   #1
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Here is my take on CC processors!

IBILL you fuckin rule
CCBill you fuckin cant even track sales anymore for affiliates... Its very sad because you guys have been good in the past.... I dont know why webmasters are still using you guys. Get yourselves new programmers because they dont know shit....

I will be taking down all my CCbill links slowly until you guys get your freakin act together!!!!

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Old 12-12-2003, 09:39 PM   #2
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Old 12-12-2003, 09:52 PM   #3
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At least ccbill doesnt have payment issues.
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Old 12-12-2003, 09:57 PM   #4
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At least ccbill doesnt have payment issues.
I've never missed out on a Ibill payment knock on wood. Same goes for CCBill, but CCBill sales have been really down this week, could just be my traffic though.
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Old 12-12-2003, 09:58 PM   #5
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what about Epoch ladies?
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Old 12-12-2003, 11:19 PM   #6
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what about Epoch ladies?
Same fuckin shit bro... Epoch is the fuckin same shit!!
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Old 12-12-2003, 11:21 PM   #7
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CCbill is rough the last few days...ton of denials.
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Old 12-12-2003, 11:27 PM   #8
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CCbill is rough the last few days...ton of denials.
They have been having problems not just for a few days, its been to fuckin long now.... We should all call them & tell them WTF!!!! and contact all the webmasters that are using CCbill or Epoch & letting them know of your unsatisfatory towards the CC processors & you feel that you are not getting the credit you are suppose to be all having. C'mon now I have 10 + sponsors with CCbill that I never seen a fuckin sale for so fuckin long... I have other sponsors that are using Ibill & other processors & I am seing sales... 1-500 on average!!!
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Old 12-13-2003, 04:46 PM   #9
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pornjudge, i would like to start a dialogue with you regarding your issues
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Old 12-13-2003, 04:54 PM   #10
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i agree completely with pornjudge. ccbill went to the hell in past few weeks,same traffic, same source, but SU ratio is 4x times worse then it used to be for few months.
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Old 12-13-2003, 04:57 PM   #11
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If I owned a program, I'd want to use CCBill for sure, great scrubbing means lower chargebacks (in theory), but as an affiliate, why would I want to throw my traffic into the wind only to have it scrubbed to hell and back? It's all about the bottom line.
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:06 PM   #12
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i wish ccbill showed denials for affiliates. ccbill is converting ok for me but i wonder if it could be better.
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:09 PM   #13
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i ran some global reports on denials and affiliate ratios and didn?t see anything unusual happening across the board. if anybody wants me to look at their specific account, email me their information

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Old 12-13-2003, 05:11 PM   #14
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How is Ibill doing lately? Haven't heard much about payment problems the last few months...
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:22 PM   #15
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Same fuckin shit bro... Epoch is the fuckin same shit!!
I agree with you 1000000% with CCbill, but I cant agree with you on your isues with Epoch. They have always been solid for me.

I am however seeing a slowdown this week, not just with Epoch but with everyone.
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:25 PM   #16
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How is Ibill doing lately? Haven't heard much about payment problems the last few months...
I haven't tried getting support from iBill, but I would assume that their support and email response is just as bad as it has been the past year.
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Old 12-13-2003, 05:29 PM   #17
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CCBill is fine, I'm not seeing any hi denial rates at all from them. All normal here.

Past few days sales are 25% below avg. I assume people probably XMAS shopping & getting ready to travel or something.

Sales fluctuate, always have always will. Wait till after Xmas, you will see a good boost!



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Old 12-13-2003, 08:45 PM   #18
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pornjudge, i would like to start a dialogue with you regarding your issues
Hi Corvett,

What is your email address? I will explain everything on it.

Thanks
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:47 PM   #19
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:57 PM   #20
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In my experience all the cc processors have their good and bad points, it just depends on which ones you're willing to live with.
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Old 12-13-2003, 08:58 PM   #21
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believe it or not: in the end there wil be only one.. IBILL
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Old 12-13-2003, 09:04 PM   #22
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believe it or not: in the end there wil be only one.. IBILL
As frustrated as I've been with iBill in the past, I still may need to agree...doh
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Old 12-13-2003, 11:36 PM   #23
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Ibill and Probilling will be the next to go down in flames.

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Old 12-13-2003, 11:38 PM   #24
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ccbill has the guts to step up and answer questions. that's a LOT more than some of the others in their game........
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:20 AM   #26
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:28 AM   #27
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IBILL you fuckin rule
CCBill you fuckin cant even track sales anymore for affiliates... Its very sad because you guys have been good in the past.... I dont know why webmasters are still using you guys. Get yourselves new programmers because they dont know shit....

I will be taking down all my CCbill links slowly until you guys get your freakin act together!!!!
I agree with you! these CCBILL People must be brain-washed when KimmyKim was there?

I used both for the same site and lost 30% from CCBILL.

And Ibill always payed all that was owed!

Only thing they suck at now is support!

Rebills-holdbacks-signups have been good! no complaints.
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:28 AM   #28
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This is just a *crazy* theory keep in mind. No real data to back it up unless we spoke to Visa themselves I suppose.

Since Christmas is here and the economy isn't doing the greatest, could it be that people are overspending on their cc's and thus the amount of denials? I know allot of people already broke just from Xmas shopping. However, if CCBILL/Epoch isn't seeing anything strange accross the board, that is weird as well. If denials are really higher, why isn't the processors just saying that, at least.
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:31 AM   #29
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Why that? Because they are public? What's your theory ... or is it just off the wall talk here.
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If denials are really higher, why isn't the processors just saying that, at least.
Because they are NOT higher as CCBill/Corvette posted quote: "i ran some global reports on denials and affiliate ratios and didn?t see anything unusual happening across the board."

I also ran some CCBill reports and found nothing unusual either. As I posted yesterday.

Today was another poor day for SU's. I tried to go out and get some basic necessities at the stores today and tonight and finally I said FuckIt and came back home. Based on my observations there are realistically about 20 - 30 times the normal amount of people (potential signups) eating out, shopping, and spending money $$$. I can only assume that it's like this everywhere.

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