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  • Massivecock
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    • Mar 2002
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    Another Massivecock Prediction comes true yet agian!! - The Draft is Coming USA!!!

    I told you all but you laughed at me!
    I said you Americans would be Drafted into the Army.

    All in the name of this fake war on terror!
    Which is actually a cover for the war on liberty.

    Read and weep!!

    -- This is no conspiracy theory -- it is now fact.

    Funny how every thing i say is a conspiracy theory that is totally nutz... but always seems to come true!!

    -- Read story below --

    Baruch College - City Universtiy Of New York
    12-12 03

    Our professors have joked about it. We joke about it with our friends. But it's just a joke, a relic from the "bad old days." The draft is gone forever, isn't it? Think again.

    Become acquainted with the Universal National Service Act of 2003, H.R. 163, introduced on January 7, 2003. This act, can be found on the website of the U.S. Congress at (http://www.congress.gov).

    This act as seen on the website states: Universal National Service Act of 2003

    Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.

    It declares that it is the obligation of every U.S. citizen, and every other person residing in the United States, between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a two-year period of national service, unless exempted, either as a member of an active or reserve component of the armed forces or in a civilian capacity that promotes national defense. Requires induction into national service by the President. Sets forth provisions governing: (1) induction deferments, postponements, and exemptions, including exemption of a conscientious objector from military service that includes combatant training; and (2) discharge following national service. Amends the Military Selective Service Act to authorize the military registration of females.

    Let's take a look at the contentions in this bill for a moment. First, we notice that it becomes the "obligation" of every person in the United States between 18 and 26 to serve two years in the military. "Obligation," means no choice in the matter. In addition, the Military Selective Service Act is amended to include women. It would appear that this also extends to non-citizens and immigrants, based on the phrase, "every other person residing in the United States."

    Exemptions do apply, however, like those considered "conscientious objectors." Conscientious objectors are not necessarily exempt from the draft. People who refuse to fight or fire a weapon are instead placed in non-combat stations of the military. Others who refuse to be in anything military-related for moral or ethical reasons, according the Selective Service System 2004 website (sss.gov/FSconsobj.htm), would be placed in "Alternate Service" areas specializing in "conservation, caring for the very young or very old, education or health care" for the same 24 month (two year) period.

    There is also the ominous phrase in the act that speaks of drafting for "furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These "other purposes" remain unclear, but are dictated by whatever the president deems appropriate. This is the same president who dodged the draft years ago. But I digress.

    H.R. 163 also teams with its sister bill, S. 89. These are two separate bills, written with the exact same lingo. The difference? One sits with the House, the other with the Senate.

    Forget your dreams of attending college, getting a job and then developing a career and starting a family. All of these plans can be severely disrupted, if not irrevocably changed by this mandatory government service.

    When will this happen? Both bills are on the floor of the Congress, waiting to be picked up and voted on. It is unlikely that we will see this before the election in 2004. No president seriously seeking reelection would dare try to impose a mandatory draft and military service. However, once Bush ends up with a second term, he is basically free to do anything he wants. Look for this in 2005, according to the Selective Service System fiscal year 2004 plan (sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html).

    President Bush is spending $28 million (see plans 1-3 at the above website for dollar amounts) to have the Selective Service system ready to report to him on March 31, 2005, and then to have the system ready for activation within 75 days. This would make the approximated date of the return of the draft June 15, 2005. All of these numbers can be figured out by reading the above link.

    Keep in mind, those of you who are ready to become conscientious objectors, that the world is a vastly different place than it was during the last draft. Applicants will be scrutinized more closely than ever. Those counting on student deferments to keep themselves out of the draft will be disappointed to find that that is no longer guaranteed. And don't even think about running to Canada. Entry into Canada is exceptionally difficult, with all visitors being heavily questioned before entry is allowed, combined with the agreement between Canada and the U.S. to expedite return of those wanted by the U.S.

    Ladies and gentlemen, this is no joke. This is not the mindless rambling of a paranoid conspiracy theorist. You think I'm f***ing with you? I am not f***ing with you.

    This sucks, I don't want to be forced to serve. Then speak up. Become informed. Tell your friends, who will fall into the age range of 18-26. Talk to your local congress people. Hold peaceful rallies. If you don't want this, take action to stop it now, before it is too late.
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  • candidpublishinginc
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    #2
    This will never pass.
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    • Pipecrew
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      #3
      Still Very Unlikely.

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      • PenisFace
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        #4
        I wonder if its going to be similar to vietnam, with people coming to Canada to avoid the draft...

        Alot of people don't agree with the war, so I can forsee alot of people taking off, or doing time instead of doing military service.
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        • Phoenix
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          #5
          Ill harbour anyone who can send more then 100 joins a week..
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          • gregtx
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            • Jan 2002
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            #6
            great.. then our own brothers and sisters will end up defending your Canadian ass so that you can continue to post shit like this to GFY....

            honestly.. if we need to have a draft we do... the Chinese, the Koreans. and the Middle east.. .yeah.. we have our hands full and the rest of the world sits idle and watches and pokes jokes...

            how quickly everyone forgest how quickly hitler took over most of europe before the US came in and helped bail everyones asses out.. guess you are right Rene.. we should have let the Iraqis take over the middle east and its peaceful countries...

            there is no right answer.. if we wouldn't have done anything.. .then we as American's would be critisized for sitting by and living high on the hog... damned if we do damned if we don't...
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            • Phoenix
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              • Nov 2002
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              #7
              all we have left is poking jokes anymore


              i think most people feel a sort of helpless dread.

              i would hate to see young americans sent off to war.

              these are troubled waters we are all swimming in
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              • DWB
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                • Jul 2003
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                #8
                For once I'm glad I'm a little older....

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                • Massivecock
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by gregtx
                  great.. then our own brothers and sisters will end up defending your Canadian ass so that you can continue to post shit like this to GFY....

                  honestly.. if we need to have a draft we do... the Chinese, the Koreans. and the Middle east.. .yeah.. we have our hands full and the rest of the world sits idle and watches and pokes jokes...

                  how quickly everyone forgest how quickly hitler took over most of europe before the US came in and helped bail everyones asses out.. guess you are right Rene.. we should have let the Iraqis take over the middle east and its peaceful countries...

                  there is no right answer.. if we wouldn't have done anything.. .then we as American's would be critisized for sitting by and living high on the hog... damned if we do damned if we don't...

                  Defending Canada from what?
                  Canada Leaders are not the ones who have invaded over 24 countries for no reason other than world domination!

                  We havent done shit to anyone that would make anyone want to invade us.

                  People will invade Canada to harvest our beaver pelts. Elk and Caribou. They will invade cause they like our beer and weed!
                  LOL!

                  Besides Im just warning you guys.
                  Because i am concerned for you all.

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                  • gregtx
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                    #10
                    Rene don't kid yourself... if the US didn't boarder you .. would would be speaking an Asian or French Language...
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                    • Interlude
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                      #11
                      Do you have any idea how many stupid fucking bills come before Congress each year? This has about the same chance of passing as you your GED.

                      Even if it did, though, I guess we'd just be more like Europe.

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                      • directfiesta
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gregtx
                        Rene don't kid yourself... if the US didn't boarder you .. would would be speaking an Asian or French Language...
                        Idiot! LOL
                        PS: just realized that could be taken as english word... so:

                        Enculé !
                        Last edited by directfiesta; 12-11-2003, 07:08 PM.
                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                        • Massivecock
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by gregtx
                          Rene don't kid yourself... if the US didn't boarder you .. would would be speaking an Asian or French Language...
                          We'll french was my first Language.

                          We border ourselves
                          Last time i went through immigration It was Canadian Customs there. Not American.

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                          • Dusen
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                            • Aug 2002
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by gregtx
                            how quickly everyone forgest how quickly hitler took over most of europe before the US came in and helped bail everyones asses out.. guess you are right Rene.. we should have let the Iraqis take over the middle east and its peaceful countries...
                            Give me a break.

                            Agreed that the USA provided a WONDERFUL supply line, and without the US supplies, the war would have gone on forever.

                            As well, the troops/armor/bodies themselves helped out tremendously in Europe/Africa.

                            And, Japan was definately a HUGE American push.

                            The United States was not the HERO or the "White Knight" of battle in WWII. We were involved just the same as many other countries, and it was DEFINATELY a collective victory in Europe.

                            The war would have been lost without the USA's involvement,
                            The war would have also been lost without British involvement.
                            The war would have also been lost without Russian involvement.
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                            • gregtx
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                              #15
                              quote:

                              " and helped bail out"...

                              keep up
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                              • gregtx
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Massivecock


                                We'll french was my first Language.

                                We border ourselves
                                Last time i went through immigration It was Canadian Customs there. Not American.

                                dunno why it bothers you so much.. how would this draft affect you anyway?

                                what is so bad about having to serve to protect/defend the country we live in??? most Euro's have to serve two years regardless...

                                at leasat we dont' tax ipods 20%!!!
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                                • Gemini
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                                  #17
                                  Hopefully they build the prisons up there as well... they'll be arresting an awful lot of 18-26 yr olds thinking its 1970 again.
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                                  • funkmaster
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
                                    This will never pass.
                                    ... and if yes, some die hard americans can finaly prove that they really would die for their country ... I kinda like that.

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                                    • cluck
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                                      • Dec 2002
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                                      #19
                                      If that were to happen, and I got drafted, I wouldn't have a problem killing those trying to force me into the service.

                                      I know people who during vietnam broke into a recruiters office where the documents on all the people in the area who got drafted were and blew up a bunch of filing cabinets
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                                      • Why
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                                        • Mar 2003
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                                        #20
                                        no offense to the person who started this thread but are you on fucking crack man? you should lay off the drugs. you come up with a lot of conspiracy theories and post them like they are real.

                                        many countries across the globe require ALL citizens to participate in thier military, i know switzerland and brazil do for starters.

                                        the US has not invaded 24 countries. maybe 2, iraq, and afghanistan, where are the other 22?

                                        i honestly believe that standard military service would do great things for this country. it would start making kids more ready for the real world. after growing up in liberal pansy homes that think we should turn the other cheek. i know way to many fuckers that are 25 still living with mom because they were never readied for the real world. the military does a lot of good aside form killing.

                                        do i think invading other countries was right? FUCK NO! but i dont think we should bend over either. i think we should spend time fixing our own internal problems before we even attempt to fix anyone elses. had we spent that 80billion or whatever went into iraq and given it back to the tax payers to stimulate the economy it would have been a lot better spent. of maybe built a few new schools or helped people that cant afford college go.

                                        but i have to agree with brad, most people do feel an overwhelming sense of dread without any real sense of what to do about it. talking to your congressman and protesting aint going to do shit anymore. its all about the money, and if bush hasnt proven that i dunno what the fuck will.

                                        and for you anti-american pieces of shit in canada. realize that your un protected asses would have been owned many years ago by russia or chine if it werent for america being your neighbor, regardless of whether you go around starting fights. many agressive countries attack easy targets and canada is certainly one of those.

                                        and for those in other countries that dont like america, quite being a bunch of jealous pussies. america is still the greatest country in the world. we are strong and we would own any other country in the world if it were a one-on-one kind of thing. sure we might have some fucked up shit going on, but if you took the time to look into what your own government does youd realize you have just as much stupid shit going on at home. your contries are the size of states. we have a lot more people to make happy and they arent always going to agree.

                                        with that said. i dont like bush, i disagree with 98% of everything he has said and done. but i am an AMERICAN and i love my country. i am patriotic and regardless of how he wont an election i will stand behind my country, unless i were asked to hurt other americans. it is my duty as a member of the greatest country on earth to do so. i hope he is gone as soon as the next election but untill then he is still my countries leader and regardless of my personal feelings i have to accept that.

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                                        • Why
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                                          • Mar 2003
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                                          #21
                                          P.S. Flame all you want, and prove your a jackass for not accepting and respecting other peoples opinions.

                                          thanks
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                                          • Massivecock
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gregtx



                                            dunno why it bothers you so much.. how would this draft affect you anyway?

                                            what is so bad about having to serve to protect/defend the country we live in??? most Euro's have to serve two years regardless...

                                            at leasat we dont' tax ipods 20%!!!

                                            Because all wars are frauds!

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                                            • directfiesta
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                                              • Oct 2002
                                              • 30135

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Why

                                              the US has not invaded 24 countries. maybe 2, iraq, and afghanistan, where are the other 22?

                                              Grenada, Panama, Haiti ... tried Cuba, Vietnam, Korea ... need more ????

                                              The USA has bombed the following nations since the end of WW2. (Original from Australian Options Quarterly No. 31, Summer 2002.)
                                              Frodo has failed
                                              China 1945-46
                                              Korea 1950-53
                                              China 1950-53
                                              Guatemala 1954
                                              Indonesia 1958
                                              Cuba 1959-60
                                              Guatemala 1960
                                              Congo 1964
                                              Peru 1965
                                              Laos 1965-73
                                              Vietnam 1961-73
                                              Cambodia 1969-70
                                              Guatemala 1967-69
                                              Grenada 1983
                                              Libya 1986
                                              El Salvadore 1980s
                                              Nicaragua 1980s
                                              Panama 1989
                                              Iraq 1991-2002
                                              Sudan 1998
                                              Afghanistan 1998
                                              Yogoslavia 1999
                                              Afghanistan 2001
                                              Iraq 2003
                                              I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                              But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                              • Why
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                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                Grenada, Panama, Haiti ... tried Cuba, Vietnam, Korea ... need more ????

                                                The USA has bombed the following nations since the end of WW2. (Original from Australian Options Quarterly No. 31, Summer 2002.)
                                                Frodo has failed
                                                China 1945-46
                                                Korea 1950-53
                                                China 1950-53
                                                Guatemala 1954
                                                Indonesia 1958
                                                Cuba 1959-60
                                                Guatemala 1960
                                                Congo 1964
                                                Peru 1965
                                                Laos 1965-73
                                                Vietnam 1961-73
                                                Cambodia 1969-70
                                                Guatemala 1967-69
                                                Grenada 1983
                                                Libya 1986
                                                El Salvadore 1980s
                                                Nicaragua 1980s
                                                Panama 1989
                                                Iraq 1991-2002
                                                Sudan 1998
                                                Afghanistan 1998
                                                Yogoslavia 1999
                                                Afghanistan 2001
                                                Iraq 2003
                                                and how many of them deserved it? how many of those were backed by the UN?

                                                bombing <> invading.

                                                try again.

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                                                • CamChicks
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                                                  #25
                                                  couldn't you just tell them you're gay?

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                                                  • baddog
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Massivecock



                                                    Because all wars are frauds!
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                                                    • Why
                                                      MFBA
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 7230

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Massivecock



                                                      Because all wars are frauds!
                                                      as long as there is man
                                                      there will be wars.

                                                      -albert einstein.

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                                                      • NaughtyJenn
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                                                        #28
                                                        ok i gotta jump in this..i am not anti american but i think alot of americans are very shelterd and do not know what the rest of the world thinks of them at times, if u really wanna play "we did this for canada" and so forth im game but just make sure u brush up on world history before you do, not just the usa history they teach ya.. still saddens me that we learn all about the states and canada, yet states learn nothing... that 2 me is sad

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                                                        • taboo_dude
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                                                          #29
                                                          good post why, a lot of truth in it.
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                                                          • directfiesta
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                                                            • Oct 2002
                                                            • 30135

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Why
                                                            and how many of them deserved it? how many of those were backed by the UN?

                                                            bombing <> invading.

                                                            try again.
                                                            ??? this is what you asked:

                                                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                            Originally posted by Why

                                                            the US has not invaded 24 countries. maybe 2, iraq, and afghanistan, where are the other 22?


                                                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                            You don't like the answer, so you change the question...

                                                            Seems pretty common in the US now ...
                                                            I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                            But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                            • rooster
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                                                              #31
                                                              excellent post by Why. (part of it any way, dont like the liberal whining)


                                                              Its funny seeing ultra socialists scared off their fucking ass that they might have to actually do some duty for their country, instead of just bleeding it dry like a parasite.






                                                              Maybe you can use Howard Deans half assed back injury excuse and then spend a year as a ski bum too. lol
                                                              Last edited by rooster; 12-11-2003, 08:05 PM.
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                                                              • Why
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                                                                • Mar 2003
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by taboo_dude
                                                                good post why, a lot of truth in it.
                                                                thank you!

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                                                                • Why
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by rooster
                                                                  excellent post by Why.


                                                                  Its funny seeing ultra socialists scared off their fucking ass that they might have to actually do some duty for their country, instead of just bleeding it dry like a parasite.
                                                                  THANK YOU!

                                                                  yea, america is the NOT only country stock full of parasites. it appears a lot of other developed nations have become welfare states as well. germany?
                                                                  Last edited by Why; 12-11-2003, 08:07 PM.

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                                                                  • Why
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 7230

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                                    ??? this is what you asked:

                                                                    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                    Originally posted by Why

                                                                    the US has not invaded 24 countries. maybe 2, iraq, and afghanistan, where are the other 22?


                                                                    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                    You don't like the answer, so you change the question...

                                                                    Seems pretty common in the US now ...
                                                                    you posted countries we BOMBED... NOT invaded.

                                                                    get it right.... give me a list of countries we have INVADED!

                                                                    the question wasnt changed. you changed it by posting a list of countries we bombed. bombing and invading are two totally differant thing. one is blowing shit up, the other is occupying.

                                                                    so my second question was a response to the bogus list that you posted.

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                                                                    • NaughtyJenn
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      why: what do u think of what i wrote? honestly

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                                                                      • directfiesta
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                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                        • 30135

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Why
                                                                        you posted countries we BOMBED... NOT invaded.

                                                                        get it right.... give me a list of countries we have INVADED!

                                                                        the question wasnt changed. you changed it by posting a list of countries we bombed. bombing and invading are two totally differant thing. one is blowing shit up, the other is occupying.

                                                                        so my second question was a response to the bogus list that you posted.
                                                                        OK, I understand that you have a hard time with a list. So lets start with one:

                                                                        Grenada...

                                                                        In your opinion, was it invaded or not, and if so, for what real and/or false reason...

                                                                        This is going to be a long educationnal process....


                                                                        By the way, If I bomb yoyr home, I think you will fell " invaded"...
                                                                        I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                        But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                        • Why
                                                                          MFBA
                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                          • 7230

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by directfiesta

                                                                          OK, I understand that you have a hard time with a list. So lets start with one:

                                                                          Grenada...

                                                                          In your opinion, was it invaded or not, and if so, for what real and/or false reason...

                                                                          This is going to be a long educationnal process....


                                                                          By the way, If I bomb yoyr home, I think you will fell " invaded"...
                                                                          i see china on that list twice. and i dont think we have ever came close to invading china.

                                                                          if you bombed my house i would feel bombed, not invaded. dont generalize, lets stick to the facts.

                                                                          AGAIN. list countries america has invaded, not bombed.

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                                                                          • Why
                                                                            MFBA
                                                                            • Mar 2003
                                                                            • 7230

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                                            ok i gotta jump in this..i am not anti american but i think alot of americans are very shelterd and do not know what the rest of the world thinks of them at times, if u really wanna play "we did this for canada" and so forth im game but just make sure u brush up on world history before you do, not just the usa history they teach ya.. still saddens me that we learn all about the states and canada, yet states learn nothing... that 2 me is sad
                                                                            i learned a lot in world history, my teacher was very great at telling things the way they were and not the way they were written in the books, in fact i dont even remember opening my history book aside from looking at maps. it was mostly lecturing. i have done a LOT of reading regarding wars and have done as much as possible to educate myself on my own as well as outside the box.

                                                                            if you want to talk about sheltered. how about we talk about the fact that if iraq were to invade america they would rape and kill our woman and children for sport, yet US gets the shaft everytime there is a casualty in war.

                                                                            americans are not only sheltered but blind as well.

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                                                                            • taboo_dude
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by NaughtyJenn
                                                                              ok i gotta jump in this..i am not anti american but i think alot of americans are very shelterd and do not know what the rest of the world thinks of them at times, if u really wanna play "we did this for canada" and so forth im game but just make sure u brush up on world history before you do, not just the usa history they teach ya.. still saddens me that we learn all about the states and canada, yet states learn nothing... that 2 me is sad
                                                                              I'm well aware of how viewed around the world and they are some good reasons for that. But I also think a lot of attention is focused toward our failures more than our success.

                                                                              We have our faults, but like someone else said in this thread, look at your own goverment (that is if you have one) This isn't directed to you Jenn just everyone on general. Our system has flaws but we do have one and they are several other countries that will soon have systems where they have a voice instead of a dictator because of the states. Just my 2
                                                                              If you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow. The Duke.

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                                                                              • directfiesta
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                                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by Why
                                                                                i see china on that list twice. and i dont think we have ever came close to invading china.

                                                                                if you bombed my house i would feel bombed, not invaded. dont generalize, lets stick to the facts.

                                                                                AGAIN. list countries america has invaded, not bombed.
                                                                                Read above your post:

                                                                                and answer about Grenada...


                                                                                FYI, countries listed twice or more is because they habe been bombed in more than one occasion... look at the dates... couldn;t figure it oout.


                                                                                If you are going to come back with some other gibrish... the stfu.

                                                                                GRENADA????
                                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                • NaughtyJenn
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Why
                                                                                  i learned a lot in world history, my teacher was very great at telling things the way they were and not the way they were written in the books, in fact i dont even remember opening my history book aside from looking at maps. it was mostly lecturing. i have done a LOT of reading regarding wars and have done as much as possible to educate myself on my own as well as outside the box.

                                                                                  if you want to talk about sheltered. how about we talk about the fact that if iraq were to invade america they would rape and kill our woman and children for sport, yet US gets the shaft everytime there is a casualty in war.

                                                                                  americans are not only sheltered but blind as well.
                                                                                  by any means i can tell your a very educated person. that is awsome but you must honestly say that there is a very large amount that do not have the chance to have such a great teacher like yourself. I think the war in iraq is good and bad, i think the reasons why the states went to war was wrong but unfortunitly it is hard to change a society and how they opperate overnight. I feel bad for every life lost (americans and iraq's). I do feel strongly that many americans need to wake up from the "we are the best" type view, yes you are a huge power in the world, if not the biggest but that cockyness has bitten the americans in but butt before..

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                                                                                  • rooster
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    imo its the ultra socialists that are sheletered. You can act more sophisticated and think your more evolved as humans with your idealogical thoughts, but simply put, your methods do not work.

                                                                                    Never have, never will. Sure sound good on paper though.
                                                                                    Ever notice that pretty much everything added to the Constitution after the original was a mistake.

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                                                                                    • Why
                                                                                      MFBA
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      and back to that list.

                                                                                      libya was bombed, not invaded.

                                                                                      yugoslavia was bombed by american bombers, not invaded, and i seem to recall that was a NATO decision. which would also include your fine country of canada.

                                                                                      i seem to recall we went to vietnam(not a subject we should really get into, for obvious reason) to stop an invasion, fucked up circumstances indeed.

                                                                                      i think we went to cambodia to stop a massive genocide.

                                                                                      i think the first time we bombed afghanistan was also allowed by the UN. as well as the second time. but the first i cant say without doing some more research.

                                                                                      your list of countries is only 19 strong. and most were bombed, and not occupied.

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                                                                                      • NaughtyJenn
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by taboo_dude


                                                                                        I'm well aware of how viewed around the world and they are some good reasons for that. But I also think a lot of attention is focused toward our failures more than our success.

                                                                                        We have our faults, but like someone else said in this thread, look at your own goverment (that is if you have one) This isn't directed to you Jenn just everyone on general. Our system has flaws but we do have one and they are several other countries that will soon have systems where they have a voice instead of a dictator because of the states. Just my 2
                                                                                        every goverment has flaws, look at the goverment systems and people who run them, greed and money make them turn. if you ever have time read a book called "animal farm" by orwell shows how a perfect goverment corrupts as fast as it was built

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                                                                                        • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by rooster
                                                                                          imo its the ultra socialists that are sheletered. You can act more sophisticated and think your more evolved as humans with your idealogical thoughts, but simply put, your methods do not work.

                                                                                          Never have, never will. Sure sound good on paper though.
                                                                                          They work a hell of a lot better than libertarianism.

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                                                                                          • NaughtyJenn
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            read animal farm by george orwell and that will answer ur views on communism and all other goverment systems

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                                                                                            • BigFish
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by directfiesta

                                                                                              OK, I understand that you have a hard time with a list. So lets start with one:

                                                                                              Grenada...

                                                                                              In your opinion, was it invaded or not, and if so, for what real and/or false reason...

                                                                                              This is going to be a long educationnal process....


                                                                                              By the way, If I bomb yoyr home, I think you will fell " invaded"...
                                                                                              Learn English you goddamn illiterate fuck. Why is it that dumb monkeys, that never made it past high school, ALWAYS try to preach like they're expert world policy makers. You don't know shit boy. Get your ass off of GFY and go get yourself an education before you talk idiot.

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                                                                                              • directfiesta
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                                                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Why
                                                                                                and back to that list.

                                                                                                libya was bombed, not invaded.

                                                                                                yugoslavia was bombed by american bombers, not invaded, and i seem to recall that was a NATO decision. which would also include your fine country of canada.

                                                                                                i seem to recall we went to vietnam(not a subject we should really get into, for obvious reason) to stop an invasion, fucked up circumstances indeed.

                                                                                                i think we went to cambodia to stop a massive genocide.

                                                                                                i think the first time we bombed afghanistan was also allowed by the UN. as well as the second time. but the first i cant say without doing some more research.

                                                                                                your list of countries is only 19 strong. and most were bombed, and not occupied.
                                                                                                Knew you were a kid...

                                                                                                GRENADA
                                                                                                I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

                                                                                                But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....

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                                                                                                • Joe Citizen
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by BigFish


                                                                                                  Learn English you goddamn illiterate fuck. Why is it that dumb monkeys, that never made it past high school, ALWAYS try to preach like they're expert world policy makers. You don't know shit boy. Get your ass off of GFY and go get yourself an education before you talk idiot.
                                                                                                  Maybe English isn't his first language fuckface.

                                                                                                  How many languages do you speak?

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                                                                                                  • Why
                                                                                                    MFBA
                                                                                                    • Mar 2003
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by directfiesta


                                                                                                    Read above your post:

                                                                                                    and answer about Grenada...


                                                                                                    FYI, countries listed twice or more is because they habe been bombed in more than one occasion... look at the dates... couldn;t figure it oout.


                                                                                                    If you are going to come back with some other gibrish... the stfu.

                                                                                                    GRENADA????
                                                                                                    im not here to explain why we did what we did as i really am not the person to ask. and i think most of the people that would be the right folks to ask are dead.

                                                                                                    i asked for countries we have INVADED. not bombed, and not in chronological order or any other spin you care to put on it. there are only 19 countries on that list. most were bombed and not invaded. give up your losing battle my friend.

                                                                                                    so there were not 22 to begin with. only 19. many of which were NOT invaded. im not here to argu over americas rights and wrongs. so we have BOMBED 19 countries since the end of WWII. you have already lost the argument, you were unable to list 22 countries we have INVADED, thanks.

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