And like I said you don't know me from a hill of beans. I refuse to continue to down this path with you. You don't agree with me, then that is great. Don't join.

I am just offering a solution for a few webmaster's who have been allegedly scammed. Is this exposure for our program? Yes, you are dam right it is and it is about time too.

We don't profess to be the best but we do profess that we try and are here to help anyone who asks.

I'll be in Vegas as will Jason, so maybe you should try to get to know us a little.

Take care.

do you have free content?

:1orglaugh He's on something.

Yep we do!

What can you do when your trying to give money away..

you link hotten my sig? :1orglaugh

Haha that's great! I'm sending someone your way now, I'm sure he'll be quite happy!

positive?????

a marketing campaign directed at people who may or may not have been cheated - based SOLY on a RHUMOR spread on GFY - doesn't show much class and isn't positive.

it's riot mentality.

that's my 2cents.

I never at ANY point said you guys were cheaters. Where the FUCK did that come from? Just that your program - as pretty much EVERYONE ELSE's PROGRAM, is vunerable to cheating and shaving.

Saying it isn't vunerable is just foolish. Affiliates deal with people that they trust.

Think about that and this marketing campaign here again just for a second and see if you can sense any irony.....

I agree 100% with Sleazy, this shows a total lack of class and I'd never touch this program.

Jason K, how can you not understand what Sleazy is saying? A company has a couple screenshots posted by an ex-employee that makes it look like they're shaving, very far from real proof, and you exploit that situation in a desperate attempt to get people to promote your program? Sad.

you're totallty avoiding what I've been saying.

thanks rich - that's my point exactly.

Jesus Has Left the Building.

Ok Rich and Sleazy,

I do now undersatnd that you say we are not cheating. Let me say a few words and then give me your thoughts. I you are basically saying that we are taking advantage of PIB's misfortune. Look at it at our stand point. First off...our webmaster is third on that list as id #68. Beside that point....who is the real victim? You are saying it's PIB, but in reality it's the webmasters. Where does this leave the webmasters? Holding their Dicks? So are we wrong for siding with the webmasters?

it's not that you're not wrong for siding with with webmasters, it wrong to jump on a bandwagon like this and make a marketing program for YOUR company based on the misfortune of others.



i'm not defending PIB cash at all here - understand that. just saying that there wasn't difinative PROOF - only third party acusations at best - and that's not a smart thing to make a marketing program for YOUR COMPANY based upon.

we just see things diiferent.

well i HOPE i at least enlightened you to looking at something from a different perspective.

:thumbsup

I value your views sleazy. I hope can see it our way as well.

It's capitalism man. ANY company would do the same.
Let's say MCIs network went down for a day.
I'm sure AT&Ts next commercial would be:
"Don't lose your phone and BUSINESS for days on end with some OTHER company.. come to us!"

Every company in the world will grab a foothold on something like this.
And I absolutely guarantee you there are lots JUST like Sleazy who will boycott what happened and say it was unjust.

That's the nature of business... unfortunatly not everyone sees eye to eye.

no - not ANY company.

some companies DO have class and don't fall for the lowest common deminonator.......

others DON'T.

This is a good deal for anyone who's ID was on those screen caps. This is a solid program, that is getting better every day.

These guys don't run bullshit contests, fake congrats threads, or other phony reach around tactics on the boards. Why? Because they are busy making money :thumbsup

Solid program, solid staff - now offering people who got screwed ( ok, I'll throw in allegedly here, to satisfy the angry masses ) a nice way to re-coup some of the lost earnings, in time for Xmas.

Thanks Steve...wish you were still here in SoCal....could use you about now....

may or may not? Obviously you haven't seen the growing list of webmasters he has scammed.

He failed to prove to his affiliates that he runs an honest program by providing admin access to people that dispute it. Actually he was so paniced that at first he made a support topic on his board with a "real screenshot" of the admin and in no time he deleted it for obvious reasons.

Rconn is a scam artist and thief. He was a thief way before the shaving came out and that's why such reactions from webmasters. (Rconn, i hear you have lawyers, take notes)


As far Alex's offer, it is legit and everyone working with him already knows he is among the most trustworthy persons in this business.

I agree 100% Steve. There are so many scumbags and scammers in this biz, unfortunately i can count on one hand who i trust in this biz and Jason and Alex are 2 of them.

Jason=looser :BangBang:

rfk = retard found keyboard?


welcome on board rfk

Only when we play golf in Vegas.. But proberly not by much..

Get a clue nerd.. I guess you have an S Class to..


Who is the loooooooser now, anon?????

No to many people would call Jason loser to his face except for me of course....lol

Nah dude it's

"he shoots in the 80's and drives a Mercedes"

A couple of people have made complete twats of themselves in this thread -

Most certainly not Jason and Alex:thumbsup

Business is ALL about marketing - And if one programme screws webmasters and is caught, then why shouldn't an honest programme jump in and pick up the pieces for their own benefit?

I bet you there are several programme owners out there now thinking: "Why the fuck didn't I think of that"?

Way to go, Guys!

Thanks, we appreciate the backing.

Take care.

what the fuck is up with you fucking whiners. he is offering to help people, some of whom lost into the thousands, to help recoup thier loses.

even if its not true at least he is offering to help them, and if its not true then its his loss. what the fuck can you lose?

and i seem to recall when website billing took a dive ccbill and epoch were in here like mother fuckers trying to scoop up clients in the fall out.

STFU babies. get a fucking grip.

business is business, get over it.

:1orglaugh

Let me get the beats

Not to mention LikeWhoa. How many hosts were jumping on that one? Get real...

Not too many people know you guys were trained to kill by the Government. :Graucho

Nice job on the hosted galleries, too. I gotta get these babies into the rotation - they look like money to me.

good promo!!

:glugglug

Shhhh Steve......you know I am softy...lol

WHOA!!

All?s I know is that JasonAndAlex are offering a sweet deal to the webmasters who where ?allegedly? shaved. They are forking out extra coin from their own pockets in order to help some webmasters out. How is this wrong?

Zeus

i guess youd have to have your head deep in your ass to understand how its wrong.