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reynold 12-10-2003 07:44 PM

my guess is as good as yours. However, if OPEC starts using EUROS as the main benchmark currency for petrol.... watch out! This may be the beginning of a new era.

SleazyDream 12-10-2003 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
regardless, i'm losing over 70K/month purely on exchange rate.

oh, and davidd should post more.

i cry every time I goto the bank now

Webby 12-10-2003 08:14 PM

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regardless, i'm losing over 70K/month purely on exchange rate.

oh, and davidd should post more.
Shit Quiet! That's a lump to dump on exchange rates!!

I dunno, but I can't see the $ getting anywhere for a long time (ie.. a year or so). There are loads of factors, but I can see not a lot of action to help the US bring this up (even if the Treasury wanted to!).

We got stuff like the lowest foreign investment in years on Wall Street - that little bit was $50billion/month but has dropped in the last few months to $4billion. The list is kinda endless...

Frankly.. I smell this is "dangerous" and it not going to go away soon. It may be something to consider in keeping *some* $$'s in a dollar account and waiting - but that's a gamble! :winkwink:

Webby 12-10-2003 08:19 PM

reynold:

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my guess is as good as yours. However, if OPEC starts using EUROS as the main benchmark currency for petrol.... watch out! This may be the beginning of a new era.
Splutter!! :) Na.. I don't think even OPEC would want to cause that trauma!

Most forecasts of that possibility turns a few countries on their heads economically - like the US is "gains a ranking of the current status of Argentina". Who knows, but I don't see OPEC doing this - at least not in one hit.

Video-Post 12-11-2003 01:38 AM

At least there is one advantage...if you invest in something now, it's 20% cheaper.

psyko514 12-11-2003 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by Video-Post
At least there is one advantage...if you invest in something now, it's 20% cheaper.
not really. if i'm making US$ and i purchase in US$, it doesn't make a difference how much the US$ is worth in CDN funds.

but if i'm making US$ and i'm spending it in Canada, I'm losing a shitload.

$10K US is worth less than $13K CDN now. A year ago, it was worth over $16K.

GonePhishing 12-11-2003 02:25 AM

Hopefully after this winter quarter.

Video-Post 12-11-2003 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by psyko514


not really. if i'm making US$ and i purchase in US$, it doesn't make a difference how much the US$ is worth in CDN funds.

but if i'm making US$ and i'm spending it in Canada, I'm losing a shitload.

$10K US is worth less than $13K CDN now. A year ago, it was worth over $16K.

Yes, if you are looking at it short-term. I was thinking more about the money you made in the past years - it's a good time to reinvest.

12clicks 12-11-2003 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


You forgot about the US huge national debt... which increase with a low US dollar... which needs to be reimbursed every year if you dont want it to be even bigger....

Wrong, I don't forget anything.
Your idea would only be true if our debt was owed to europe. its not.
Also, the debt is transacted in dollars making its worth irrelevant. Of course, if we're paying our debt in deflated valued currency, then we're BETTER off, not worse.

get it or do you need a deeper explaination?

12clicks 12-11-2003 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by Freeway

Thats figures.
The Regan fiasco.

now here is a perfect example of a poor public school education.

Calling the successful Reagan plan of bailing us out of Carter's recession "the reagan fiasco" is typical of the uneducated/miseducated

X37375787 12-11-2003 07:50 AM

fiddy dollaz

slapass 12-11-2003 08:19 AM

The US is way over do for inflation. We have fought off any real inflation fro 20 years and the cycle is turning. Add in GW's spending and everyone can see the writing on the wall. OPEC is a risk and people want to be compensated for it.

So it will take some serious interest rate hikes to reverse this.

Wankenstein 12-11-2003 08:42 AM

Yeah, with the Dow and the Nikkei on such a steady decline intrest rates will not go up any time soon. I thought wars were supposed to be good for the economy!

Maru 12-11-2003 08:46 AM

I haven't read this thread - but the wisest thing to do has always been to get a feel for what most people think - and then do the opposite.

If people are pessimistic, be optimistic, etc.

cafeaulait 12-11-2003 08:46 AM

Use it, don't lose it, see sig :2 cents:

Matt_WildCash 12-11-2003 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by davidd


This is the best currency comparison I have seen.

This takes all major currencies back to 1948 and compares them with the USD. It includes all of the fiat currencies that later became the Euro also.

http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/etc/USDpages.pdf

DavidD, thanks a lot mate thats a kickass document thats just what I was after but couldn't find it.

Looks like US to Aussie at 1.28 or maybe 1.30 would be a good time to change. its currently 1.35. If the US is at one of its lowest points and the Aussie is at its record high, can't really go wrong :)

Thanks again mate

Cheers

Matt

xroach 12-11-2003 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
odd that there was none of this squeeling when the dollar was on its long climb.

The dollar will stop dropping when its good for us to have it stop dropping.:thumbsup
As the worlds largest consumer country, its time we spent the money at home and improved our import/export inbalance.
A lower dollar does all this along with creating more jobs.
its economics 101


whoah, an informed opinion on gfy .. fucked up

:thumbsup

NBDesign 12-11-2003 09:26 AM

the day george w gets out of office :1orglaugh

12clicks 12-11-2003 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by xroach



whoah, an informed opinion on gfy .. fucked up

:thumbsup

and then back to the usual:


Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign

the day george w gets out of office


eatapeach 12-11-2003 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by xroach



whoah, an informed opinion on gfy .. fucked up

:thumbsup

this just shows you aren't paying attention.

if you want to learn how to get a bad reputation for your company or how to spout delusional rhetoric 12clicks is your man, but if you want intelligent economics commentary i'd suggest you look elsewhere.

McSpike 12-11-2003 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
The dollar will stop dropping when its good for us to have it stop dropping.:thumbsup
your momma is gay

12clicks 12-11-2003 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by eatapeach


this just shows you aren't paying attention.

if you want to learn how to get a bad reputation for your company or how to spout delusional rhetoric 12clicks is your man, but if you want intelligent economics commentary i'd suggest you look elsewhere.

oh no! more slings and arrows from nobodies. however will my business survive.
:1orglaugh

if only I had *this* empire:
http://www.eatapeach.net/
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

mr rick 12-11-2003 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by xroach



whoah, an informed opinion on gfy .. fucked up

:thumbsup

Just as important, the dollar downdraft is already having a salutary effect on profits -- and the stock market -- by raising the overseas earnings of Corporate America.

It's certainly good news for much of Corporate America, especially multinational companies. About a quarter of the sales of companies in the Standard & Poor's 500-stock index come from their foreign units, estimates Merrill Lynch & Co. The biggest reason for the immediate profit gains that many are starting to see isn't rising exports or better protection from cheap imports but simply from translating foreign earnings from more valuable foreign currencies into dollars.

xroach 12-11-2003 10:01 AM

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Originally posted by eatapeach


this just shows you aren't paying attention.

if you want to learn how to get a bad reputation for your company or how to spout delusional rhetoric 12clicks is your man, but if you want intelligent economics commentary i'd suggest you look elsewhere.

i dunno about 12clicks otherwise, but that really is economics 101

McSpike 12-11-2003 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Video-Post
At least there is one advantage...if you invest in something now, it's 20% cheaper.
25%!

McSpike 12-11-2003 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I am naive
yes that's it. at least once something smart out of your mouth. :thumbsup

xroach 12-11-2003 10:10 AM

so much of what i read on this board is ignorant reguritated extreme left wing bullshit

eatapeach 12-11-2003 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


oh no! more slings and arrows from nobodies. however will my business survive.
:1orglaugh

if only I had *this* empire:
http://www.eatapeach.net/
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

nobody has ever called me a thief.

i can live with that.

xroach 12-11-2003 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by eatapeach


nobody has ever called me a thief.

i can live with that.

fucking thief

chowda 12-11-2003 01:42 PM

just keep spending us dollars.

12clicks 12-11-2003 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by eatapeach


nobody has ever called me a thief.

i can live with that.

Nobody has ever called you successful either.
hope you can live with that.

12clicks 12-11-2003 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by McSpike


6th grade computer class is the only time I can post here

It all makes sense now.

eatapeach 12-11-2003 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


Nobody has ever called you successful either.
hope you can live with that.


yes, i know i'd just beam with pride if i could just be a successful thief.

maybe you can start a new "questions for 12clicks" thread so i can get a heads up?

^R3K^ 12-11-2003 02:57 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


Nobody has ever called you successful either.
hope you can live with that.

I called him successful several times, but i never meant it.. ;-))

Actually peach is one of the hardest working webmasters i know. :)

Even if he fucks trannies nightly. Maybe you and him can get together and share in your mutual tranny love. :))

12clicks 12-12-2003 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by ^R3K^


I called him successful several times, but i never meant it.. ;-))

Actually peach is one of the hardest working webmasters i know. :)

Even if he fucks trannies nightly. Maybe you and him can get together and share in your mutual tranny love. :))

Hard working oftentimes means limited intelligence.
I'm betting that here.
If this nobody thinks I'm a thief, he/she either has a skeleton in his/her closet or has friends who are thieves.

whichever, it doesn't matter what nobodies think today any more than it did 5 years ago.
There are very few people on the entire net who have paid webmasters more than I have.
:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

McSpike 12-13-2003 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
I am nobody and a thief
:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

ya what else is new?

sacX 12-13-2003 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by 12clicks
odd that there was none of this squeeling when the dollar was on its long climb.

The dollar will stop dropping when its good for us to have it stop dropping.:thumbsup
As the worlds largest consumer country, its time we spent the money at home and improved our import/export inbalance.
A lower dollar does all this along with creating more jobs.
its economics 101

unfortunately the import/export imbalance is widening!. Sorry but you'll need a bit more than economics 101 to understand this.

A lot of the problem with the US deficit is outside the united states control.. God forbid you might actually need the european and japanese economies to improve so they start purchasing US goods.

Mr.Fiction 12-13-2003 04:44 PM

http://www.wibx950.com/photo/talk-rush.jpg

:1orglaugh


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