Which Counter Stats Do You Trust?

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  • liquidmoe
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2002
    • 4994

    #1

    Which Counter Stats Do You Trust?

    So I got a porngraph counter, a counted.com (less known but I've liked them for a while) counter, a sextracker counter, and my webalizer stats up and running, and each one is showing me different things. Webalizer shows the most vists, then counted.com, then sextracker, and then porngraph which surprisingly shows about 25% of what the other counters report.

    So who do I trust, my main concern is of course possible hit botters before I've been able to weed them out easily based on the differences between UCJ and counted.com stats. UCJ is most in agreement with Webalizer/counted than they are porngraph stats.

    Whats most reliable for you? What should I trust, it's not exactly small deviations either if according to porngraph Im only getting 25% of what counted says.

    Take Luck!
  • juicylinks
    So Fucking Banned
    • Apr 2001
    • 122992

    #2
    Try to trade with people you know , people you dont know keep an eye on the trades

    Go with your gut, if a new trade seems fishy and it aint looking legit do some research on it.

    All counter will have different results that a given.

    Also if a trade signs up with no contact info and so on , it rasies a flag at least for me.

    Keep in mind also that hitbots these days are getting advanced.
    They can go 3-4 levels deep so if a trade you trust looks fishy talk to him cause he might be the one getting fucked and the hits are trickling down all over.

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    • triumph
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2002
      • 3433

      #3
      porngraph seems pretty good.

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      • GTS Mark
        Vrume Mark
        • Jan 2001
        • 20912

        #4
        I've used paycounter for almost 2 years, they seem to be very good.

        DH

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        • xxxzoltan
          Confirmed User
          • Oct 2003
          • 118

          #5
          Originally posted by DrinkingHard
          I've used paycounter for almost 2 years, they seem to be very good.

          DH
          very good for me, too
          1-2-3 GFY

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          • InsaneMidget
            Confirmed User
            • May 2002
            • 3767

            #6
            I don't trust any, but I use paycounter and sexlist...

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            • Lane
              Will code for food...
              • Apr 2001
              • 8496

              #7
              webalizer is server side, therefore most accurate
              it will use the raw apache logs

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              • pornguy
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Mar 2003
                • 62912

                #8
                I have used paycounter and they have great stats and are usually right on with my webalizer... But I never got paid from pay counter????


                Oh well...
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                • liquidmoe
                  Confirmed User
                  • Mar 2002
                  • 4994

                  #9
                  The advice on trades definitely makes sense, I'll be looking to that more. I havent checked out paycounter I may give it a whirl. Overall Im sort of mixed on webalizer because it is pretty good, but I've seen it have a few problems like hot linking and referrer stats being messed up because of it, plus it reports the most visitors out of anybody so I try not to rely on it otherwise I may end up thinking I have more traffic than I actually do.

                  I think being more careful about my trades and investigating them more is the best route, because if I trust all of my trades I know I wont have hitbotters then if 4 out of 5 stats programs report one figure, and one reports something extremely low like porngraph, then it will just be easier to throw out that low figure on account of some error.

                  Take Luck!

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                  • XxXotic
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 8500

                    #10
                    server logs
                    Oxeo - Serious Hosting For Serious Webmasters. iCQ:135.887013

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                    • PbG
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2003
                      • 1025

                      #11
                      Webalizer, has proven itself to be consistently reliable. If you have Urchin that's good too.

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                      • ElvisManson
                        Looking California
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 5476

                        #12
                        Originally posted by XxXotic
                        server logs
                        The only way to go.

                        Always count your own outbound hits... calculate your own VPC.

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                        • fuzebox
                          making it rain
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 22353

                          #13
                          I track all my inclicks and outclicks live into a database... Wouldn't have it any other way. Totally flexible and always accurate.

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                          • Nathan
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3108

                            #14
                            Hi,

                            liquidmoe.... before I can comment on this I would need to know a few things:
                            1) How big is your site? How many hits are we talking here?
                            2) We are talking uniques or actual page views?

                            If you answer me I can give you all the answers

                            BTW, both the Counted! and the PornGraph software is mine. (Oh, and Counted! does not allow porn ;))
                            "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
                            - Charlie Munger

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                            • Why
                              MFBA
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 7230

                              #15
                              code your own. then you know for sure its not fucking with you.

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