Fuck that, thats just stupid, sure we are out to make money, but a sponsor that shaves 50% or a sponsor that shaves 30% is no better in my opinion, I would not keep the one I make more money with, I'd find someone else and try them, I want every fucking penny I would make, it's only right...Tracking clicks with your own script, along with test signups once in awhile is a good way to tell...

Funny how X-Man.. oops, I mean Oracle bailed out of this thread over 20 posts ago.

can't take the heat.... move to a different thread :1orglaugh

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It really worries me that people would choose a dishonest sponsor over an honest sponsor purely for the size of the cheque (check to non-English).

Sure - Everybody has to put bread on the table - But supporting a criminal action really lacks any form of ethics.

Which brings me to this: If you support shaving, how much cheating would YOU do to other webmasters (Say, other a trffic deal etc), to ensure you raise your traffic counts to your cheating sponsor every day?

If NO-ONE support programmes that shave - NO PROGRAMME WOULD SHAVE.

It really is as simple as that

and now how much is your ratio now? Did you stop using them? let's see some screenshots

The thing is that each time you attempt to look smart and wise to the rest, you make a fool of yourself.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=206424

look for my post here... not going to post it again.

Let's just say, if you're lookin' for a Trivial Pursuit partner, he would *not* be your man. :1orglaugh

(especially on the world history questions)

That is the most retarted thing I heard all day. What if you found out an employer was suposed to be paying you more on commisions and you found out.. would you still stay and suck up to them? Get over it, stealing is stealing , I don't care if they send me 300 a month for nto even promoting them in the past 6 months, They owe money and STOLE traffic. It is THAT simple.

They say they pay for every signup, I want pay for all those signups. I'd rather send traffic to a worse converting sponsor than to thieves.

If any of you guys need help, ask Oracle Porn
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=206359

He is helping anyone who needs help making money in the Adult industry :thumbsup :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



All I have to say is that if you let people stick it to you in the ass, you will never get anywhere, Eventually people will be fucking you in the ass on matters that really matter, and you will accept it because your used to being the bitch.. So what if you make X amount more with pibcash, if they fucking shave, you should not promote them.. bottom line. If i was promoting a sponsor, and found proof that I was being stolen from, You better beleive I would be on the next flight to their office with a baseball bat..
Never let people take advantage of you.. unless you like anal

I posted it a couple of posts back

you signed up specialy for me not to know your name?
im touched!

So you would rather get make $5k in the end of the month and not be shaved rather than make $6k and be shaved?

Im not supporting anyone or anything...
but Im here to make money and not ask like a fucking preast with ethics...
If anyone here had real ethics we would all be in the fucking church...

thats your decision and that what separate biz from whatever else you want to call it.

Shut up nigga!

So your telling me to make less money?

Yea I was thinking stupid motherfucker myself....but that's just me.

yeah, well, you're obviously a major player... so you could afford to drop this one sponsor right? :1orglaugh

Besides, anyone with integrity would rather make an honest dollar with an honest company rather than support theives.

Oracle Porn welcome to my ignore list

Don't bother to reply on my posts from now on
At least I won't do

have a nice day :)

99 idiots who dont have a pot to piss in

bukkake?

make it 100

I've got one in each room of the trailer. I make my notes on short shaved sponsor checks.

Shaving is theft and it should equal jail time.
I don't understand why its illegal to steal in real life, but over the internet its 100% fine.
You'd get in more trouble stealing a chocolate bar in real life, then stealing over 15K online. Just nuts!

Ummm yeah great thread, maybe PIBcash should put on there frontpage.

"Our sites convert so well, we openly state that we shave 30-50% of your sales and your hits and you'll still convert better than other sponsors."


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PIBCash will not last long, even with huge traffic from Oracle Porn.

Oracle Porn is partly right. As a webmaster 99% of the time you can't prove a sponsor is shaving. So are you gonna spend all your time trying to figure it out, or just go with the sponsor who sends you the biggest check?

Of course if a sponsor is caught shaving red-handed then they pretty much deserve whatevers coming to them.

They are going to change domain names to www.shavebucks.com as well :thumbsup

StuartD you moron...
I see you talk the talk but you still use pib cash you fuck nut

http://www.sponsorslist.com/search/i...niche=&typ e=

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I use pibcash? When have I ever promoted them?

And yes, they are listed on sponsorslist.... because they are still a sponsor program, unless they closed down without anyone telling me.

You really don't know what you're talking about anymore, do you?

you PROMOTE them moron...
you use the affiliates code and get money for webmaster refs therefor you promote them you fucknut...
keep talking your shit you keyboard warrior...

The affiliate code that is in there doesn't work because they changed their software some months back.... they stopped tracking my traffic a LONG time ago.

And I never bothered to update it.... can you guess why?

Who's the moron now? Keep chirpin, you sound funny.

because your a lazy moron?
as long as you send them traffic you promote them! :321GFY

no, if I send them surfer traffic, I promote them... which is what you're doing.

If I send a webmaster to them, and that webmaster signs up to promote them.... then they're being incredibly stupid.... which is what you're doing.

get a fucking clue cuz you defenetly got no idea what the fuck are you bitching about
promotion is every kind of traffic... surfers/webmasters whatever...
and I thought I don't have no traffic? how can I send them any than?

below is a quote from sponsorslist.com that is used as a PROMOTION of the affiliate program of PIBCash...

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Hey can you hit me up when you get a chance? Want to run an idea by you...

Thx,
Edge
173121828

Uhm... as I said, any and all sponsors get listed there unless illegal in nature, meaning beastiality and crap.

There was no proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were shaving, and hense can't be pulled based on my personal feelings.

Any webmaster can get their link from anywhere.... they can click here if they want -> www.shavebucks.com

Me having them listed on a resource site isn't me promoting them... I don't "promote" any one sponsor on the site. They all get equal opportunity. I just make it so that webmasters can find them if they want to use them.

oh, and as for that text "used as a PROMOTION" is what is entered by the affiliates themselves. I don't write their descriptions dinkus.... they write them themselves.

you list it on your site... there for you send them traffic... if you send someone traffic its called promotion...

and like you said there is not real proof of shaving so why the fuck should I stop sending them traffic?

Because your money is going bye bye at a rate of, quite possibly, 50%.

Mine isn't.

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