Single Girl Sites

There are ways to get around the problems you mention... very simple ways.

But since so many people posting make it obvious that they don't see how easy it is, I'm not going to point it out to them.

You're right, that line doesn't apply to you. It was indeed a general statement.

I did not say you do not have the "freedom of speech/expression" to say that... just commented that it is all we have to "get to know you" by.

KKK members have those same freedoms. And when they voice their views it gives me an insight into their system of belief.

Likewise, saying you're "pimping" women or "exploiting daddy's girl" gives me an insight into your thoughts on women.

I would agree on this one.

RocHard is right too - LS is putting a lot of effort into their teen sites and have established a business franchise that launches model after model into stardom. OF COURSE, part of the success is due to their models' sex appeal but the bigger part (immeasurably bigger in fact) is due to Steve and Rochard and the rest of the guys there.

I think this business model could work for a photographer like Donnie but not for a bigger, established business like LS. Imagine what would happen if Microsoft start splitting the profits with the programmers who write the code! Stock options - yes, but not a 50/50 deal by a long shot.

Donovan.... I've agreed with you on most of your posts, and this thread in general... but I'll weigh in on this one with the proviso that you are certainly entitled to your opinion, and I definately understand it.

I think you have to be able to differentiate between fantasy and reality on the above, though. We are in the entertainment biz here. The whole 'bad girl' 'I'm a slut' is a pretty common fantasy to fulfill. Mona isn't offended by text calling her a 'cum guzzling slut' on her tour. We run a hardcore personal site, and always have, and don't sidestep the issue.

Where I end up having MAJOR issues with it is when the use (too often on these boards) is GENUINE. Especially where hypocrisy is involved - where the same webmasters who make a living off this stuff go 'what kind of whore would let someone come on their face on film?' as they jack off and collect their checks.

Sex CAN be beautiful... but that's not generally what we're selling. We're selling 'nasty' 'right up the ass' 'sluts that just gotta have it' blah, blah, blah.

Of course, this line can get fucked up. Personally, I think the sites where girls gag and puke on cock are disgusting. I tend to think the people who run those sites are NOT operating on a fantasy level, and really are degrading women. But that's just me. And I could be wrong.

People can chime in and say 'well, that's exploiting women' and I will go 'DUH!' The difference is if you're in a sexual groove and call Mona a slut, she'll pur. But if you look at her in disgust and say it - you'll probably end up getting kicked in the balls.

I would tend to agree with most of what you say here.

Exactly! Even if she needs you in the beginning, once she figures out that it does make money, it's not much to buy her own digital camera & start up herself. Worse, she'll get a new boyfriend who is an amateur web designer & they'll demand you take the site down.

A friend of mine built a singel girl site out of bought content. The girl freaked when she found it & started emailing all of his link trades, telling them to send traffic to her "real" site instead.

Have you ever heard of this new concept: "Legal Documents"?

You pay them for doing the shoots, and then give them recurring for you doing all of the work on the site? I really hope not. If they did the shoots for free, or not for free with less of a % then that'd seem logical.

Cheers,
Matt

Donavan,

I think it is a great idea if you set it up like an affiliate program and teach the models to promote their site.

I do plan on showing them how to do that. I'm sure I'll get slammed now for teaching them too much.

No. No one ever heard of legal documents.

Models that 'change their mind" after the fact is pretty much a YP not an MP.

The model in question had no leg to stand on and knew it but wasted her own precious time and energy attempting to leech my traffic because she had none of her own. The reports to the FBI she made didn't even help her. "Stealing her traffic" (as she accused) isn't illegal nor is annoying every webmaster I trade traffic with. Ingorance isn't a crime. It ought to be, but it isn't.

I think it's a nice idea to have a share with a model if you've found the right girl. It's not the norm and I have to add to Kcat's statement about the boyfriend. What do you do when the boyfriend (old, new or otherwise) tells your girl she can't model for you unless she gets a bigger cut. If you have a contract with her that says she has to model weekly, will you make her when she doesn't want to? When it's good business, it's good. When your model finds God, will you pull down your site of her? Or claims she was 'drunk' or on drugs at the time she signed your releases, will you be a business man or a nice guy.

How many sites of TiffanyAnn are there currently? Nice girl. New boyfriends, new webmasters... model gets an email from
a member who says he can make her more money than she's making now...

the potential hazards go on and on.

Hire them. Treat them nicely, shoot them while you can and go about your business.

Donovan, I dont' see a webmaster link for your sites. I'm looking for more teen single girl sites to promote if you are interested.

It always amazes me that some webmasters are so dismissive of profit share single girl sites. It's a lucrative sideline.

Excluding external costs (like marketing) the two most expensive costs are content and wages/time. Automation reduces wages tremendously, and these types of sites remove content costs. If the girl is actually willing to do some marketing (hence the percentage advantage), these are real money spinners. Wish I had more. Money for old rope. Good contract is key tho.

donnivan - listen to charley - he KNOWS what he's talking about and can articulate it much better than I can

you're the perfect example of what I'm trying to convey. Once a model with a brain waked up and realizes that she doesn't need anyone else - why use anyone else? You do MUCH better on your own.

this industry is about grinding though girls.... playboy, and every other magazine, has a different playmate EVERY month.