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Adult Site Traffic · 12-07-2003, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
+44 is uk country telephone code and that is also not a uk postal address

+7 is russia and the name looks russian

So who cares who's name the domain is in. I have been good friends with Paul for over 2 years, we have done business back and forth many many times, as well as spoken with him on the phone. I can tell you, that for business that's being carried out over the web, I know him very, very well.

His server admin is Miha Dedicov, and that's a fact.

Another thing, if you can't simply tell by his board personality that he's 100% UK, then something's wrong, LOL.

Don't attack people's whois information, let him work it out. Paul is as honest as they come.

Adult-biz · 12-07-2003, 01:34 PM

Fusion - you really are clutching at straws.

That address / name that has been listed is for a guy called Miha who is my admin for my server. For the record also - very helpful and professional.

Me -

I live in the UK ( not Russia ) and have done all my life. I am not hiding anything nor do I need to.

Thank you.

{fusion} · 12-07-2003, 01:36 PM

i have not said he is russian, i just said the contact information is false.

Adult Site Traffic · 12-07-2003, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by {fusion}
i have not said he is russian, i just said the contact information is false.

And his means .. ?

Nothing.

Let Paul and Nathan work on it. I have my own ideas as to exactly the problem, but I can't explain it well enough to be credible.
I've seen it in the past, and I have my own solutions, BTW, I use the same delivery script on one of my traffic servers.

I will say, leave him alone and let him figure it out. I trust Paul enough that I let him have access to some of my scripts.

You're not letting him work on it.

Adult-biz · 12-07-2003, 01:52 PM

Contact information is not false. Miha is my administrator as already mentioned. Statspage.net points to the following on the standard whois check -

Registrant:
TBA

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: STATSPAGE.NET

Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM
NS4.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM

The reason for this is because my many clients / resellers etc. demand an unbranded contact so the traffic delivery does not trace back to us which is totally understandable and which I welcome as discretion is essential in this business.

This name along with our other projects will be set-up to a proxy GoDaddy registration in the near future just to clear this matter up.

Thank you.

{fusion} · 12-07-2003, 02:17 PM

Nathan · 12-07-2003, 02:30 PM

Hi,

reason for the difference found.

The problem is the way ETS (the script that sexus and many other brokers use) sends traffic and the way PG tracks referrers.

PG Is by default setup in a way to track as many referrers as possible even for people that use frames.

ETS sends traffic via Frames out of a reason I do not understand, this causes the hahahahahahahahahaha code to break on at least IE as soon as it reaches referrer collection, therefor not counting most of this hits.

We HAVE an option in our create/edit counter form to say if the page has frames or to disable referrer collection, but because of a bug this actually does not change the counter code like it should. I am fixing that right now so in 15 minutes or so that should work. This though does NOT mean that you have to set the counter that gets ETS traffic to "The Pages have Frames". In contrary, you have to set it to "The Pages have no Frames" because they are not LOCAL frames, they are external frames which will kill the stats.

We will make sure that new counters get defaulted to no frames, which will make it all work on ALL sites, just that referrers are not collected well for Framed Sites, in those cases you can edit the code.

The change in the html code of PornGraph is TINY though. If you are having problems with most of your traffic not registering at all, then just do this small change in the code, it should help:

-- EDIT --
Ahhhh crappy banned words.
-- EDIT --
Search for: ".referrer". You will see a "top." infront of the document, just remove that.

Thats it.

We are very sorry that we partly caused all this mess, but are happy that we have resolved everything.

Thanks to sexus for msg'ing me so quickly to figure out the exact problem.

Adult-biz · 12-07-2003, 02:39 PM

Nathan, thank you for your reply and kind words towards the end of your findings.

Fusion - are you going to apologise for your wrongful exposure of `cheaters` as in us ?

Perhaps the lesson to be learnt here is people pointing the finger without having the full facts hence my initial comments.

Adult Site Traffic - thank you for your support and kind words, it really is a pleasure working with people in this industry who are as professional as you.

Paul.

JSA Matt · 12-07-2003, 03:05 PM

Hey arm&hammer, add referer and referrer to your spelling thread please

{fusion} · 12-07-2003, 03:08 PM

I guess this is the reason why forums are needed as it does bring out the honest and the bad traders and shit gets sorted out.

sorry it come to this and i am very sorry i called you a cheater.

thanks nathan for your effort in looking into the matter

TDF · 12-07-2003, 03:10 PM

I just LOVE happy endings!

www.porngraph.com

{fusion} · 12-07-2003, 03:12 PM

were your beta testers

12-07-2003, 02:30 PM	#57
Nathan Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,108	Hi, reason for the difference found. The problem is the way ETS (the script that sexus and many other brokers use) sends traffic and the way PG tracks referrers. PG Is by default setup in a way to track as many referrers as possible even for people that use frames. ETS sends traffic via Frames out of a reason I do not understand, this causes the hahahahahahahahahaha code to break on at least IE as soon as it reaches referrer collection, therefor not counting most of this hits. We HAVE an option in our create/edit counter form to say if the page has frames or to disable referrer collection, but because of a bug this actually does not change the counter code like it should. I am fixing that right now so in 15 minutes or so that should work. This though does NOT mean that you have to set the counter that gets ETS traffic to "The Pages have Frames". In contrary, you have to set it to "The Pages have no Frames" because they are not LOCAL frames, they are external frames which will kill the stats. We will make sure that new counters get defaulted to no frames, which will make it all work on ALL sites, just that referrers are not collected well for Framed Sites, in those cases you can edit the code. The change in the html code of PornGraph is TINY though. If you are having problems with most of your traffic not registering at all, then just do this small change in the code, it should help: -- EDIT -- Ahhhh crappy banned words. -- EDIT -- Search for: ".referrer". You will see a "top." infront of the document, just remove that. Thats it. We are very sorry that we partly caused all this mess, but are happy that we have resolved everything. Thanks to sexus for msg'ing me so quickly to figure out the exact problem. __________________ "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right." - Charlie Munger

12-07-2003, 03:10 PM	#61
TDF Triple OG nigga on GFY Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: in the BP4L family compound Posts: 27,296	I just LOVE happy endings! www.porngraph.com __________________ Sig heil

12-07-2003, 01:34 PM	#52
Adult-biz Service Provider Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,139	Fusion - you really are clutching at straws. That address / name that has been listed is for a guy called Miha who is my admin for my server. For the record also - very helpful and professional. Me - I live in the UK ( not Russia ) and have done all my life. I am not hiding anything nor do I need to. Thank you.

12-07-2003, 01:36 PM	#53
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	i have not said he is russian, i just said the contact information is false.

12-07-2003, 01:52 PM	#55
Adult-biz Service Provider Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,139	Contact information is not false. Miha is my administrator as already mentioned. Statspage.net points to the following on the standard whois check - Registrant: TBA Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name: STATSPAGE.NET Domain servers in listed order: NS3.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM NS4.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM The reason for this is because my many clients / resellers etc. demand an unbranded contact so the traffic delivery does not trace back to us which is totally understandable and which I welcome as discretion is essential in this business. This name along with our other projects will be set-up to a proxy GoDaddy registration in the near future just to clear this matter up. Thank you.

12-07-2003, 02:17 PM	#56
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	k

12-07-2003, 02:39 PM	#58
Adult-biz Service Provider Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,139	Nathan, thank you for your reply and kind words towards the end of your findings. Fusion - are you going to apologise for your wrongful exposure of `cheaters` as in us ? Perhaps the lesson to be learnt here is people pointing the finger without having the full facts hence my initial comments. Adult Site Traffic - thank you for your support and kind words, it really is a pleasure working with people in this industry who are as professional as you. Paul.

12-07-2003, 03:05 PM	#59
JSA Matt So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 5,464	Hey arm&hammer, add referer and referrer to your spelling thread please

12-07-2003, 03:08 PM	#60
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	I guess this is the reason why forums are needed as it does bring out the honest and the bad traders and shit gets sorted out. sorry it come to this and i am very sorry i called you a cheater. thanks nathan for your effort in looking into the matter

12-07-2003, 03:12 PM	#62
{fusion} Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,650	were your beta testers