This is why you buy your hits from Jesus Traffic!!!

If you can't trust Jesus who can you trust!

maxjohan, sorry I was not sure what point you was making ? Are you supporting porngraph stats or stating that you had the same issue with them and that they were not tracking everything ?

Please clarify.

Fusion -

Do you honestly expect me to believe that only 100 or so hits out of 11 K are showing ?

Stupid statement.

I am becoming tired of repeating my point -

1. We do not supply bot traffic.
2. Traffic sent to clients / resellers etc. shows a variation ranging from 2 % - 15 % depending on the tracking used.

I suggest you post your raw logs for when this traffic commenced and we will see who is telling the truth.

For the record if anybody is interested, the following is the 404 eror traffic sent to -http://www.iansamateurs.com/console/newlover/index.html for today only -

Statistics for a day
Hour Unique
0 114
1 74
2 44
3 61
4 79
5 85
6 97
7 111
8 99
9 77
10 70


It is very easy for anybody coming onto this board and make all sorts of opinions be it blatant lies or truth.

People ( members ) can only comment on any statements made on these boards and provide feedback on what has been quoted so a postive or negative opinion can be formed very quickly and can work for or against you whether it be utter bollocks or a true reflection.

Fusion - do you honestly think I would really only send 134 hits to a page out of some 11,000 ?

Thank you.

so you saying i made the figures up? i dont have time to go around doing stuff like that, but i do have time to expose cheaters.

Hi sexus,

what maxjohan is talking about is the fact that sometimes REFERRER stats on porngraph miss some percentage of the traffic. This has many different reasons which would be a huge post I do not want to bore you with ;)

BUT the uniques/hits stats we provide AND also things like Country Stats and the like are ACCURATE.

I would love to help resolve this issue since I do not want a bug in our code (although I doubt there is one) to cause something like this. Thus, if you can help to test what causes this big difference in hit stats, contact me up on icq 1889711.

Wonder if he will contact you?:Graucho

Domain Name: SERVAK.BIZ
Domain ID: D2931360-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: GODA-0912534
Registrant Name: Miha Dedicov
Registrant Organization: n/a
Registrant Address1: Krizovna st, 12a
Registrant City: Kharkiv
Registrant State/Province: Not Applicable
Registrant Postal Code: 100658
Registrant Country: United Kingdom
Registrant Country Code: UK
Registrant Phone Number: +7.06562458756

are you sure your name is paul?

why do you hide all contact information if your so respected?

He did, talking to him now..

I'll post when I find anything.

Domain Name: SERVAK.BIZ
Domain ID: D2931360-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Domain Status: ok
Registrant ID: GODA-0912534
Registrant Name: Miha Dedicov
Registrant Organization: n/a
Registrant Address1: Krizovna st, 12a
Registrant City: Kharkiv
Registrant State/Province: Not Applicable
Registrant Postal Code: 100658
Registrant Country: United Kingdom
Registrant Country Code: UK
Registrant Phone Number: +7.06562458756

are you sure your name is paul?

why do you hide all contact information if your so respected?

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For the record - this is my administrator for my server.

bump for loosing hits

+44 is uk country telephone code and that is also not a uk postal address

+7 is russia and the name looks russian

So who cares who's name the domain is in. I have been good friends with Paul for over 2 years, we have done business back and forth many many times, as well as spoken with him on the phone. I can tell you, that for business that's being carried out over the web, I know him very, very well.

His server admin is Miha Dedicov, and that's a fact.

Another thing, if you can't simply tell by his board personality that he's 100% UK, then something's wrong, LOL.

Don't attack people's whois information, let him work it out. Paul is as honest as they come.

:2 cents:

Fusion - you really are clutching at straws.

That address / name that has been listed is for a guy called Miha who is my admin for my server. For the record also - very helpful and professional.


Me -

I live in the UK ( not Russia ) and have done all my life. I am not hiding anything nor do I need to.

Thank you.

i have not said he is russian, i just said the contact information is false.

And his means .. ?

Nothing.

Let Paul and Nathan work on it. I have my own ideas as to exactly the problem, but I can't explain it well enough to be credible.
I've seen it in the past, and I have my own solutions, BTW, I use the same delivery script on one of my traffic servers.

I will say, leave him alone and let him figure it out. I trust Paul enough that I let him have access to some of my scripts.

You're not letting him work on it. :winkwink:

Contact information is not false. Miha is my administrator as already mentioned. Statspage.net points to the following on the standard whois check -

Registrant:
TBA

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: STATSPAGE.NET

Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM
NS4.ALEXUSMEDIA.COM

The reason for this is because my many clients / resellers etc. demand an unbranded contact so the traffic delivery does not trace back to us which is totally understandable and which I welcome as discretion is essential in this business.

This name along with our other projects will be set-up to a proxy GoDaddy registration in the near future just to clear this matter up.

Thank you.

k

Hi,

reason for the difference found.

The problem is the way ETS (the script that sexus and many other brokers use) sends traffic and the way PG tracks referrers.

PG Is by default setup in a way to track as many referrers as possible even for people that use frames.

ETS sends traffic via Frames out of a reason I do not understand, this causes the hahahahahahahahahaha code to break on at least IE as soon as it reaches referrer collection, therefor not counting most of this hits.

We HAVE an option in our create/edit counter form to say if the page has frames or to disable referrer collection, but because of a bug this actually does not change the counter code like it should. I am fixing that right now so in 15 minutes or so that should work. This though does NOT mean that you have to set the counter that gets ETS traffic to "The Pages have Frames". In contrary, you have to set it to "The Pages have no Frames" because they are not LOCAL frames, they are external frames which will kill the stats.

We will make sure that new counters get defaulted to no frames, which will make it all work on ALL sites, just that referrers are not collected well for Framed Sites, in those cases you can edit the code.

The change in the html code of PornGraph is TINY though. If you are having problems with most of your traffic not registering at all, then just do this small change in the code, it should help:

-- EDIT --
Ahhhh crappy banned words.
-- EDIT --
Search for: ".referrer". You will see a "top." infront of the document, just remove that.

Thats it.

We are very sorry that we partly caused all this mess, but are happy that we have resolved everything.

Thanks to sexus for msg'ing me so quickly to figure out the exact problem.

Nathan, thank you for your reply and kind words towards the end of your findings.

Fusion - are you going to apologise for your wrongful exposure of `cheaters` as in us ?

Perhaps the lesson to be learnt here is people pointing the finger without having the full facts hence my initial comments.

Adult Site Traffic - thank you for your support and kind words, it really is a pleasure working with people in this industry who are as professional as you. :thumbsup

Paul.

Hey arm&hammer, add referer and referrer to your spelling thread please :)

I guess this is the reason why forums are needed as it does bring out the honest and the bad traders and shit gets sorted out.

sorry it come to this and i am very sorry i called you a cheater.

thanks nathan for your effort in looking into the matter

I just LOVE happy endings! :)


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