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Old 12-05-2003, 06:21 PM   #1
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Cocaine and Ecstasy Cause DNA Mutation-Italy Study

You always have to take studies with a grain of salt, but interesting nonetheless.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...cocaine_dna_dc

Cocaine and Ecstasy Cause DNA Mutation-Italy Study

ROME (Reuters) - Cocaine and ecstasy not only cause addiction and raise the risk of cancer but also provoke genetic mutations, Italian scientists said Friday.

"Cocaine and ecstasy have proved to be more dangerous than we had imagined," said Giorgio Bronzetti, chief scientist at the National Center for Research's (CNR) biotechnology department.

"These drugs, on top of their toxicological effects, attack DNA provoking mutations and altering the hereditary material. This is very worrying for the effects it could have on future generations," he said.

The use of ecstasy, a drug popular at all-night dance parties, increased by 70 percent between 1995 and 2000 according to a United Nations (news - web sites) report published in September.

Ecstasy and amphetamines have overtaken cocaine and heroin as the fastest growing global narcotics menace, the study said.

The CNR report, which took more than three years to complete, said animal tests had shown a direct relationship between ecstasy and cocaine intake and the effects on DNA.

"In other words, the longer the time frame of drug consumption, the greater the damage to DNA," Bronzetti said.
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Long term drug use of any kind isn't likely to lead you to better health
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Old 12-05-2003, 06:27 PM   #5
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Long term drug use of any kind isn't likely to lead you to better health
Indeed.

But genetic mutation is scary shit...
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cant wait to see how the raver baby generation turns out.
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cant wait to see how the raver baby generation turns out.
thats a scarey thought
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Old 12-05-2003, 06:29 PM   #8
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Hmmm.... Evolution.

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well, what kind of mutations are we talking about? 4 boobs? 2 penises? Let's talk specifics so I can decide what I can deal with and what I can't.
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Even if the study is proved to absolutely true, I doubt it will have any real affect on drug use, maybe a 1% decrease. Then again maybe it will cause a decrease, dumb kids thinking they will be super heroes if they keep taking the stuff.
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being a teenage mutant ninja turtle is cool
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Even if the study is proved to absolutely true, I doubt it will have any real affect on drug use, maybe a 1% decrease. Then again maybe it will cause a decrease, dumb kids thinking they will be super heroes if they keep taking the stuff.
So many studies come out about everything...they really have no short term effect on drug usage, consumtion, etc. They can provoke change in the long term on occasion, but the damage is already done by then.
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my wife and i are former ravers

our baby is pretty cute
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also fwiw a press release claiming that shit is pretty much worthless. This study should not be taken seriously until it's published in a peer reviewed reputable journal.
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also fwiw a press release claiming that shit is pretty much worthless. This study should not be taken seriously until it's published in a peer reviewed reputable journal.
I agree. That's why I said it shouldn't be taken too seriously, but it's always interesting to see what info they're coming up with.
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good fucking thing i was strong enough to tell everyone who ever offered me those drugs to fuck off.

i prefer to smoke the gonja.
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I have tons of friends who did x and have babies, they are fine.
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i alwyase thought i was just trippin when i saw the green lepracons.. now i know it's dna mutation!
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my wife and i are former ravers

our baby is pretty cute
I take it you haven't witnessed the mutation yet?
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isn't italy the laughing stock of the medical science community with their "cure for the common cold" a few years ago?
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I would change 'use' to 'abuse', but
some people insist that everything is bad,
in which case I usually point out that they aren't any more immortal than me...conversation usually ends there.
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ecstasy does nothing for me. plus it's ridiculous spending 15-25 dollars on one fucking pill.

I'll never do it again unless it's free and i'm bored.

Liquor and Ganja are stil the two best things to get your buzz on....Coke is good but it fucks your erectile functions up.
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ecstasy does nothing for me. plus it's ridiculous spending 15-25 dollars on one fucking pill.

I'll never do it again unless it's free and i'm bored.

Liquor and Ganja are stil the two best things to get your buzz on....Coke is good but it fucks your erectile functions up.
How many times have you tried it?
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How many times have you tried it?
I tried it four times and maybe once it worked for like ten minutes. The rest of the time I'm sober and I just grind my teeth all night....

Maybe my body just isn't wired for it
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in the 60's and even 70's, studies came out from reputable university med centers "proving" that lsd and marajuana caused dna changes. guess what - it was total bullshit.

i'm not saying these drugs are good for you, but genetic mutation just ain't that easy to cause. it ain't about toxicology at all.
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in the 60's and even 70's, studies came out from reputable university med centers "proving" that lsd and marajuana caused dna changes. guess what - it was total bullshit.

i'm not saying these drugs are good for you, but genetic mutation just ain't that easy to cause. it ain't about toxicology at all.
actually a lot of things can be a mutagen.. sunlight anyone? It's pretty much meaningless. Makes for a nice news story though. People always interested in sex and drugs
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i suppose this scared at least one kid into not using. so i guess the article was worth it
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extacy fucks your brain. That can be proven. Compare the cat scan of a normal brain and one of someone that does a ton of x. it aint pretty.
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ecstasy does nothing for me. plus it's ridiculous spending 15-25 dollars on one fucking pill.

I'll never do it again unless it's free and i'm bored.

Liquor and Ganja are stil the two best things to get your buzz on....Coke is good but it fucks your erectile functions up.
Shit, thats almost ten times more than it costs in my city!
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Oh shit. That's why I've got a disfunctional penis now.
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normal brain activity:



after ecstacy:





this is why ravers are so annoying
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extacy fucks your brain. That can be proven. Compare the cat scan of a normal brain and one of someone that does a ton of x. it aint pretty.
you mean PET scan.
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I know lots of people who used xtasy though and have had babies who are perfectly normal. I think if someone used it a few times they shouldnt worry about having mutated children. Drug use during the second and third month can cause probs but it would have to be excessive. It was one drug given to preg woman in the 70's thalidomide (for morning sickness) that caused the major deformaties (associates-pharmacy) that are no longer seen. Retin-A also should be avoided. You can have an ultrasound nowadays and have them count all the fingers and toes etc. I know so many people who freaked out over that and every baby turned out 100% normal. My friend almost aborted her baby cuz she was worried about that shit (she did x once while preg b4 she knew) and thank god she didnt cuz it is sooo adorable. Just don't do it if you dont want to worry about it.
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this is why ravers are so annoying
I wish there was more research like this for various fetishes: BDSM guys, teen-lover, etc.
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it's a good thing i've already had 2 kids before i tried any of that shit heh
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