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  • jact
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    • Sep 2002
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    #1

    Would you tell someone with cancer to "die"...

    and expect them to take it as a joke?
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  • XxXotic
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    • Jun 2002
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    #2
    absolutely not
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    • Weppel
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      • Aug 2003
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      #3
      Hell no

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      • Sly_RJ
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        • Feb 2002
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        #4
        Depends on who it was and how well they knew me. If they knew my sense of humor, then yes. If not, no.
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        • freeadultcontent
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          • Oct 2002
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          #5
          Yes you can.

          Or better yet say "allow me to help you" and hand them a cigg.

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          • Furious_Female
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            No. Not unless they had a morbid sense of humor and that was the norm. But in any event, it's wrong to tell anyone to die. Karma...
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            • InsaneMidget
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              • RedShoe
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                • Feb 2001
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                #8
                I gave a guy with colon cancer $20.00 and told him that "I hope this money keeps your asshole from rotting off"

                He had a great laugh.

                He died 2 weeks later.

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                • freeadultcontent
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                  • Oct 2002
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                  #9
                  Lighten up, most people with illnesses and or dissabilities honestly appreciate it when you can make fun of it. They get very sick of people walking on eggshells and pretending the elephant in the room is invisable.

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                  • Sly_RJ
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                    • Feb 2002
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by freeadultcontent
                    Lighten up, most people with illnesses and or dissabilities honestly appreciate it when you can make fun of it. They get very sick of people walking on eggshells and pretending the elephant in the room is invisable.
                    When a friend has the remote I'll casually mention "hey, flip to Discovery." "Get off your lazy ass and do it yourself!"

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                    • freeadultcontent
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                      • Oct 2002
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sly_RJ

                      When a friend has the remote I'll casually mention "hey, flip to Discovery." "Get off your lazy ass and do it yourself!"

                      Personal favorite, is "you got legs, not my fault they dont work"

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                      • pink_in_the_middle
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jact
                        and expect them to take it as a joke?
                        No. Why do you ask?
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                        • Space Puppy
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                          • Nov 2003
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                          Depends on who it was and how well they knew me. If they knew my sense of humor, then yes. If not, no.

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                          • digifan
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                            • Oct 2002
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                            #14
                            What a question, it is not fun at all. I am taking care of my mom having brain tumor for the second year and she is with me so I became a home worker and freelancer.

                            The medical community gave up on her last October, a year ago after her second surgery, that time she had a 7 cm tumor. They did not even want to operate her... I said fuck and sold my car and other stuff and found the best specialists and a cllinic for her.

                            She got paralysed, did not comprehend at all, got blind for her right eye and noone thought whe is worth the chemo, radiation and more surgeries or my caring. Then again our family has one terrible history with cancer and at least she does not have serious physical pain so why give up on her?

                            Others told me last year that I'd put her in a nursery.. what good is that for? She raised me up and she does not deserve it.

                            I was and am spending hours with her every day, giving her full body massages and teaching her walk again and she is improving slowly. I feel her pain when she wants to do something but not able any more but I can make her laugh. She is communicating again, tries to come and go inside and be proud of her process. Now she demands a new lipstick and other cosmetics altough she has no hair at all taking the expensive chemo med. for the 13th month. Can she be house bond but she can enjoy her life still.

                            And yes, if she wants a cig, she gets it. It won't kill her.
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                            • Space Puppy
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                              • Nov 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by digifan
                              And yes, if she wants a cig, she gets it. It won't kill her.

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                              • chemicaleyes
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Furious_Female
                                No. Not unless they had a morbid sense of humor and that was the norm. But in any event, it's wrong to tell anyone to die. Karma...
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                                • digifan
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                                  • Oct 2002
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Space Puppy


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                                  • Ic3m4nZ
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                                    #18
                                    yes

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                                    • MSB
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                                      #19
                                      Nope unless i know the person


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                                      • buddyjuf

                                        #20
                                        very interesting thread! truly!
                                        I dont think I could do it
                                        I would rather appear the same as all of them then risk a dying man to hate me for the rest of his days

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                                        • digifan
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                                          • Oct 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Interesting oh yes.. and where is Jact?
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                                          • Furious_Male
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                                            • Oct 2003
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                                            #22
                                            "die" may not be a good choice of a word joking or not but cancer patients arent as sensitive as some may think.

                                            A little funny story... My dad is fighting Stage 3 NSC Lung Cancer. He was outside messing around in the garage when the neighboor across the street came over and the first words out of his mouth in a quiet voice where "Do you think your going to make it"? My dad shrugged his shoulders and said "I sure as hell hope so. Im not giving up yet". My neighboor turned beet red. He was refering to "making it" to a suprise bday party he had planned for his wife. He was so embarassed he felt like crawling in a hole. My dad still laughs his ass off about it.

                                            You need to have some humor when fighting the disease. Ive been through this with family on more then one occassion. We do try to avoid using the word die but it all depends on the individual I suppose.
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                                            • digifan
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                                              #23
                                              Your dad is a great person.
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                                              • Candice
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                                                • Oct 2003
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by jact
                                                and expect them to take it as a joke?

                                                No way, my grandfather is dying of lung cancer right now, that's beyond wrong.
                                                You judge me for being different, I laugh because you are all the same!

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                                                • arial
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                                                  • Jul 2002
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                                                  #25
                                                  Unless they were looking forward to it, otherwise nope.

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                                                  • SureFire
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                                                    • Jan 2003
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                                                    #26
                                                    No.

                                                    I will talk about dieing but will never wish anyone to die.

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                                                    • GonePhishing
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                                                      • Oct 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      digifan,

                                                      Your mom is a very lucky lady... Not to have her health issues... But to have a child like you. Thank you!
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                                                      • Tala
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                                                        • Dec 2002
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                                                        #28
                                                        To be very honest and blunt with you, it depends ont he context and the person making the comment.

                                                        There are only two people in my blood family (maternal side) who didn't die of cancer. My great grandmother had a stroke at the age of 93, and my mother isn't dead...yet. I'm hoping she gets lead poisoning or something nasty like that.

                                                        I have cancer and have had three different types in my 28 year life span. If I didn't keep a sense of humor, I'd go insane. I've made jokes about my dying from the disease, I've had friends make jokes about it, and I'm okay with it.

                                                        However, if the joke is in poor taste or if the person making the joke was a complete ass, then I would be offended.

                                                        Just like everything else in life, it's all about the way the comment is perceived. If you take it as a joke, it's a joke. If you don't, it isn't.

                                                        Digifan, I've said it before and I'll say it again: you rock.

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                                                        • prostock
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                                                          • Jun 2002
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                                                          #29
                                                          Tala
                                                          I hear you man , at the age of 31 i had two heart acts ,
                                                          in jan this year they found i have lung cancer , tho not spreading threw me yet and it plays hell to your mind when will it and how bad will it be . 5 months ago they told me my liver is failing and now only getting worse . With it the way it is i have to be very care full for the fact most meds can kill me . I know have a centrol never problem and live in great pain . When i wake up i cant walk and the only thing that helps the pain is to drink the nite before tho i am not to do that .
                                                          I joke on it all the time tho most my friends get very mad at me , it has became very hard on my wife and we just had our son Nov 1st , before dying didnt bother me that is life , now it does and only for one reason , it bothers me to think that the rate i am going i may not get to see my son ever do the things a father hopes and cant wait to see him do . So now i have made alot of changes in my life , I live every day for him and try to spend all the exter time i can with him . I work harder then ever for him and his mother so that when i am gone they will not have to worry .

                                                          It is good to be able to joke on it as TALA said if not you will go nutts , i know it sounds funny tho it is true , the last week for me has been more then hard i have been in a deep deprestion all week over , being very scaird what would happen to my family when i am gone .
                                                          I am not one to go threw transplaints and all the chemo and al that shit , I seen to many deal with more pain , so i have came to terms with myself that i will deal with the pain and live with it all i can .
                                                          My friends feel bad and sad all the time , and make me feel worse . People have to understand when a person knows he is dying it is already hard on him , and reminding him and telling you are sorry he is so sick or this and that just makes him remember that he has people depending on him and makes him worry more and can ( as in my case ) make that person worse .
                                                          Tho we should never tell people to dye that just isnt cool , but i have had a person say fuck off and die and i tell them not a prob i am dying now , maybe i will be fucking the nite it happens , and they just look at me like i am a nutt .
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                                                          • digifan
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                                                            • Oct 2002
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GonePhishing
                                                            digifan,

                                                            Your mom is a very lucky lady... Not to have her health issues... But to have a child like you. Thank you!
                                                            Wow, thanks...

                                                            you know I am pretty stubborn and decided not to let her go.. I think love can make wonders. I am a girl but I know guys who also do their best and take care of their relatives having cancer.. mostly of their mom of course.
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                                                            • LadyMischief
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                                                              #31
                                                              It's absolutely amazing the tenacity and resiliancy of the human spirit. Hats off to those of you who have to deal with terminal or serious illnesses either in yourself or others You are a testament to the strength of the human spirit.

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                                                              • digifan
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                                                                • Oct 2002
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Tala
                                                                To be very honest and blunt with you, it depends ont he context and the person making the comment.

                                                                There are only two people in my blood family (maternal side) who didn't die of cancer. My great grandmother had a stroke at the age of 93, and my mother isn't dead...yet. I'm hoping she gets lead poisoning or something nasty like that.

                                                                I have cancer and have had three different types in my 28 year life span. If I didn't keep a sense of humor, I'd go insane. I've made jokes about my dying from the disease, I've had friends make jokes about it, and I'm okay with it.

                                                                However, if the joke is in poor taste or if the person making the joke was a complete ass, then I would be offended.

                                                                Just like everything else in life, it's all about the way the comment is perceived. If you take it as a joke, it's a joke. If you don't, it isn't.

                                                                Digifan, I've said it before and I'll say it again: you rock.
                                                                Tala hon,

                                                                I do have respect for you.. humor can make life easier... I don't think I rock. I may be an egoist who cannot imagine another loss, and I also lost everyone to cancer except great grandma who had a stroke.
                                                                And I myself had a rhenal tumor years ago and refused surgery.. my dad died of rhenal cancer. I was sitting down every day for half an hour and imagined the enemy and was talking to it, fighhting it for a year or so and the process stopped. It is still there and can be seen but it became much smaller and I have no problems with it. I became a vegetarian, I was taking Herbalife products and killed the tumor. What a stubborn Taurine I am lol, please laugh with me. Imagination is a powerful tool.

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                                                                • JFPdude
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                                                                  • Jan 2002
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  As many people don't know why I moved to North Carolina I will say this ... I am in pre inheritance stages the land and houses in my pictures of where I live will someday be mine.

                                                                  The person whom I am inheriting all this land and homes from is very sick. I visited this person in the hospital the other day and looked at the machines that kept him breathing.

                                                                  He looked at me and asked how good with computers I was ... I asked back "why would you like me to add more ram and speed this process up?"

                                                                  He laughed. Had I said anything else he would have known it wasn't from me and that I was candy coating the situation.

                                                                  As it has been said. It's all in how the person percieves it.

                                                                  When your on your death bed the best thing someone can do for you is come in and make you laugh.


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                                                                  • TurboAngel
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                                                                    • Jun 2003
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Well my gram was in the hospital for a long time, I had to tell her it was ok to die and go on and be with her mom and the rest of the family that had passed. It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life! The next day she passed, everyone turned on me and told me I killed her. How fucked up is that? In the end I was glad she was in so much pain and to just lie in a bed hooked up to things just isn't living.


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                                                                    • Tala
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                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                      • 23368

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TurboAngel
                                                                      Well my gram was in the hospital for a long time, I had to tell her it was ok to die and go on and be with her mom and the rest of the family that had passed. It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life! The next day she passed, everyone turned on me and told me I killed her. How fucked up is that? In the end I was glad she was in so much pain and to just lie in a bed hooked up to things just isn't living.


                                                                      Ouch. That was a reality check that I really wasn't prepared for. I had no idea that someone else's family could be so cruel.

                                                                      When my grandmother was dying of cancer, she made damn sure that everyone knew where they stood with her. I was her favorite, and she made it clear that I was the one she trusted. I helped her to get her things in order and had her attorney come to the house at her request to finalize her will etc.

                                                                      I had to leave 10 days before her death. My exhusband had to go back to his duty station, and we were driving across country with a 2 year old son. After I left, she really just gave up. Sadly, so did the rest of the family. They simply put her in the hospital and left her to die. Alone.

                                                                      Then they blamed me for killing her by leaving. I have never forgiven that and I will never forgive that. When she died, my family died. The rest of them can go fuck themselves and wallow in their own vile redneck filth.

                                                                      /rant

                                                                      I'm sorry that you ever had to go through that sort of agony. It was wrong and very hurtful. I hope no one else has to go through it; I wish no one ever had to go through it at all, and honestly thought that only my family was that callous and cruel.

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                                                                      • TurboAngel
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                                                                        • Jun 2003
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Thanks, I was the favorite also but only with my gram's they both died.

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                                                                        • Tala
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                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                          • 23368

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by TurboAngel
                                                                          Thanks, I was the favorite also but only with my gram's they both died.


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