Please help...I just don't understand this.. - GoFuckYourself.com

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:17 AM

At a conversion ratio of 1:1500 with a ctr of 1% (submitting galleries)...this means I need to have 150,000 page views in order to make one sale.

150,000 page views = 60gb of bandwidth (1/3 of my monthly bandwidth)...so...roughly $25 in bandwidth per sale...

plus...

To get listed at the big sites...I have to pay for the privlege of giving them content to show thier surfers...

plus...

I must have a squeaky clean gallery with unbeleivably good content that I had to pay a fortune to get...

plus...

I can't do anything to entice their surfers to actually click on my sponsor links, in order to generate sales so I may make enough money to pay for the privlege of giving them free content for their surfers?

What is wrong with this picture?

NaughtyJenn · 12-01-2003, 09:20 AM

i dont do other sites so i cant really comment but if i was you i would find something then with a better ratio, or revshare so ur hard earned signup atleast gives u $ over a period of time

jimmyf · 12-01-2003, 09:21 AM

Eve · 12-01-2003, 09:22 AM

Stop posting to the hun.

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf

I don't really know what this means, but I'd be happy to hear your input if you have something to say.

jimmyf · 12-01-2003, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Eve
Stop posting to the hun.

He/She summed it up for most TGP's

And I might add they will send you 1k hits

johnny_ricebone · 12-01-2003, 09:25 AM

Find a new industry to work in.

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:27 AM

It simply does not make sense. How are ANY of you guys making money?

jimmyf · 12-01-2003, 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by B_Maverick

I don't really know what this means, but I'd be happy to hear your input if you have something to say.

I have not submitted 2 a TGP in over 3 years, that tell you any thing

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by jimmyf

I have not submitted 2 a TGP in over 3 years, that tell you any thing

I just don't get it though...there cannot be thousands of fools going into debt every month building and submitting galleries. They MUST be making money doing it, or the industry would simply collapse because there would be no gallery submitters.

jimmyf · 12-01-2003, 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by B_Maverick

I just don't get it though...there cannot be thousands of fools going into debt every month building and submitting galleries. They MUST be making money doing it, or the industry would simply collapse because there would be no gallery submitters.

the only TGP I made *good* money on was thehun and jjj.

And you better know what you are doing if thehun approves one of your galleries, B/W will eat your lunch. I know happened to me once. On his Thumbs Up though

I don't know if jjj's is still good or not

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:46 AM

I'm really starting to feel that the honest guy who is trying to make a decent living has no place in this industry.

I have never cheated...redirected...or any of that shit. I make nice galleries and follow the rules.

Yet...it seems like the rules are created to stop cheaters who seem to slip through the cracks anyhow.

The cheaters make sales by sending overwhelming traffic to sponsors...leaving no room for the honest guy to make a buck.

fun2cboys · 12-01-2003, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by B_Maverick
I'm really starting to feel that the honest guy who is trying to make a decent living has no place in this industry.

CLICK HERE DUDE MAYBE THIS IS MORE YOUR SPEED

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 09:57 AM

Thanks...been there...done that...spent 5 cents a click to make 3 cents a click.

Tofu · 12-01-2003, 09:59 AM

A little birdie told me; this business founded by scammers and cheaters. I understand your rant, but you have to re-evaluate your buisness. Gallery building is a trial and error process, and you have to be willing to spend money as well.....I have much to say on this topic, but I'll save it for ICQ....

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com
A little birdie told me; this business founded by scammers and cheaters. I understand your rant, but you have to re-evaluate your buisness. Gallery building is a trial and error process, and you have to be willing to spend money as well.....I have much to say on this topic, but I'll save it for ICQ....

I think you are right, tofu...but I refuse to be a cheater and scammer.

So I will issue a challenge to whomever has the integrity to take me up on it. Show me the ropes....how to make money in this business with honesty and integrity...and I will share my profits. I work long hours and want to get something back for my work. Help me and you will be rewarded.

fun2cboys · 12-01-2003, 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by B_Maverick
Thanks...been there...done that...spent 5 cents a click to make 3 cents a click.

Well I have never thought that TGP's were a good way to make money......not for me anyway.....

I have always been a firm believer in the fact that a surfer will not pay for porn if they can find it for free..... I think that the surfers that actually pay for porn are those that are too lazy to look for it for free......

If you wanna really try something else here is another program that I had looked into....They have some good tips if nuthin else

http://www.learningavs.com/

wyldblyss · 12-01-2003, 10:13 AM

Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?

No...but okay...

I will offer my body to any young, beautiful female webmistresses in exchange for free advice. Any takers?

Don't worry...I am incredibly handsome.

brizzad · 12-01-2003, 10:16 AM

here's a tip, try doing some SEO on your galleries, once they get listed in some good TGPs, google will pick them up, and if you played your cards right, they'll get daily SE hits. might not be that much, but if you submit enough galleries daily, it'll all add up

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by brizzad
here's a tip, try doing some SEO on your galleries, once they get listed in some good TGPs, google will pick them up, and if you played your cards right, they'll get daily SE hits. might not be that much, but if you submit enough galleries daily, it'll all add up

I think I am already doing that...I get a lot of SE hits...but it doesn't seem like enough to matter.

SE's confuse the shit out of me anyhow. It seems like you need a Phd in cloaking to make SE's work for you.

aaron · 12-01-2003, 10:18 AM

ive found that you really have to keep trying different things and see what works for you

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by aaron
ive found that you really have to keep trying different things and see what works for you

I know...I just get really friggin frustrated when things don't work like I want them to. I've been struggling a long time and just can't seem to figure this game out. Every time I think I have the answers, I find out I am wrong.

This morning for example, I found out that to submit and get listed with enough galleries to make the money I want...I will spend twice as much in bandwidth as I would actually make in sales.

wyldblyss · 12-01-2003, 10:22 AM

I sent you an ICQ message

aaron · 12-01-2003, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by B_Maverick

I know...I just get really friggin frustrated when things don't work like I want them to. I've been struggling a long time and just can't seem to figure this game out. Every time I think I have the answers, I find out I am wrong.

This morning for example, I found out that to submit and get listed with enough galleries to make the money I want...I will spend twice as much in bandwidth as I would actually make in sales.

i hear you man. keep trying. i am.

Hue G. Pness · 12-01-2003, 10:33 AM

the gravy train already left. too late.

it went that way ------- >

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Hue G. Pness
the gravy train already left. too late.

it went that way ------- >

Not looking for the gravy train. Just looking to make a profit from a lot of hard work.

B_Maverick · 12-01-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by wyldblyss
Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?
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No...but okay...

I will offer my body to any young, beautiful female webmistresses in exchange for free advice. Any takers?

Don't worry...I am incredibly handsome.
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What...no takers?

12-01-2003, 09:17 AM	#1
B_Maverick Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 447	Please help...I just don't understand this.. At a conversion ratio of 1:1500 with a ctr of 1% (submitting galleries)...this means I need to have 150,000 page views in order to make one sale. 150,000 page views = 60gb of bandwidth (1/3 of my monthly bandwidth)...so...roughly $25 in bandwidth per sale... plus... To get listed at the big sites...I have to pay for the privlege of giving them content to show thier surfers... plus... I must have a squeaky clean gallery with unbeleivably good content that I had to pay a fortune to get... plus... I can't do anything to entice their surfers to actually click on my sponsor links, in order to generate sales so I may make enough money to pay for the privlege of giving them free content for their surfers? What is wrong with this picture? __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

12-01-2003, 09:21 AM	#3
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12-01-2003, 09:27 AM	#8
B_Maverick Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 447	It simply does not make sense. How are ANY of you guys making money? __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

12-01-2003, 09:46 AM	#12
B_Maverick Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 447	I'm really starting to feel that the honest guy who is trying to make a decent living has no place in this industry. I have never cheated...redirected...or any of that shit. I make nice galleries and follow the rules. Yet...it seems like the rules are created to stop cheaters who seem to slip through the cracks anyhow. The cheaters make sales by sending overwhelming traffic to sponsors...leaving no room for the honest guy to make a buck. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

12-01-2003, 09:57 AM	#14
B_Maverick Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 447	Thanks...been there...done that...spent 5 cents a click to make 3 cents a click. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com

12-01-2003, 09:20 AM	#2
NaughtyJenn Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 7,355	i dont do other sites so i cant really comment but if i was you i would find something then with a better ratio, or revshare so ur hard earned signup atleast gives u $ over a period of time

12-01-2003, 09:22 AM	#4
Eve Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 805	Stop posting to the hun.

12-01-2003, 09:25 AM	#7
johnny_ricebone Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MN Posts: 83	Find a new industry to work in.

12-01-2003, 09:59 AM	#15
Tofu The Video Specialist Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 5,615	A little birdie told me; this business founded by scammers and cheaters. I understand your rant, but you have to re-evaluate your buisness. Gallery building is a trial and error process, and you have to be willing to spend money as well.....I have much to say on this topic, but I'll save it for ICQ.... __________________ tofu916 video services - tofu916.com twitter: tofu916 \| skype: tofu916 \| tel: 916-672-TOFU \| e: tofu # tofu916.com

12-01-2003, 10:13 AM	#18
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free?

12-01-2003, 10:16 AM	#20
brizzad holla Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KFC Posts: 11,769	here's a tip, try doing some SEO on your galleries, once they get listed in some good TGPs, google will pick them up, and if you played your cards right, they'll get daily SE hits. might not be that much, but if you submit enough galleries daily, it'll all add up

12-01-2003, 10:18 AM	#22
aaron Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 4,452	ive found that you really have to keep trying different things and see what works for you

12-01-2003, 10:22 AM	#24
wyldblyss Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Buck Starts Here Posts: 5,779	I sent you an ICQ message

12-01-2003, 10:33 AM	#26
Hue G. Pness Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Variable Posts: 1,237	the gravy train already left. too late. it went that way ------- > __________________ GFY Voice of Reason

12-01-2003, 11:22 AM	#28
B_Maverick Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 447	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by wyldblyss Have you considered sleeping with people to get things for free? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No...but okay... I will offer my body to any young, beautiful female webmistresses in exchange for free advice. Any takers? Don't worry...I am incredibly handsome. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What...no takers? __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com